Vdubjunkie

also check out doom9.org.. vdub does MUCH more than just play the movies. You may want to tell everybody not to worry about you dropping off the planet for a week or so if you really want to get into all that encoding stuff for doze. it is crazy, and if you wait too long while learning it in between steps, they will go and change the tutorials on you. I finally had to give up!! :) oh yeah, check out vstrip and be a part of my motto aaaah yeah, command line dvd ripping. have to love that. plus it is held in high regard by those guys running that web page.

ok, so maybe not "major" apps by size anyway, but... vissh find su mv chmod chown md (with the -P option especially) scp mount umount -l (for when it just refuses to umount nicely!) mc (which is almost too cool to express) w (might just be surprised..) ls -ltr ..and for Windows Putty just rocks

I like that.. however, what if it won't find it. It just bumps me to the next line. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but when working with rpms, it doesn't necessarily seem to see if the file actually exists as much as whatever utility it uses "tells it" that it exists.. The reason I say this is because one of the files it wanted was a *.so.2 file, and I had the *.so.3 file, so I just ln -s the *.so.2 file to the file that the *.so.3 file was "pointing" to. It still gve the error. I know I'm being tempermental right now, but I HATE RPMS right now. I've been trying to get mplayer gui to work for far too long now. I want to use it already!! Once again.. thanks for letting me rant everybody. What a friggin support group you all are. :shock:

ok, failed dependency.. no biggie. this one drives me nuts though. I am ultimately trying to install the gui mplayer vi rpms and I get this message when trying to install audiofile. I don't seem to have this file anywhere find / -name "ld.so*" -maxdepth 6 How do I figure out what supplies this file? :x

my experience with scp is that no encryption keys are required. If you are not using NIS for centralized user database, all you have to do is that the user you are trying to send files as from the source also exists on the target exAcTlY as it does on the source.. why the case issue on exactly? case matters.. might even want to make sure the password is the same. Of course if you have root password on both machines, that is easiest as you will never run into permission issues when transferring. scp localfile.txt root@192.168.1.5:/home/otheruser/tmp is a good example. It will simply ask you for a password. If you think that is cool and also (like me) have to subject yourself to windows, try using the pscp utility that comes with putty. Now that ROCKS!!

I have now had to figure this out the hard way several times.. hopefully this time I'll remember!! Like johnnyv mentioned.. can you ping a direct ip address but not the domain name? dns is likely the issue. However, make sure you have a routing table with a default gateway. netstat -r you should see something like the following: you should at least have one "default gateway"If not add it with route add default gw 192.168.1.1 of course substituting your own numbers for the gateway. If you have a physical firewall, it will be that firewall's ip address, or if you run a proxy, it will be the proxy's ip.. otherwise, your isp should be able to give you a gateway. hope this is of some help to somebody.. the first time I did it, it took an awful long time to get it.

oh yeah.. one last thing. In my haste and excitement I left a command out there with no explanation as to what it really did.. basically my xinitrc file on the "afflicted" machine wasn't "doing the job" so I used scp (a great utility) to copy the xinitrc file from my other linux box to the afflicted machine. If I could have found it I would have quoted it directly, but I read someone recently mentioning how it is good to have one machine you don't alter, and one to "play" with. How true that is. Definitely a good secondary to good backups and even knowing what to backup :P However, I can say that when everything above the level of the ~/.desktop file is in place, the .desktop file does a very good job of switching window managers. I used to alter that file directly quite regularly to switch between kde and WindowMaker. Now that I have my gui back, my task lists has grown significantly!!

Ok, ALL of your help has been very good. However, ultimately it was this piece that got me rolling again. aru.. you seem to be my beacon of light in linux such far. I had spent quite a bit of time (with my limited knowledge) reading through scripts following the files they looked at... My /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc file for one was not even executable, and for another was very different looking than the one on my server. The fix was the following: scp xinitrc root@Medusa:/etc/X11/xinit phew!! that was cool. So, now the next dillema.. With a working X, do I still plunge into a new distro!! :? Ixthusdan: I don't want you to feel overshadowed. I am not yet terribly rpm savvy, and that urpme came in handy. I just ripped out kde altogether. Maybe I'll try installing again another time. :P

Looks, then, like I may be on my way to upgrading to a real man's distro.. I'm sick of hunting down 15 rpm dependencies only to find that one which the whole thing hinges on isnt available and freaking with that mess for HOURS just to get damned mplayer gui working for CHRIST"S SAKE !!! ... . ok, im all better now. Thanks for letting me vent here on the pages of Mandrakeusers.org

the command line is my preference, so diff may be my ticket.. however, the dir/ directly may be tricky. It is from two machines on different networks. In fact one is a doze box. I'll try plugging away with man diff some more and see if I can't figure it out. Thanks.

