Guest Opatrick Posted January 22, 2005 Report Share Posted January 22, 2005 Salut, Je suis nouveau et si je viens, c'est que j'ai un petit problème dans ma distribution ;) Depuis que je suis passé de 9.1 à 10.0 RC2 sur mon desktop nunux, je n'ai plus accès à mon ordi portable w98 alors qu'internet c'est bon. J'ai la freebox qui fait router entre les deux PC, et qui distribue bien le Web et la messagerie. Au démarrage de mon nunux, j'ai une erreur Et0 : activation de l'interface impossible (vous savez, dans la liste des services et porcess avant que n'arrive l'écran de KDE) Suite à un post ici, j'ai regardé /etc/modprob.conf et j'ai ça : alias agpgart intel-agp alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394 alias eth0 tg3 alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 install scsi_hostadapter /sbin/modprobe sata_promise; /sbin/modprobe aic7xxx; /bin/true install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --first-time --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && { /sbin/modprobe snd-pcm-oss; /bin/true; } install usb-interface /sbin/modprobe usb-uhci; /sbin/modprobe ehci-hcd; /bin/true remove snd-intel8x0 { /sbin/modprobe -r snd-pcm-oss; } ; /sbin/modprobe -r --first-time --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 Est-ce que la 3ème ligne peut-être la causqe ? Est-ce que la dernière ligne est la cause de mon abscence de son (j'ai jamais réussi à l'installer sur ce micro, même avec la 9.1) Merci de m'avoir lu jusqu'au bout :) [Edit - Qchem - Changed the title to English] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theYinYeti Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 (edited) Eth0 does not want to start Hello, I'm new here, and if I come, it's because I have a small problem with my distribution Since I went from 9.1 to 10.0RC2 on my nunux desktop, I can't get access to my w98 laptop comp., whereas internet works nice. I have a freebox, that acts as a router between the two PC, and that relays web and mail correctly. When my nunux starts, I have an error with Eth0: impossible to activate the interface (you know, in this list of services and processes, before KDE launches) After reading a post here, I had a look at /etc/modprobe.conf, and here's what I have: alias agpgart intel-agp alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394 alias eth0 tg3 alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 install scsi_hostadapter /sbin/modprobe sata_promise; /sbin/modprobe aic7xxx; /bin/true install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --first-time --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && { /sbin/modprobe snd-pcm-oss; /bin/true; } install usb-interface /sbin/modprobe usb-uhci; /sbin/modprobe ehci-hcd; /bin/true remove snd-intel8x0 { /sbin/modprobe -r snd-pcm-oss; } ; /sbin/modprobe -r --first-time --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 Can the third line be at fault? Can the missing sound be caused by the last line (I never could get sound on this PC, even with 9.1) Thanks for having read my message until the end Note: I'm a translator on these boards. Yves. Edited January 24, 2005 by theYinYeti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 hmmm de'sole' je n'avais pas deja repondu La dernier ligne est vraiment etrange.... mais si c'est moi j'essaye de insirer une <<#>> a la commencement du ligne... et redemmarais alors, la probleme avec eth0 est plus important? la premiere chose est de se determiner si la module deja existe se determine ta niveau de noyeaux avec uname -r et cherche dans /etc/modules/$uname -r/ pour le pilot tg3.ko aussi: si vous tappe lspci -v -v (dans une fenetre de root) et cherche pour ta carte dans tout l'ecriture tu peut etre trouve le nom de pilot avec google ... donc retournera d' /etc/modules/ .... et cherchera pour cet pilot ... si ce 'n'est pas tg3 remplace cette ligne dans modprobe.conf .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Opatrick Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 Thanks for your answer. I tried to comment out the last line of /etc/modprobe.conf i.e.: #remove snd-intel8x0 { /sbin/modprobe -r snd-pcm-oss; } ; /sbin/modprobe -r --first-time --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 But it still not work (both the sound and Eth0) Unfortunately, /etc/modules is not a directory but a file which contains only one line: scsi_hostadapter What's next doc? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 est qu tu a trouvee le pilot ? Mais alors, j'etais bete ... en fait c'est /lib/modules/ (je pense mais je suis au beureau avec XP maintenant) (et les resultats de uname -r) ?? donc essaye avec cette location ou cherche vers root avec find "tg3.ko" / -print en fait je me pose le question si l'pilot existe avec le noyeau 2.6? ou esc qu le pilot renommer ou remplacer avec une autre? donc utilise lspci -v -v et collier les resultats (si tu n'avais pas l'internet utilise lspci -v -v > toto.txt pour creer un fichier ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Opatrick Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 find "tg3.ko" / -print lists hundreds of files everywhere :/ /lib/modules is the right one :) # cd /lib/modules2.6.2-3mdkenterprise # dir kernel modules.ccwmap modules.description modules.inputmap modules.pcimap modules.usbmap modules.alias modules.dep modules.ieee1394map modules.isapnpmap modules.symbols # lspci -v -v ... 02:05.