Ixthusdan

You're right. If they won't acknowledge the supermount problem (which is real obvious), then admitting that udma/dma is messed up during install will never happen! Again, disappointed in Mandrake, but I am appreciative of the community.

If I understand, your friend told you that your old computer has on-board scsi. This means that you cannot remove the scsi port and use it in your new computer. You need a scsi card that will install into a pci slot.

The motherboard model number EP8kta+pro does not have scsi ports, only ide.

Upon further reasearch, it seems there are more people having to turn off dma -udma in order to load Mandrake. I can't understand why this is, but it seems to be working for some people.

I got your e-mail, and returned some questions to you. In re-reading the posts, I think that the reason your Zip currently works is that your current computer has scsi, either a card or on the motherboard.

What I mean by operating system, is that scsi is a type of hardware. Linux (Mandrake) will run this hardware, but the Zip must connect to a scsi input. The board you listed does not have this, only ide input. Therefore, to use any scsi device with your new board, you will have to purchase a pci scsi controller, a card. It will install into a pci slot, and you will be able to attach your Zip through this card.

RAID can be either ide or scsi; your new board is ide RAID.

I'm not sure I understand your reference to root in the console. Could you explain please?

Has anyone noticed that there seems to be alot of people having trouble with getting 9.0 loaded, and some of it seems to be more than bad downloads and bad burns. Someone that Mandrakes talks to, are there some errata not yet announced that they are working on? Anything with Maxtor hard drives or udma? It just seems that both forums are having this issue come up alot.

Curios. I am running two Maxtor hard drives in my system, along with a cdrw and cdrom. I have not experienced the same problems. I have:

Epox main board with VIA KT133 chipset

Athlon 1G Processor @200MHz fsb

256MB sdram @ 133MHz bus

Nvidia Gforce2 gts with 32MB

generic NIC

Creative Labs hardware modem

Creative Labs SB Live

I believe that Mandrake is written with Intel in mind, so I would expect a problem with VIA rather than Intel.

If you have an extra ide cable, I would try switching it out, as long as it does not cost you anything.

(It is true that win98se with all of the repairs was reasonably stable, but you still had to reboot every 24 hrs!)

You should read the docs because they explain alot. ( Also, if I tell you something wrong, you'll spot it!)

An rpm is a package of software. If what you have is package.number.type.rpm, it is ready for installation. But if you have a file that ends with ---.src.rpm, then this is a package that is designed to be "rebuilt" on your own computer. After rebuilding, the package issues an rpm to the destination I described. After that, you're simply installing the custom built rpm.

I keep forgetting about rpmbuild, but you should use this one. At least I am using urpmi instead of rpm -i !

I have an SMC router with a built in firewall, and I have already seen an attempt to enter my home network. I have a dsl connection that is live all the time. I was just reading about portsentry and I understand the setup for a machine, but I want to monitor the router. I think I can do it with portsentry by entering the ip gateway, which side of the firewall do I give for the ip?

I suppose people will have their own ways to do things, but I agree that the mouse and keyboard combo is the best game play for first person shooters. I was playing that way in windows before I ever started using Linux. My brother always liked the Gravis game pad pro, and I think I have read how to set that up in Linux, but nothing beats mouse/keyboard.

RAID is not useful for running a single hard drive. Your board will operate standard or with RAID, if you have the equipement.

If your ZIP is running with whatever you currently have, then there are three possibilities:

You have a MB with scsi.

You have a scsi card in your current system.

You do not have a scsi ZIP, but rather an ide ZIP.

Operating systems run the equipement. They cannot makeup for equipement that is not there.

I am answering your questions by looking at the manuels from the perspective hardware websights. If I were in Canada, I would be trying to make $130.00CN :wink:

If I were a gambler, I would bet on a bad download. I have dsl, and still have to do a checksum in order to verify the file. Is it possible for your friend to get another set of all three iso images? If the iso was bad, then whether you load from a cd or the hard drive, you are still working with a bad file.

Which type of install do you do? I always do expert in order to erase everything but my /home directory.

I do not think the installer is all that much different, but I could be wrong. There are some arguments that can be passed to the kernel at load time, but since I have never had to do that, I am not at all familiar with those arguments.

Sorry, I still think the obvious is the best course of action, in this case, a bad iso file.

On your idea about a controller conflict: a lot happens with the setup prior to actually installing the system. I would expect an issue like that to manifest prior to the build part of the process. But this is all just guessing.

If all you have is dos, you will need to have the cdrom drivers installed in order to access your cdrom. Or, if you use an old fashioned win98 boot disk, it will boot your system with some good generic drivers.

Once booted with your cd working, the command to copy the cd would be:

xcopy d:*.* c: /T /E /K (copy [source] [destination]) The switches recreate the file struture with attributes, and includes directories.

