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Tired of hearing about how fast and cool the new 2.6 kernel is but you don't know how to get it installed? Not sure what a kernel is but love speed? This is for you. Go to this link and download the kernel 2.6 rpm Add that same link to your Software Media Manager under Configuration >> Packaging Open a console and cd to the directory where you saved the kernel rpm type "urpmi kernel-2.6.filename" Reboot Choose 2.6 at the lilo bootloader, and enjoy! Go back into Software Media Manager and uncheck the "Enable" box for the cooker link you added in step 2. Optionally, go into the Mandrake Control Center, go to Boot, and rename the 2.6 in lilo to something cool. It's that easy! I'll edit this post tomorrow to be sure the link is right and to add some pics to clarify.

Glitz: You're right - but with all the RAID and other modern configurations the BIOS'es do need enough in 'em, right? (Otherwise there wouldn't be a need to revamp / re-write it)

Well, maybe not: But try booting without it! :D

I believe Mozilla Firebird is pre-compiled. All I did was download the tar.gz, and type the following in a console in the directory to where I d/l'ed it tar zxvf MozillaFirebird-0.7-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz su [ENTER ROOT PASSWD] mv [NAME OF EXTRACTED DIRECTORY] /usr/share Remember to hit TAB 'cause it'll fill in the long filenames and directory names for you. su Switches User to root, and the zxvf in the "tar" line is for: use gZip; eXtract; Verbose (show filenames); & Filename. F tells tar that the filename follows, in other words "f" always comes last. Side note: To create a tar.gz (*nix ZIP file in windows lingo), type "tar czf filename.tar.gz" for: Create; use gZip; & Filename Cheers! PS - Use Gaim for AIM. One easy RPM. su to root, type "urpmi gaim[TAB]". Be sure TAB fills in the downloaded rpm cause otherwise I think it'll use the one on cd3 which is older and has since been updated for the new msn and yahoo and maybe aim too. Link is below my friend! http://gaim.sourceforge.net

lol OUCH Touche. I'm sure they will considering it's where stuff's headed and the game isn't out yet (but the cpu's and OS's are) Also - the AMD site brags about the opteron having the ability to use 32 bit stuff so you can "migrate at your own pace"

One of these. Adaptec SCSI-RAID Controllers! PS - pasting here for others as well as to make a wishlist with good links for myself

GOT IT. http://www.amdboard.com/tyan_s2885_opteron_board.html This is the board. Screw 533. This is DDR400, dual opteron cpu, 8x AGP3.0 (as long as you use the AMD-8151 chipset), the works. That with the new nVidia card, linux drivers, 2.6.1, ALL FOR DOOM 3 baby. I'm off to price SCSI controller cards, SCSI dvd rom drives & burners, etc. Hmm... I think a black Viewsonic monitor and matching black case are in order. 7.1 surround too. Be back Tuesday.

http://www.penguincomputing.com/store/temp...0-techspecs.php [DROOL] Not sure what mobo they're using. ============================================= HOLY TURD! 4 Opteron CPU's!!! THAT'S what I'll do!! 4 of those cheap 1.4GHz! For the price of one FX! Aw - only supports up to 333 MHz bus speed though, and I don't see an 8x AGP slot :( http://www.amdboard.com/tyan_s4880_opteron_board.html ============================================= I need a board that'll take just two processors and use the PC4200 DDR533 RAM. But then - which processor will work at 533 is the question!

{Scratching my head - literally - it's ichy} OK Thanks, I guess. So you're saying there's (for 64 bit alone) Athlon Fx, Athlon 64, AND Opteron? Now I realize the intent of opteron is servers, but price a bit of a factor (ignore previous post about price, sorry) and from the pricelist AH! OK - so FX is 64, just better... I get it. But I can't afford TWO of those FX suckers! Geez! Check out my hard drive prices! (Remember - I need 2 for RAID) aw well. with a dvd burner I won't need more than 36 gigs anyway. Now: RAM. DDR 400 right? So how d'y'all think this system's shaping up? Still need to find a mobo for smp, with onboard SCSI if possible. I'd like ALL drives to be SCSI. "I'll be back" --Governer of CA

Anybody compare to knoppix yet?

