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hehe, treachery dalee.... Old age and treachery. :) That's the version I am familiar with. Has a nice sinister ring to it. :cool: I installed Netscape 7.01 whilst fiddling with this. I used the tar from Netscape's home page. Ehhh... it looks very nice. Netscape for Linux has come a long way. While I was fiddling with my system I broke something. :lol: I can't log in anymore. 8) I hope what ever I broke was related to the other stuff I was tinkering with and not simply by installing netscape. It seems to be related to java and i'm wondering if simply installing Netscape did it. But i'm out of my leauge on this one. Had to make a new KDE account so I could come out here and beg for help. 8)

Came across this web site http://www.linuxineducation.org/ while bumming around the news postings at http://PClinuxOnline.com At the bottom of that page was this little gem: http://www.schoolforge.net/

Oh, how could I forget the most important part.... Forget Netscape. Use Opera! 8) http://opera.com/ 8)

If Netscape is shipped with Mandrake then what you did should have reavealed it. Sounds like some CD's could be missing from your sources. Open the Mandrake Control Center and go to 'Software Management' then open 'Software Sources Manager' Make sure all of your installation CD's are listed there. If they are not then you'll need to add them. If the PowerPack CD's are similar to the download CD's then i'm guessing that Netscape will be on CD #2. Otherwise you can grab it from the 'net. Texstar likely has built a Netscape RPM. http://pclinuxonline.com

Nobody can actually be this astoundingly clueless. :roll: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=7598

For Microsoft. 8) http://www.mandrakeclub.com/article.php?th...sh=true&sid=362 Mandrake, in my opinion, is a crucial cog for significant desktop advancement and their fixing things up and gaining momentum is going to fuel the desktop big time. :) In my various ponderings I have asked myself why I want to go through the learning curve to use Linux. Mandrake, in many cases, has virtually eliminated the Linux learning curve. I knew that I would make the jump sooner or later and Mandrake, with it's ease of installation and use made it much sooner. I thoroughly enjoy the fact that I am up and running 100% Linux without having actually learned it yet. 8) Well, learned much of it. I have picked up a fair amount thus far and continue to do so. But, when I first installed DOS & Windows I didn't know anything about it either. Over time I had to learn how to do things in it. Imagine that. :roll: Another pondering has to do with Linux and Windows today. Arguments about Windows desktop ease of use and such fall on deaf ears here. Windows couldn't do diddlysquat 10 years ago. It was just a pretty DOS menu. They've come a long way. After I installed Mandrake I was surprised at how incredibly powerful and flexible the GUI really is. I can't help but think where the Linux Desktop is going to be after more growth and development. Five years? Ten years? It's going to be a tremendous ride and I am happy to be on board. :) Another discovery I made is the shell. Fancy point and click stuff is neat to play with but I rapidly grow fond of the access to the real power of the system. For example I used to think that installing Windows software was easy. Then I learned urpmi and discovered what ease really is. 8) Oh, in my Win2K box at work I often load up the command window to ping a server. One day early on I had closed the command window and later reopened it. I wanted to ping the same server that I had earlier in the day so I hit the arrow up key and nothing happened. :roll: I haven't managed to find a way in Windows to ping without using the command prompt. :roll: And as far as Window's alledged 'ease'.... I installed a new winmodem in my mother-in-law's computer. I booted up the computer, it found the new hardware and began installing it. Part way through it reboots. So, I let it reboot and it did the same thing. So, yeah, installing a modem and having it trash the Windows installation was pretty damn easy! I was out of time so I still have to go back and deal with that. *looks at his Mandrake CD's* 8)

When I installed Linux I created accounts for my kids. This is because they use my computer more than any others in the house. Beyond the creation I have done nothing to the configuration of their accounts and such. For a couple reasons; 1) I haven't learned enough about Linux yet to know what can be controlled. ...I mean, besides everything :) and 2) I am pondering what should be controlled. And, I suspect this could be different for each child. I'm talking strictly computing technology here. :) What software is available that helps with various functions of family security and usability? What software and policies have you found that work well for your family for computer and internet use? What OS programs do your kids enjoy using/playing? My kids have alot of fun with many of the games that came installed on Linux. They each have several favorites and I have bought a few Loki games that they enjoy. No, they are NOT allowed to play my Quake Arena. :P But, I have a major problem with kids games. Math Blaster(s), Reading Blaster(s), Carmen Sandiego, Clue, Oregon Trail, JumpStart ____ (fill in the blank), Elmo's Reading, and on and on. Dozens of titles that I certainly can not retire. I see no alternative to setting up a box with my Win98SE on it to run all this stuff. I am thinking of just having one Win machine with no 'net access, no email and such. Just a standalone for running Win games. I would love to just Wine all this stuff and not bother with Windows at all. But, Wine isn't perfect and I don't have time to screw with that many titles to get them running in Wine. (And only to ultimately fail in some cases.) Has anyone come across open source education titles on the level with some of the heavy hitters sitting on my desk? In summary; how have you used GNU/Linux to provide safe, fun and educational computing solutions for your kids?

Wow, Ben Reser is a very interesting read.