I feel like I pretty much get everything you are saying. I guess my question then would be.. on a "non-rpm based system" there wouldn't really be a utility running in linux that tells the compiler(lack of more correct term) where to look for various programs?.. and it more or less relies on what it has been told (by the person writing the script) about where the program should be or where the person compiling it tells it the program should be(i.e. --prefix=..) i know that is a bit convoluted, but.. I think this may help a lot.. But I still feel a little unsure of exactly why pkg would incorrectly report version numbers.. maybe if I think back, some of them maybe just weren't reported at all, still coming up with the generic program=>v. requirement message. But I know some of it comes up with bad numbers. Perhaps I am not completely cleaning out old versions of programs and pkg is still looking in their directories to find v#. Does that theory make any sense to anybody else?

I knew I wouldn't have everything the first go round.. plus I did leave out some detail.. yes I am running 9.0, and knew that I already had 4.2.1, but in my ignorance of these types of issues, my system(s) seem to misreport an awful lot, and when I go to install something else, it tells me I need to install this or that even though it's already there. I do have a seperate posting questioning that whole issue, but.. anyway, that is done, and I'm trying to move forward from it. XFree got installed a second time.. Anyway, I have an onboard ATI 128 chip. I yanked my AGP card prior to installation of 9.0. The following is my XF86Config-4 file.. I ripped out the initial comments about being created by XFcfg, etc. for sake of brevity.. Until I get back to the machine, I won't be able to post the rest of the errors, but perhaps this will spark some more thoughts until then..

I know.. Im on a marathon tonight. What I'm looking for is a way to compare two files with a fallout report. I have done a ls > dir.txt to several directories, and would like to figure out exactly what one dir has that the other does not. I don't care about also vice versa, just one dir to the other. I've looked through some of the compare type commands and just don't seem to be able to make sense of any of them for this purpose. as always.. help is greatly appreciated!

I have gone without a real X on my workstation for some time now.. how do I know this? I can't even be certain why I originally decided I needed to upgrade XFree. Anyway, I did upgrade XFree, and used xf86config/xf86cfg, and the other one with the -config switch.. Each time the XF86Config-4 file seemed to turn out the same, which looks ok to me. I have dug around in there before as I attempted to set up dual monitor and am always just very curious. when I run startx I get to icewm I think. Puts up 3 ugly green terminals.. I guess that is a gui, but... well, I'd like something a bit more familiar like WindowMaker or kde and watch my vids, learn to encode in nix, etc.. So, I used my pre-existing .desktop file in ~ with both desktop=kde and desktop=WindowMaker, but always to icewm. Next I decided to run startkde which pops up several errors.. Please forgive me as I have very little time at home (at the terminal that is!) and could only transfer a couple of what I believe to be the most important looking errors to pass along such that they could be accessed from work (where I am now). Heck, if I get the fix from my first posting I'll sh*t a brick anyway. ..anyway, my errors are as follows: $Display is not setcannot connect to x server I also installed all new kde packages, and I believe all of what's important installed ok, but.. if somebody could please HELP!!!!

In case you haven't already heard it elsewhere, DON"T use telnet. Perhaps not as big a deal if you are blocking external ports from the intenet, but why not be safe. Use ssh instead. http://www.openssh.com ..and while you are at it.. buy one of their t-shirts ans support em. They are great! not to mention that then you can securely port vnc through ssh which KICKS ASS!! secure transfer of passwordsonly need for one open port despite how many different vnc servers you access seems like more reliable connection to me .........on and on and on

I installed glib 2.0.7 from tar.gz This went off more or less without a hitch. Next I attempted to install atk 1.0.3 from tar.gz, but pkg-config apparently reported NO version for glib. I know I'm exposing myself and my "green-ness" but I'm not sure why pkg-config doesn't know, or how to make it know the glib v. I remembered one time using ldconfig to "update" something when attempting xine, so I tried that. Still no go. I run two seperate MD machines, 8.2 and 9.0, and I seem to have quite a few problems when attempting to install/upgrade wherein versions are either reported as insufficient or nonexistent. I prefer to install from tar.gz because I think I will learn more that way, so I respectfully ask that nobody attempt to steer me in the direction of rpms unless someone I repect like Aru :lol: gives me reason to think I should avoid tar.gz's when rpms are available. I'm starting to wonder about this.. Oh yeah, I had to export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/lib/pkgconfig to get GLIB installed in the first place. That was hard to find. So, my questions are as follows: Why does pkg-config misreport.. what do I do to keep it "in the know"?Is there a reason I should use/not use tar.gz vs. rpms? What the heck is the purpose of ldconfig? Any thoughts on why a lot of the programs I install are in, for example: /usr/local/bin instead of /usr/bin like they are expected to be? Somewhere along the way I learned to run ./configure and make as a normal user whenever possible and do the make install as root. I've always done that, but sometimes found it necessary to su for the make procedure to complete without errors. Don't know if that is helpful or if somebody may have thoughts about that as well..