OK did some poking around. It'll be AMD, dual if possible (athlon 64 or opteron ?? why is the former so much more expensive?) nVidia fx 5950 or whatever its called (bloody fast) and SCSI RAID of two 36Gig 15K rpm drives. Questions: 64 bit? (see above about compiling apps) If yes, Athlon 64 or opteron? What frontside bus speed is fastest for the above? Anyone know of a motherboard that can do it?

Well - it seems everybody's on the AMD bandwagon! But isn't the 800MHz FSB out for the P4 - and AMD is only up to 400? Also, 64bit would be nice in a way, but I thought a LOT of apps don't compile for it yet - or am I wrong? Let's say money isn't an issue...

I hope you're giving this great feedback (especially that first post - ALL OF IT) straight to mandrake! It'll be worth it! Let's remember that it's not just the mandrake that's wobbley - Xfree's beta, KDE's beta, AND the kernel already has an rc for 2.6.1 when cooker's using 2.6.0 It's almost a wonder it works at all!

AMD or P4 for my new system? I'd like a darn fast FSB, 2 15000 rpm harddrives in SCSI RAID, and a dual processor setup for the 2.6 kernel to be the puppet master of. Suggestions?

link=> This 45 minute read by Joseph Pranevich, appropriately entitled "The Wonderful World of Linux 2.6", clearly outlines why the 2.6 kernel is just SO DAMN COOL. You'll be happy you read it. http://www.kniggit.net/wwol26.html =========================================================== Unrelated Rhetorical Commentary Why is read (present tense) spelt the same as read (past tense, pronounced "red") ?? Stupid language. And I'm english.

Well - your "special hardware to make it work" point is moot - like I said: Shop smart. I don't own special hardware and it ALL works. I just made sure to not buy windows specific hardware. I already said average joe common consumer will obviously think linux is playing catch up - but the truth is it's only catching up to hardware that isn't either natively supported or using *real* standard protocols. The rest works as soon as either it hits the market and/or the distro hits the market. Joe Consumer can't buy a winmodem, THEN complain that linux is slow to get it to work. Mac hardware is intended for Mac OS ONLY - the fact the the linux community managed to get linux to work on that platform is a bonus - not a sore a point because it took years longer to come out than Mac OS did. Mac hardware/software is developed simultaneously to work together with no forethought of linux or windows. Why would it be different for windows only hardware? My US-Robotics modem isn't antiquated. Works great. Did from Day One. Basically my points don't boil down to bullshit if you buy real parts. That was my point. Hard facts. Oh - and there are more illegal copies of windows being used than the number of linux users illegally watching encrypted dvd's, so of course it matters why it isn't legal. It's legal here! I didn't want to get into a shootout with you - we both use linux. My point was that if the hypothetical IT staff in your anecdote were to read online hardware compatibilty lists or articles for half an hour before placing their order, linux is all gravy. And furthuremore, to bring my point back 'round to include the proper topic at hand, new bioses would be great if the linux community wasn't forced to play catch-up and instead had access to the inner workings of it. Which M$ is well known to NOT do. Period.

