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Thank you, will try that as soon as possible.
One thing about MUB, you can't complain about the service
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I use my Microsoft FF wheel to play Torcs (nice game by the way, if you like that sort of thing, check it out if you haven't already) I can get it to work no problems, but say I shut down my Computer today, tomorrow when I start it up again, I'll have to reenter the following commands,
modprobe evdev
modprobe joydev
modprobe usbhid
what can I do, so as I don't have to keep doing this?
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I have this strange issue, which I'll do my best to try to explain, and maybe one of you kind gentleman or ladies, could help me out.
Let say I open up a new kedit document, save it to my 'Documents' folder (any folder will do), if I then open the Document folder the file that I just saved there will not be there, well not until I hit the reload/refresh button, then it will show up.
I use Ccrypt to encrypt/decrypt (as you may guess) certain files on my PC, when it encrypts a file, it adds the .cpt extension to the file, however, when I do this the file/file extension will not change, again until I hit the reload button, and until I do hit the reload button, if I open the file it will be blank, and if I hover my pointer over it it will display a padlock on the file icon, but once I hit reload button all will be normal. The same also happens when doing the reverse, encrypting the file.
Also today, I was checking a newly created log file, and I just checked the file properties to see the modified date, as I had just basically modified the file, however it didn't show the correct modified date/time, again, until I hit the reload button.
As you can see all these things are similar, so, I ask, whats going on?
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hmmm, to tell you the truth I didn't even look at the cpu usage, I just run top again. and it's giving Firefox as 99%, however, there is no real performace hit, I can play a game off Quake3 with no problems.
As you can see in the one I posted before, up the top of this page, it was showing 3
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Here's one just after a reboot,
top - 20:05:23 up 2 min, 1 user, load average: 0.68, 0.46, 0.18 Tasks: 94 total, 1 running, 93 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 10.0% us, 4.7% sy, 0.0% ni, 65.6% id, 19.4% wa, 0.2% hi, 0.2% si Mem: 2075524k total, 328892k used, 1746632k free, 15844k buffers Swap: 2152668k total, 0k used, 2152668k free, 163556k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 1 root 16 0 1572 536 472 S 0 0.0 0:01.12 init 2 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/0 3 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0 4 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/1 5 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 ksoftirqd/1 6 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 events/0 7 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.01 events/1 8 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.01 khelper 9 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kthread 12 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.07 kblockd/0 13 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kblockd/1 14 root 13 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kacpid 104 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kseriod 146 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 pdflush 147 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 pdflush 148 root 17 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kswapd0 149 root 13 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 aio/0 150 root 13 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 aio/1 804 root 11 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kpsmoused 808 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kirqd 820 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.08 kjournald 900 root 18 -4 2276 1292 436 S 0 0.1 0:00.13 udevd 1029 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 khubd 1103 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 khpsbpkt 1111 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 knodemgrd_0 1381 root 14 