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5702 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 02) Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc.: Unknown device 80a9 Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66Mhz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- Latency: 64 (16000ns min), cache line size 08 Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 10 Region 0: Memory at ec800000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) Expansion ROM at efef0000 [disabled] Capabilities: [40] PCI-X non-bridge device. Command: DPERE- ERO- RBC=0 OST=0 Status: Bus=0 Dev=0 Func=0 64bit- 133MHz- SCD- USC-, DC=simple, DMMRBC=0, DMOST=0, DMCRS=0, RSCEM- Capabilities: [48] Power Management version 2 Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+) Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=1 PME- Capabilities: [50] Vital Product Data Capabilities: [58] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit+ Queue=0/3 Enable- Address: dfd3f7e7adb177fc Data: dbe1 ... I remark that the Interrup is routed to IRQ10, & I think this IRQ is a shared one. Shall I investigate which one? I appreciate your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Opatrick Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 I did lsmod and I found: lsmod Module Size Used by ipv6 266176 25 snd-seq-oss 36512 0 snd-seq-midi-event 8768 1 snd-seq-oss snd-seq 58960 4 snd-seq-oss,snd-seq-midi-event snd-pcm-oss 55748 0 snd-mixer-oss 20480 1 snd-pcm-oss snd-intel8x0 35240 0 snd-ac97-codec 63972 1 snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm 103520 2 snd-pcm-oss,snd-intel8x0 snd-timer 27748 2 snd-seq,snd-pcm snd-page-alloc 13508 2 snd-intel8x0,snd-pcm snd-mpu401-uart 8800 1 snd-intel8x0 snd-rawmidi 25984 1 snd-mpu401-uart snd-seq-device 9256 3 snd-seq-oss,snd-seq,snd-rawmidi snd 57668 12 snd-seq-oss,snd-seq-midi-event,snd-seq,snd-pcm-oss,snd-mixer-oss,snd-intel8x0,snd-ac97-codec,snd-pcm,snd-timer,snd-mpu401-uart,snd-rawmidi,snd-seq-device soundcore 10976 1 snd [b]tg3 80676 0[/b] aic7xxx 208396 0 sata_promise 15396 0 scsi_mod 121680 5 sg,sr_mod,sd_mod,aic7xxx,libata Also :/ I did dmesg and a lot of identical lines appeared: Device not ready. Make sure there is a disc in the drive. Device not ready. Make sure there is a disc in the drive. ... I may have a bigger problem there... :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 OK, 2 things... Broadcom do their own drivers, Ive downloaded them myself (used on a live CD) 2nd your on Kernel enterprise ... I think this is the problem. ...Im still an idiot ... find -name "tg3.ko" / -print anyway, the driver I made was bcmXXX If you don't need to be using enterprise my guess is this should work better with the normal kernel... In 10.0 or 10.1 they actually changed so that the normal kernel did up to 4GB RAM. If you get the choice when you boot try sel3ecting the non enterprise kernel... you can check the RAM with cat /proc/meminfo If you decide on the verson you need the kernel source to compile the driver so dload the driver and the right kernel source (if you can first) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Opatrick Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 OK, 2 things... Broadcom do their own drivers, Ive downloaded them myself (used on a live CD) Ok, I've dowloaded the right archive. 2nd your on Kernel enterprise ... I think this is the problem. Tried to boot on the normal kernel. Same almost :/ Except that now, the computer is rightly switching off itself when shuting down :) I will stay with normal kernel. Do you know how to make this choice the default one ? Now: # lsmod ... tg3 51020 1 (autoclean) ... # lspci -v -v -> give same listing as previous ... Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5702 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 02) Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc.: Unknown device 80a9 ... # uname -r 2.4.25-0.pre7.3mdk # cd /lib/modules/2.4.25-0.pre7.3mdk # dir kernel modules.description modules.ieee1394map modules.parportmap modules.pnpbiosmap modules.dep modules.generic_string modules.isapnpmap modules.pcimap modules.usbmap Again, no module for Ethernet... find -name "tg3.ko" / -print # find -name "tg3.ko" / -print find: les chemins doivent précéder l'expression Usage: find [CHEMIN] [EXPRESSION] Missed ;) anyway, the driver I made was bcmXXX If you don't need to be using enterprise my guess is this should work better with the normal kernel... In 10.0 or 10.1 they actually changed so that the normal kernel did up to 4GB RAM. If you get the choice when you boot try sel3ecting the non enterprise kernel... Choosen to stick with normal kernel unless its too old... you can check the RAM with cat /proc/meminfo Ok If you decide on the verson you need the kernel source to compile the driver so dload the driver and the right kernel source (if you can first) Compilling.... my nightmare... There is an RPM in the driver package, do you think I could use the Mandrake graphical tools to install it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 1) the driver compile is really simple, its just a make && make_install 2) If your kernel is a 2.4 kernel then this explains a lot. The .ko drivers are kernel 2.6 (in 2.4 drivers are just .o) 3) This looks like something messed up on install. I'm assuming you have >1GB RAM. The newer Mandrake kernels (certainly 10.1) have support for 4GB. I have no idea what the enterprise kernels do.... they have never corresponded to anything exact. I had them forced on me for a long time and compiles agains the kernel source never work, neither could I ever find out what patches MDK applied. I'm hoping you have broadband :D What I think you need to do is download a