LOLOL... If Mandrake dies I will use.... Mandrake! 8) Sooner or later I would begin tinkering with others if no one pick's up Mandrake's ball and runs with it. But, that would likely be later rather than sooner. :)

I saw that. Talk about some major ripping. :shock: :lol:

As far as offense; of course not. :) Interesting.... nothing else that I have ever browsed with even approaches Opera's speed. I wonder if your speed problems were tied to that java problem? I have not experienced that particular problem with java. But, they finally fixed java in version 6.1. Java didn't work right in previous versions. At least in 6.03.

Here's the google addy for those of you who don't use news readers... http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&....com%26rnum%3D1

Ahh, ok. Sorry, I overlooked your comment that tied the usage to the plugin. The highest version of Netscape I have used is 4.7. I never tried anything higher than that so I have not seen how they compare to others. I used Netscape exclusively in Windows forseveral years. Even way back when I was on AOHell I ran Netscape on top of it because I didn't like their browser. I was never unhappy with Netscape. It's just that Opera came along and it was love at first sight. :)

Here! Here! Well said aru. :) A fun little side project might be to create a GNU/Linux 'calendar' with notable events throughout the year. Birthdays, release dates, etc.

I left Netscape back in my former Windows life. :) But, this is handy info none the less for NS users. :) Both of those IM protocals can be run simultaneously. I do it regularly with Gaim. :)

Woah... Half Life is running flawlessly? I had read previous reports that the menu's didn't work under wine. And Delta Force! Time for me to get seriuos about running some aps in wine. :)

I don't think we're in danger of losing Mandrake. A chapter 11 filing is more of an avenue to counter short term debt problems that can't otherwise be averted. It isn't neccessarily a harbinger of doom. Kmart, and one of the big US airlines are two that come to mind that have been operating under ch11 for over a year now. Granted, a big boost in shelf sales would be the best news. :) How do we get a grass roots campaign going to fuel the spread of Linux? How do we 'pro-activate' LUG's to evangelize their communities? :) Mainstream Win games and special business apps are the only areas that Linux isn't ready to tackle. And that's a market share, not a technology problem. That leaves millions of users who are doing nothing beyond the capabilites of Linux. :)

Or just go to: http://linuxcommand.org/ and click on the SuperMan pages. :)

Make sure you grab a copy of Rute. :) http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/index.html.gz

This is a terrific story! Definitely a keeper. :)

I like it. :) Howver, take note that I am very easily amused. :) Let me know if you can save your settings. I can not. :( I have to set my long, lat & gmt offset every time I start the program. If it works for you then i'll reinstall from the rpm. :)

hehe, don't be jealous! Enjoy the show. :) I have a new answer to your original question. :) I picked up the current issue of Linux Format. Went to the bank and took out a second mortgage on my house to be able to afford the damn thing! :shock: The CD's that came with this months issue are 1) Mandrake 9.0 8) and 2) their standard disk full of trinkets and utilities. One of which is an Astronomy package called Stellarium. I installed it and it is very cool. 8) http://stellarium.free.fr/ It's a basic program; not one that you could plug RA and Dec numbers in to slew your scope but gives a very powerful view of the sky. You can zip around the sky with arrow key's click on an object and get the basic data about it and such. Hit the space bar and it will center your current object on the screen. I love this. 8) Because once it is centered you can zoom in. It kicks ass because it looks like your flying into the object at high speed. This looks cool on nebula and clusters but it REALLY kicks ass on planets. :) I installed from the tarball on the LF CD so I had to do the config, make and so on. ./config ran into a couple dependancy problems but they were easily resloved by urpmi as the mesa stuff that Stellarium was looking for is on the Mandrake CD's. :) But, I read on their website that someone built a Mdk rpm for it. :) Speaking of Mesa.... I miss Halflife. :(

F12...... SWEET! I hand't happened upon that little tid bit yet. I had been going to the File > Quick Preferences menu every time Guess I should pay more attention ot those funny characters next to the description in the menu.

Opera works perfect for me. :) If your going to try Mozilla give Phoenix a whirl. It looks pretty nice. :)

YES! :) I have not had the opportunity to delve into Astronomy software in Linux or other systems. :( But Astronomy is my main hobby. :) I have an old C8. (Celestron 8 inch) Bought it about 20 years ago. It just came with some basic hardware; simple tripod and equatorial mount and a few optics and i've added a few eyepieces and filters to the collection since. I get alot of mileage out it it. I love it. :) I also have a 6" home made (not by me) reflector. That one has been on long term loan to an uncle since I bought the C8. :) It rules. :) It's on a tripod/equaltorial mount made of wood and steel pipes. It weighs a ton. LOL I subscribed to Sky & Telescope (S&T) for about 15 years or so. Still have every issue. Had to skip renewal a few years back during an economic crunch and hadn't gotten around to restarting. Then I got a subscription to Astronomy for my b day this year. It starts next month. :) I read in S&T several years ago that you could buy a special version of TheSky software. This special version was able to link up to one of the big 'scopes at Kitt Peak. (I think) You could actually buy time at the 'scope, slew it and take pictures from your home computer. Dunno how that program ever worked out or if it is still available. As I recall it costs *only* $300 for 15 minutes. LOL Welcome to the universe. :)