In the example, d is your drive letter for your cdrom, and c is your drive letter for your hard drive. The win98 boot disk creates a ram drive, or a virtual drive, which may shove the cdrom drive letter back to e, or one letter back than what windows id's it as without booting from the boot disk.

Other useful commands:

md=make directory

dir=lists the contents of a directory

Hope this helps.

You will need to purchase a scsi card in order to use your zip. The zip is a scsi-II. Mandrake is good at setting up scsi, so there should be no problem, once you have the additional card.

RAID is a hard drive array that can give you a faster system, better error recovery from storage, and longer lasting hardware. It is also more expensive to run correctly (you need additional hard drives) and it can give you a headache setting up.

I usually only setup RAID on servers, rather than desktop machines.

The only time I ever lost a partition was from an fdisk setup. When the linux partitioning tool did not recognize the partition, I quit the install and managed to recover key files. Since then I have only used the Linux partioning tool and have never lost data. I have been dual booting since 7.0. I always use expert install so that I can control what is happening.

Just in case, do a checksum on the iso image of cd1. I would think it would stop at the same spot every time, but from the description you are giving of the problem, I have encountered bad downloads or bad burns. That doesn't mean it can't be something else. Interesting, there are more problems of this type with the release of 9.0, but then I haven't been trying to help for that long either. I had a disk problem with 9.0, but it was the 2nd cd that I had to replace. It showed up as weird problems when I ran the system. (I do not always do checksums, which would have really saved me a hassle!)

For sure, ms deliberately brings up the pics in order to distract you from the load time, and the drive is running forever, even after the GUI seems ready. The psychology of it all works!!

I am downloading the manuel. I'll let you know in a few minutes. OK

The CMOS is used for clearing the CMOS, if you set a bios password and forget it, or you need to clear a bios level virus.

WOL is used for "waking up" your computer when the network goes online.

Power on Keyboard enables you to "wake up" the system with a key combo on your keyboard.

The fan is a power connector for additional cooling.

Power loss recovery enables an auto power on after an abrupt power failure

Now the vcore voltage can be used to tweak your processor, but it is not necessary for function.

None of these features are required for your build, and starting with the defaults is fine. So, no, you do not need to mess with any of these, unless any of these descriptions fit your situation.

By the way, your board has ide & RAID, no scsi. So, if you tell me the exact brand and model of your zip, I will tell you how to install it.

It is difficult for me to time the load up. I also have 9.0/me on my box. Overall, boot time might be faster in me, although I don't boot into a login screen like I do in Linux. If I time the actual GUI, both Linux and me have a flicker, and that has to do with how I am running the Nvidia drivers. At work, where I am using login with 98se, I think the load time is about the same as 9.0.

I generally charge $100 for assembly and setup of a complete system. So, the price is OK to me. Epox/Athlon is a great setup, infact, my current system is very close to your equipement. This particular Epox board is jumperless, with settings for tweaking available in the bios. You could assemble this one yourself quite easily, and save some money. What kind of case/power supply do you have? You really should have a 400 watt power supply for this one, although you could get away with 350. Anything less could give you trouble in the long run.

I was playing around with kde and I found a similar problem. It seems that I needed to use the Mandrake files to keep all the depends happy. I had been mixing some Mandrake files and other generic files. Some worked together and some didn't. So, it is safer to stick with Mandrake rpm's.

One other thing, if I remember, autoconf can coexist with some higher versions, and you can tell the makefile which version to use. I think I read that in the documentation for autoconf.

Did you burn a cd or did you buy a box set? This problem usually is seen with a bad burn or a bad checksum. In other words, the data is not recorded correctly or the download is corrupt.

I'm not real big on setting the bios to slower positions unless you have a new board with the latest ram and a piece of hardware from the last century(!!)

Are you sure you have enough room on your installation partitions? I guess I need some more details.

Give me the name & model number of the board, the processor, and the size of the power supply that you are using, and I'll tell you whether it is good or just cheap. And, I can walk you through an install if I know the brand and model number of the board. Many newer boards auto configure, so you do not have to worry about jumpers. But, if there are jumpers, I can help you with that. Just let me know.

Yes, I did. I monitor both boards because it is just plain fun!

I noticed that KDE has a second release candidate. Has anyone tried it? The last time I played with kde 3.1, there were just too many programs not yet functioning, like the control center. But it was the first beta. Anyone played with it?

Did you post this on the other board? Seems like I saw it there too. The hradware database is not comprehensive; everything that works is not listed. So there is no reason to believe that Mandrake will not run a KT333 chipset. I have an Epox board as well. VIA and Intel chipsets are common; I'm sure the packaged kernel will do fine.