later kernel (definately a 2.6 one) as i think this is the source of your problems. (edit your title and put also in English then we might get more input ... ) If you can download the rpm's for the mandrake 2.6 kernel I think it might solve everything... (even without compiling) You haven't said how much upgrade vs install you have... If you can backup all your data why not do a straight 10.1 community install. (If you are in France its on plenty of magazine covers) Even if you don't install you can use the RPM's on the Cd to replace the kernel... you might even have choices on the 10.0 CD's.... We can try either... but if it were me I'd try a clean 10.1 install since the hardware is obviously new and it messed you around with the enterprise kernel? I had endless trouble with the enterprise kernel myself ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Opatrick Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Thanks for your input. I've seen that MDK is releasing the 10.2beta1. I might wait few weeks to get a 10.2RC version before installing. From now, each time I've installed a new version, I reformated all the partitions. I have lost all my software installs and preferences, so it took me a week to re-setup everything... That's why I'm worried... The MDK tech support told me it is safer to reformat everything... Do you have any experience with the "update" install ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anon Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Mandrake beta's are risky and are for the more experienced user/tester. To keep all your preferences, settings etc, format everthing EXCEPT your /home partition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 gotta agree wih anon.... no need to go with the beta version. People seem to be having more problems with 10.1 OE than CE ... strange as that is its probably down to the installer. 80% of mandrake's prob's seem to come from the installer in some releases. The acpi thing you have laready experienced now it shut's down OK ... What seems to happen is half of the config is under a 'normal' mandrake kernel and part under the 'enterprise'. In the past I have managed to hack this together in a manner that would make M. Bricolage horrified.... its not pretty but Ive copied drivers across and hacked about the modules.conf... but in the end it is never stable. If you want to reinstall let us know how everything is setup and we can help plan it... if your 'freebox' has space you can copy stuff over for backup. Also your home directory has your desktop etc. and files but you don't say what is the part you want ot preserve, if its just the look and feel etc. then its easy with home but I can do a basic reinstall and have stuff working in a lot less than 1hr. Its the extra stuff that takes time, making it pretty and downloading my favorite apps again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Opatrick Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 That's the point: my favorite aps: Thunderbird, Firefox, Jedit, ZendStudio, InkScape, Scribus, NVU, MOM and of course OpenOffice... But also the selection of apps from the MDK choice (it took me hours to select those needed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 That's the point: my favorite aps: Thunderbird, Firefox, Jedit, ZendStudio, InkScape, Scribus, NVU, MOM and of course OpenOffice... Yep this does suck! Thunderbird and Firefox are i think available from plf. However NVU proved to be a pain for me... all those mozilla deps... If you have broadband then its pretty simple though you can backup your app install stuff first. (the OO installer/firefox and thunderbird etc.) I keep all this stuff on my main server and just rerun it after a new install (presuming the eth0 is working :D) Anyway, we can also try changing to a newer kernel... there should be a 2.6 kernel on the 10.0 install CD's... if someone has them then they could confirm this for me. you can update the kernel and then update the lilo.conf and I hope this should then give you a working ethernet.... however sometimes its quicker to just reinstall. I have to say the Mandrake installer does strange things... I once spent forever messing about after a install trying to get networking up and Ixthusdan (an admin now) told me to weigh up how much time i was wasting... vs what would I loose for another install. He was right, I reinstalled and it just worked ... I had been messing about for a week ... when the installer doesn't work properly it seems to make a real mess things are half done on config's etc. So we can repair this but I can't guarantee it will fix everything... I'm guessing lots of the problems are due to the installer mixing up the two kernels (normal and enterprise) but then it often forgets to do other stuff (or can't) after that which was kernel dependant. bvc another member here has a lot of sucess just updating via urpmi... he just replaces the progs... I haven't personally tried but once you have working internet it is at least possible. What I do know from experience is that the mandrake upgrade on the install CD rarely works or at least for me. But also the selection of apps from the MDK choice (it took me hours to select those needed) ahh... go minimal.... I used to spend hours... now i just select network client and workstation ... the rest can be added later from URPMI... Also this way you don't install loads of stuff you forget to use but keep getting security updates for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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