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 ata/0 1382 root 14 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 ata/1 1440 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.01 kjournald 1442 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kjournald 1844 root 15 0 1616 624 512 S 0 0.0 0:00.03 syslogd 1945 daemon 18 0 1696 360 272 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 atd 1962 root 15 0 2344 1256 392 S 0 0.1 0:00.04 klogd 1987 root 16 0 2384 884 516 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 crond 2036 messageb 15 0 2540 1100 868 S 0 0.1 0:00.29 dbus-daemon 2150 root 16 0 1564 520 448 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 acpid 2177 haldaemo 15 0 9160 7508 1800 S 0 0.4 0:00.99 hald 2178 root 23 0 3208 1200 1040 S 0 0.1 0:00.03 hald-runner 2187 haldaemo 20 0 2180 868 776 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 hald-addon-acpi 2309 haldaemo 15 0 2176 876 780 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 hald-addon-keyb 2384 root 16 0 2144 764 684 S 0 0.0 0:00.02 hald-addon-stor 2395 root 20 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 ac97/0 2398 root 20 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 ac97/1 2474 root 16 0 2144 764 684 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 hald-addon-stor 2650 root 16 0 1592 432 368 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 ifplugd 2766 root 15 0 2740 516 320 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 pppd 2933 rpc 16 0 1692 556 456 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 portmap 3066 rpcuser 16 0 1704 720 628 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 rpc.statd 3085 avahi 15 0 2828 1472 1272 S 0 0.1 0:00.00 avahi-daemon 3089 avahi 18 0 2828 448 288 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 avahi-daemon 3090 xfs 16 0 4772 2984 1156 S 0 0.1 0:00.62 xfs 3205 root 15 0 2888 796 672 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kdm 3228 root 15 0 39472 21m 7040 S 0 1.1 0:02.48 X 3263 root 17 0 3612 1656 1316 S 0 0.1 0:00.00 kdm 3314 clamav 16 0 29024 16m 660 S 0 0.8 0:00.00 clamd 3411 clamav 16 0 4800 1356 1064 S 0 0.1 0:00.02 freshclam 5101 root 15 0 2108 604 528 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 mandi 5148 root 16 0 2716 884 748 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 lisa 5224 root 17 0 1556 448 388 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 mingetty 5225 root 17 0 1560 452 388 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 mingetty 5226 root 17 0 1560 452 388 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 mingetty 5227 root 17 0 1560 452 388 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 mingetty 5228 root 17 0 1556 448 388 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 mingetty 5229 root 17 0 1556 448 388 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 mingetty 5314 jagwah 17 0 3944 1480 1032 S 0 0.1 0:00.06 startkde 5393 jagwah 16 0 2708 656 536 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 dbus-launch 5399 jagwah 25 0 2428 488 396 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 dbus-daemon 5414 jagwah 16 0 3344 772 608 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 imwheel 5429 jagwah 15 0 8440 2776 2320 S 0 0.1 0:00.00 s2u 5479 jagwah 16 0 26688 7408 5944 S 0 0.4 0:00.06 kdeinit 5482 jagwah 15 0 25944 2620 1448 S 0 0.1 0:00.03 dcopserver 5484 jagwah 15 0 27904 8168 6864 S 0 0.4 0:00.04 klauncher 5488 jagwah 15 0 34156 13m 11m S 0 0.7 0:00.49 kded 5490 jagwah 15 0 2824 1528 968 S 0 0.1 0:00.03 gam_server 5510 jagwah 16 0 1548 356 296 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kwrapper 5514 jagwah 15 0 28048 10m 8464 S 0 0.5 0:00.07 ksmserver 5519 jagwah 15 0 30108 12m 10m S 0 0.6 0:00.24 kwin 5536 jagwah 15 0 37832 18m 14m S 0 0.9 0:00.85 kdesktop 5547 jagwah 15 0 33772 15m 11m S 0 0.7 0:00.42 kicker 5557 jagwah 15 0 26800 7168 5680 S 0 0.3 0:00.01 kio_file 5558 jagwah 16 0 26800 7164 5680 S 0 0.3 0:00.01 kio_file 5559 jagwah 16 0 26800 7164 5680 S 0 0.3 0:00.01 kio_file 5582 jagwah 15 0 9936 5268 4084 S 0 0.3 0:00.18 artsd 5584 jagwah 15 0 28024 9m 8312 S 0 0.5 0:00.07 kaccess 5588 jagwah 15 0 32288 14m 11m S 0 0.7 0:00.18 kmix 5590 jagwah 16 0 33252 23m 8168 S 0 1.2 0:00.68 net_applet 5591 jagwah 18 0 2672 868 720 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 xsettings-kde 5625 jagwah 20 0 3940 1480 1032 S 0 0.1 0:00.00 firefox 5629 jagwah 23 0 3984 1516 1024 S 0 0.1 0:00.00 run-mozilla.sh 5634 jagwah 15 0 199m 45m 22m S 0 2.2 0:05.50 firefox-bin 5637 jagwah 15 0 5392 2884 1800 S 0 0.1 0:00.12 gconfd-2 5677 jagwah 15 0 35372 12m 10m S 0 0.6 0:00.06 knotify 5723 jagwah 15 0 32572 14m 11m S 0 0.7 0:00.20 konsole 5724 jagwah 15 0 5124 2884 1260 S 0 0.1 0:00.12 bash 5767 jagwah 15 0 2076 972 732 R 0 0.0 0:00.00 top
