Unable to shutdown / logoff

[Guest ethrbunny]

Using v9 - I start the system, make sure that no apps are on the desktop and click "logoff" from the menu The system essentially locks up - the mouse still works but nothing will start. The system never logs off. Same goes for 'Logoff-shutdown' and restart. No go.

 

Suggestions on how to debug this problem?

[bvc]

Open a terminal>su as root> and try

shutdown -r now (to rebbot)

shutdown -h now (to halt/shutdown)

 

I don't know the logoff command.

[chef_kunal]

you cannot logof from an xterm.

but ctrl-alt- bkspc then 'exit' should log u off.

 

or

[bvc]

you cannot logof from an xterm

Sure you can...su as root and type

init 3

 

Some just may argue that this isn't the proper way, and it might not be, but it'll get you to init 3. I've done it a few times without a prob.

[chef_kunal]

actually that doesnt solve any problem about why he cant shutdown or logoff.

[chef_kunal]

but actually etherbunny .....

you havent told us about what window manager ure using, if its gnome or kde or what? and also if youre autologing in or doing a login from kdm or gdm.

 

maybe u wont have that problem if you try loging in from gnome?

 

let me know

[bvc]

actually that doesnt solve any problem about why he cant shutdown or logoff

Is that right? How do you know?

By issuing these commands in a term, should it fail (most likely won't) errors should be more detailed and easily accessible, hopefully pointing out the problem. Otherwise you'll have to call the dm from a term with it's commands and hope to get output to the prob.

[chef_kunal]

http://www.club-nihil.net/mub/viewtopic.ph...7310&highlight=

http://www.mandrakeusers.org/viewtopic.php...1926&highlight=

 

I was thinking this was the nature of his problem.

 

And of course you could be right. It could be a problem with that, but if on selecting logout from the kde menu what would happen is..(IMHO)

1. KDE does its bit closoing files whatever,

2. kde exits and then X

3. hes back to the shell or to his kdm /gdm.

 

on saying init 3 or shutdown -r now etc. he will never get any kde related error messages. the pc will do a straight shutdown or init 3 killing all the processes it has to. If the error was with kde or whatever Wm hes using youll never know with init 3 or shutdown.

 

by the way to logout from a terminal you use 'logout'. xterm konsole etc are terminal emulators not terminals. Try saying logout in an xterm and youll see what i meant from my first reply.

 

Also to get back to the topic, ethrbunny try this.....

when you start the pc and you get a mouse pointer such as when kde starts up press ctrl-alt-bkspc to kill it. then login to gnome or black box or something. then im sure youll be able to logoff.

 

anyway i hope that helps a bit

[bvc]

Yuk! I went to the links. Didn't read in detail, but has anyone tried xdm?

 

on saying init 3 or shutdown -r now etc. he will never get any kde related error messages. the pc will do a straight shutdown or init 3 killing all the processes it has to.If the error was with kde or whatever Wm hes using youll never know with init 3 or shutdown.

That's the idea. It helps eliminates the possibility of the problem being with the kernel and hopefully the video card/X. First thing's first.

 

by the way to logout from a terminal you use 'logout'. xterm konsole etc are terminal emulators not terminals. Try saying logout in an xterm and youll see what i meant from my first reply.

Well, lets try to focus on the prob instead of picking at the slightest detail of nothing. The subject is going from X to anywhere but X. So we wouldn't be in console. Did I say Ctrl>Alt>F2 to a terminal? No, I said "Open a terminal". That can only mean one thing. I have never seen anyone say "open a terminal emulator". Say that to a most new linux users, and what do you think their next question will be.