Not trying to be difficult, but remember that one BIG plus to linux is not having to reboot after every change, so try to keep those instructions out whenever possible! :lol: Since linux IS superior to doze afterall.

Boy, you were quick to jump. wget is a wonderful tool, and the right answer was given immediately. I use wget DAILY and cannot say enough nice things about it

All they are saying is they want you to update your gcc version. This is not very difficult, but VERY time consuming. You can get the latest version from.. http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html Hope this helps

Well, so far this has proved to be not only a good resource, but an interactive and pleasant one too. Honestly, the attitude of so much of the "help" out there on the internet was what kept me from going full force with linux several years ago. It's people like you that help to change all that I imagine by now you can tell, but I'll say it anyway.. I really appreciate this, and will take you up on the offer again... ..and again.. :P I will have a good time finding the answers to the questions posed in my mind from reading your response. Looks like this little project of mine will really help me to learn some good starter scripting. I'll let you know how it goes! I'm hoping it will become that way :roll: Vdubjunkie says: linux is like evolution.. once Windows offers no more challenges, you evolve or stay planar

ok, im gonna go all out.. i dig this stuff so hard. im not kidding you, i've probably typed out this command 40 times with slight variations already.. i feel like I really understand it and am getting used to it. what I'm thinking next is this.. I don't want you to just spell it out for me, but having a reasonable understanding of how "green" I am, help me onto the path of scripting something which would take user interface for the variables I change i.e. the regexp, the size and the final path. If anything tricky would be encountered by this, maybe help me along with it too. It would be cool to have the script in a directory other than the one I am working in, but not require me to put the directory in, just assume current dir. I'm sure this is simply a common string added in directly following the find command, but.. did I mention that I LOVE this stuff?

I've said it b4, and I'm certian I'll say it again.. Aru, you rock.. so maybe I was saying it to myself before, but now.. it's getting posted. I need to look through my personal settings, because I don't see a button for quote, just the post reply and whatever the one is for new.. No biggie. Not nearly as important. So, here was my final command. find . -size +51199999c -type f -name "cs-pd*" -exec mv {} ../other/buried/folder Well, with the exception of the bogus folder.. I love this stuff. BTW, not that it is a big deal, but I was happy that I was able to figure out for myself that I had to add the ' c ' to the end of the -size n statement to utilize the same size I was getting posted from my ls -ltr cmd. A lot of stuff on deep commands in the man pages are still a bit cryptic to me, but I'll catch on. Who knows, I might be able to pick up on this scripting stuph.

Ronin.. you are my kind of person.. anything you can do in a gui is better done vi cmd line.

Very cool. Thank you both. It is good to see it from two points of view as well to help me learn this stuph. I do have a question though. Since I am working with live data and in fear of freaking it up, am I replacing the ' f ' in -type f with my own string of what files I want to move? and are the {} supposed to be verbatim...? or did i get it backward, and ' f ' is left as is where {} has my string in between them? told you I was a green scripter... but I do have the desire to learn it right rather than always asking others forever how to do what I need done! oh yeah, how do I paste somebody else's exact text with the preamble of "aru said:" or whatever it is..

Hello all.. Here is my latest question. I would like to move a group of files using wildcard but only when they meet a size requirement. More or less only those which downloaded completely. I will be doing this on an ongoing basis, and the filenames will be different from day to day. I'm sure a script can be written and altered as necessary.. and would like to know about that.. but I am wondering whether this would also be able to be entered directly on the command line.. as a related question.. is the only limitation where you can no longer enter a command via command line and must switch to a script where you go into multiple lines and variables and what not? Hopefully that was a little clearer than mud!! Aru, if you read this, I told you I would hit you up, and you now have a better idea of how much/little I know.. I was assuming some type of statement like, if s(size)=51200000, mv filena* ../other I know my syntax may not be exact either, but is the premise workable? Thanks in advance to aanybody willing to help this "green" scripter. oh yeah, and i know not to actually use s(size) the parenthesis were for description.. :o