Guest Adriano1 Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Well, I was joking too... but I didn't recognize your clever jape. So yes, I bow to your subtlety :) :banana: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Yeah, it's pretty hard to argue with choosing Debian. In the Linux world it's a bit like the old hardware line (no-one ever got fired for buying IBM)... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yep its a pretty easy choice.... but largely as dragonmage points out because it is so nation agnostic and also because it doesn't have proprietry tools so it is interoperable... and also because its multi-arch and they probably have Sun/AIX/SGI too etc. Probably 90% of the PC's will be running OO and Evolution (or perhaps kmail) and not much else so Debian makes a nice stable base and if they add these parts from unstable (if they need) then they have a nice minimal system .... Buying Suse puts you in Novells pocket for support which isn't such a bad thing but its important when making the opensource move (IMHO) to make sure the support is open too. Eitherway, linux is linux... Since its MUB good reasons not to choose Mandriva are 1) its commercial 2) its specialisms aren't much use for a mass configured PC... mainly they will need remote support and tools not drakewizards (or YAST etc) on the users desktop... 3) 90% of the packages aren't needed... so paying is a bit of a waste... Gentoo is perhaps out for desktops .. no one ways to emerge --world on 10,000 PC's if they need a security update but more importantly noone needs agressive USE flags... Good news.... Lots of employees might be impressed and want their own system at home too. This is a good potential market for Mandrake.... as raw netinstall debian is probably not 1st distro friendly.... (although ubuntu might be better with debian....??) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlc Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Another way to go would be to use something like CentOS, that has a 5 year life cycle and with 4.0 released, might be a better fit for a lot of hardware than an older Debian release. With 10k+ desktops, kickstart would also be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FX Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Ubuntu also has kickstart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlc Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Yes, but it doesn't have a 5 year life cycle like CentOS or regular Debian, after all this is a buisness, not the home user :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamw Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 gowator: actually, MDV does a lot of work on large-scale configuration tools, you just don't get to hear about it so much since most MDV discussion is focussed on single desktops or small groups. This kind of stuff is important when running big clusters, which is an area MDV's been getting into lately. There's parallel urpmi and drakpark for instance, which most people have never heard of. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 gowator: actually, MDV does a lot of work on large-scale configuration tools, you just don't get to hear about it so much since most MDV discussion is focussed on single desktops or small groups. This kind of stuff is important when running big clusters, which is an area MDV's been getting into lately. There's parallel urpmi and drakpark for instance, which most people have never heard of. :) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> More great marketing? Develope great tools and don't tell anyone? Nope seriously cool but like you said its hard to fault a Deb stable choice.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarian Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 More great marketing?Develope great tools and don't tell anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iphitus Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 (edited) They wont go the current debian stable - woody, they'll go sarge which is currently labelled testing. from what i've heard, it's going to become stable soon. i think it's been frozen recently. Edited April 20, 2005 by iphitus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamw Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 (edited) solarian / gowator: well, we tell the people who would actually use them (large scale sysadmins), but of course they have to ask first...ah, marketing. :) Edited April 20, 2005 by adamw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarian Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 (edited) You see, the problem and my frustration now is that a few days ago I was inquired by one sysadmin if Linux can do symultaneous updates on a large network, what would be the right distribution that is easely remotely maintained and managed. I answered the best I could, but everything would have been a lot easier if I had this information you mention. Maybe even profitable for Mandrakesoft. I mentioned the MDK corporate server edition to him, but I couldn't say anything more than just some main stats. After our talk he said he'll consider Fedora // Red Hat corporate. Mandrake could really notice its' community more, interact with it and let the information flow from mouth to mouth. I think that would bring more clients than hopes on some sysadmins sending emails. Edited April 20, 2005 by solarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlc Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 They wont go the current debian stable - woody, they'll go sarge which is currently labelled testing. from what i've heard, it's going to become stable soon. i think it's been frozen recently. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think its been frozen for a couple years :lol: j/k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulSe Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 They're also going to be doing there own development on Debian - in fact, it sounds like the final product will be almost like a distro in itself, based on Debian... if I understand the press releases correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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