Hate to shoot fish in a barrel, but (no wait! I love this!) Here goes: Sure - when they have to figure it out by trial-and-error! If the damn manufacturers were a little more forthcoming with some recogition for linux it wouldn't (and doesn't in, say, nvidia's case for example). I STILL DON'T SEE REISERFS SUPPORT IN WINDOWS!!!! Know what I mean? And those schmucks are getting paid! When hardware is vendor supported it doesn't take ANY longer than windows. Besides, we get MORE, so it's unfair to complain (especially considering all linux developers are working pretty much for free except in very few cases). I'm enthralled by those guys. Maybe so - but you're forgetting that the linux kernel, thanks to this customizable nature, can be very small and therefore save memory and run faster. For example - I don't have one of those, so I'm glad support for it wasn't needlessly compiled in and slowing me down! How long has this hardware WORKED for you with a custom kernel? This sounds like a pro, not a con to me. Many printers are not supported in XP either. Paperweights now. Upgrade or suffer for either OS, so shop smart! How is that linux being behind the times? That's the country's laws that are outdated. I installed 9.2, typed ONE line (urpmi libdvdcss) and have happily watched encrypted DVDs flawlessly since, with an insane amount of ease thanks to the new "dvd" button in xine. It's not fair to blame lack of native support for something on an old law passed by a moron. Well, again, considering if your fstab is pretty, a single "mount /dev/this /mnt/there" (which the TAB key makes lightning speed to type btw) will mount stuff for you anyway, it's really a matter of choice. Some aren't big on it anyway, and most of us linux users don't want a windows clone - we want an alternative. OTOH, supermount works for the 20 or so people I know who use linux, so we all use it without complaint. When it is flaky, often it's a hardware thing. Bet it's never flaky for linux-approved hardware though, if you catch my repetive angst-for-win-only-hardware drift. Yeah - well - they're WINmodems. That has nothing to do with "behind the times" as far as linux is concerned - it's the stupid manufacturers of these attrocities who are obviously behind. Again, WinHardware maybe, which we can still do anyway most of the time. That depends on whether or not it's linux developers trying to get it right or vendor supported. Vendor supported stuff works as soon as the stuff is made same as windows stuff. As per above I disagree. We shouldn't have to figure it out with trial-and-error like NTFS write-support (which we got! yeah baby!) The specs should be open to developers so people are free to make whatever kind of PC they need available to themselves and anyone else who wants it (either free or for a price - but still - a standard is a standard is a standard) Amen to that! Hope I didn't sound too retort-with-a-snort, but I believe linux is at par with windows in EVERY aspect if you shop smart. Granted it looks slow to a average joe common consumer, but we all know the advantages in terms of stability, security, scalability, and - dare I say it - ease of use (if you know what you're doing). Windows specific anything seems a few semi-colons short of a compile if you ask me.

This sounds like a pre-kernel kernel to me - and I have to agree with those of the sentiment that M$ being involved in engineering anything is a BAD idea, because, au contrair to what VeeDub said about m$ being not really any worse than any other company, they have yet to invent something; ANYTHING. We all know everything they've every done was done first elsewhere, then a) made "prettier & easier" to outsell or B) bought out. I believe this is a way for them to get motherboards manufactured that won't boot anything but windows. Obviously we'd overcome, in time, but I hate that a LOT of linux drivers for hardware are simply approximating m$ methods for data transfer, etc. It means we look "behind the times" and incapable of designing original methods for stuff - DESPITE the fact that the 2.6 kernel alone is miles ahead. Usually it's not a matter of linux devel being slower, it's that we can interface with m$ filesystems and hardware, etc (and they can't and don't bother trying to read/writer to say ext3 or ReiserFS, so they get to move forward with their own crud quicker). I'm for the idea of an OPEN BIOS type of new BIOS, because a standard m$ is involved with won't be a standard, it'll be leverage. And it'll mean a wine-like emulation for us at the lowest, most basic level - the mainboard.

that mkinitrd step I've never done That could do it! I take it that'll make a thingy I have to mention in my grub like other distros right? I think I can figure that out ok. Thanks! So, uh.. where do you download these? You added a cooker mirror to your software media manager? If I'm right it's not so hard! Ooooh - can't wait for the morrow, me friends!

So where do we download the newest mandrake 2.6 kernel (you guys are talkin about 2.6.0.0.5 'n' stuff) I had tried getting the bz2 right from kernel.org for test9 and compiled it properly but it wouldn't boot with my mandrake... I'd love to try the mandrake cooker version (must work, right ;) ) If it's an RPM, is there any special procedure to installing it? I've heard MANY times "Don't install the kernel using the rpm!!!" Thanks for any input! Dying to try it!

Found it - it's the Dvorak keymap I'm going to reassemble an old keyboard tonight! It looks like it's definately worth a shot.

Anyone remember the name of those newer one-handed keyboard things someone was talking about one time? Anyone know what I'm talking about?

Jeepers creepers! Novell jumping in with both feet (can't believe SuSE was selling after landing Germany as a customer!) AND Red Hat abandoning the desktop! I suppose M$Linux desktop will be out soon? Either way - mandrake is my bread & butter.

Don't let the man get you down. 8) What.... so take it sitting down??

First impressions of 9.2rc1: Enh. No biggy thus far. I mean my menus had barely anything in 'em, but at least I got to learn how to use menudrake finally (the apps where installed just not there under the menus). Other than that, xine has EVERYTHING now, including dvd support without fiddling (except for encrypted dvd's you need to urpmi ONE rpm, that's it) Seems to work fine, kde has some kickin' screensavers - but overall nothing really different from 9.1 that I've noticed.