Here is one with the Firefox extensions disabled, (just the relevant Firefox stuff)
top - 20:13:20 up 10 min, 1 user, load average: 0.09, 0.17, 0.14 Tasks: 95 total, 1 running, 94 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 4.5% us, 1.4% sy, 0.0% ni, 89.0% id, 4.8% wa, 0.1% hi, 0.1% si Mem: 2075524k total, 349040k used, 1726484k free, 17672k buffers Swap: 2152668k total, 0k used, 2152668k free, 173948k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 5788 jagwah 18 0 3940 1480 1032 S 0 0.1 0:00.00 firefox 5797 jagwah 15 0 131m 35m 17m S 0 1.8 0:04.46 firefox-bin
Please post what cpu you are using.P4 3.4Ghz LGA775
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My Amarok on Mandriva Free 2007 pays mp3's just fine (no plf Amarok stuff), so I don't really know what to say :unsure:
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to get a better idea of what it's up to, you can do top -b > somelogfile
Thats the ticket
, only the names have been changed to protect the Innocent top - 19:17:01 up 20:15, 1 user, load average: 1.29, 1.15, 1.07 Tasks: 94 total, 4 running, 90 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 22.0% us, 9.9% sy, 0.0% ni, 67.0% id, 0.5% wa, 0.3% hi, 0.3% si Mem: 2075524k total, 1996140k used, 79384k free, 35572k buffers Swap: 2152668k total, 184k used, 2152484k free, 1655728k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 5639 jagwah 25 0 216m 107m 23m R 99 5.3 769:56.96 firefox-bin 1 root 16 0 1576 536 472 S 0 0.0 0:01.12 init 2 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/0 3 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.01 ksoftirqd/0 4 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/1 5 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.01 ksoftirqd/1 6 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.05 events/0 7 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 events/1 8 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.01 khelper 9 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kthread 12 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.61 kblockd/0 13 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.06 kblockd/1 14 root 13 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kacpid 104 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.01 kseriod 146 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 pdflush 147 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:08.77 pdflush 148 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:08.61 kswapd0 149 root 13 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 aio/0 150 root 13 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 aio/1 805 root 11 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kpsmoused 806 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kirqd 820 root 11 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.28 kjournald 900 root 16 -4 2276 1292 436 S 0 0.1 0:00.29 udevd 1029 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 khubd 1097 root 16 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 khpsbpkt 1107 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 knodemgrd_0 1370 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 ata/0 1371 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 ata/1 1430 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:06.87 kjournald 1432 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.04 kjournald 1895 root 19 0 1616 632 516 S 0 0.0 0:00.22 syslogd 2035 daemon 16 0 1700 364 272 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 atd 2068 root 16 0 1560 520 448 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 acpid 2085 root 15 0 2344 1252 392 S 0 0.1 0:00.10 klogd 2110 root 16 0 2384 888 520 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 crond 2127 messageb 15 0 2540 1096 868 S 0 0.1 0:00.51 dbus-daemon 2165 haldaemo 16 0 9160 7508 1800 S 0 0.4 0:00.96 hald 2166 root 23 0 3204 1192 1040 S 0 0.1 0:00.01 hald-runner 2174 haldaemo 19 0 2176 868 776 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 hald-addon-acpi 2186 haldaemo 15 0 2180 876 780 S 0 0.0 0:00.08 hald-addon-keyb 2268 root 16 0 2140 760 684 S 0 0.0 0:06.96 hald-addon-stor 2330 root 16 0 2140 764 684 S 0 0.0 0:07.21 hald-addon-stor 2370 root 20 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 ac97/0 2371 root 20 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 ac97/1 2674 root 15 0 1592 432 368 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 ifplugd 2757 root 16 0 2744 516 320 S 0 0.0 0:00.06 pppd 2924 rpc 15 0 1692 548 456 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 portmap 3074 avahi 15 0 2824 1468 1272 S 0 0.1 0:00.04 avahi-daemon 3076 avahi 17 0 2824 448 288 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 avahi-daemon 3077 rpcuser 16 0 1700 724 628 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 rpc.statd 3081 xfs 16 0 4772 2992 1156 S 0 0.1 0:04.82 xfs 3138 root 15 0 2888 800 672 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kdm 3165 root 15 0 68156 50m 5152 S 0 2.5 3:15.80 X 3170 root 16 0 3612 1660 1316 S 0 0.1 0:00.00 kdm 3440 clamav 20 0 45788 32m 960 S 0 1.6 0:05.32 clamd 3534 clamav 15 0 4804 1360 1064 S 0 0.1 0:00.04 freshclam 5085 root 15 0 2112 608 528 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 mandi 5132 root 15 0 2712 896 748 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 lisa 5212 root 17 0 1556 448 388 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 mingetty 5213 root 17 0 1556 448 388 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 mingetty 5214 root 17 0 1560 452 388 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 mingetty 5215 root 17 0 1556 444 388 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 mingetty 5216 root 17 0 1560 452 388 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 mingetty 5217 root 17 0 1556 448 388 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 mingetty 5306 jagwah 17 0 3940 1480 1032 S 0 0.1 0:00.03 startkde 5380 jagwah 16 0 2708 652 532 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 dbus-launch 5384 jagwah 16 0 2536 1084 956 S 0 0.1 0:00.00 dbus-daemon 5412 jagwah 15 0 3344 832 660 S 0 0.0 0:00.43 imwheel 5415 jagwah 15 0 8440 2772 2320 S 0 0.1 0:00.00 s2u 5454 jagwah 17 0 26688 7404 5944 S 0 0.4 0:00.11 kdeinit 5457 jagwah 15 0 25944 2672 1484 S 0 0.1 0:00.21 dcopserver 5461 jagwah 15 0 27904 8244 6932 S 0 0.4 0:00.08 klauncher 5463 jagwah 15 0 34516 14m 11m S 0 0.7 0:01.32 kded 5467 jagwah 15 0 2824 1528 968 R 0 0.1 0:04.22 gam_server 5485 jagwah 15 0 1552 356 296 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kwrapper 5487 jagwah 15 0 28048 10m 8512 S 0 0.5 0:00.27 ksmserver 5488 jagwah 15 0 30248 12m 10m S 0 0.6 0:02.91 kwin 5495 jagwah 15 0 39316 18m 14m S 0 0.9 0:01.79 kdesktop 5518 jagwah 15 0 33992 16m 12m R 0 0.8 0:03.90 kicker 5521 jagwah 15 0 26800 7216 5704 S 0 0.3 0:00.03 kio_file 5536 jagwah 15 0 20224 6620 4816 S 0 0.3 0:00.97 artsd 5540 jagwah 15 0 28024 9m 8312 S 0 0.5 0:00.48 kaccess 5544 jagwah 15 0 32288 14m 11m S 0 0.7 0:00.46 kmix 5546 jagwah 15 0 35296 26m 9.8m S 0 1.3 0:00.78 net_applet 5547 jagwah 18 0 2676 872 720 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 xsettings-kde 5630 jagwah 19 0 3940 1476 1032 S 0 0.1 0:00.00 firefox 5634 jagwah 23 0 3984 1516 1024 S 0 0.1 0:00.00 run-mozilla.sh 5642 jagwah 15 0 5396 2880 1796 S 0 0.1 0:00.12 gconfd-2 5685 jagwah 15 0 36904 13m 10m S 0 0.7 0:00.36 knotify 5690 jagwah 20 0 8704 3444 2948 S 0 0.2 0:00.04 gnome-vfs-daemo 10291 jagwah 15 0 42524 23m 18m S 0 1.2 0:04.58 konqueror 10822 jagwah 15 0 32572 14m 11m S 0 0.7 0:00.29 konsole 10827 jagwah 16 0 5124 2884 1260 S 0 0.1 0:00.20 bash 10870 jagwah 15 0 2072 968 732 R 0 0.0 0:00.00 top
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How did you install firefox? Is it a Mandriva rpm, or a mozilla binary package
I downloaded it from the Mozilla/Firefox site, I use 4 extensions with it,
Add Bookmark Here
Inline Google Definitions
Plain Text To Link
Net Usage Item
When I look at the entries in KDE SystemGuard ProcessTable, where I am able to scroll easily and see all the tasks, there isn't anything else that comes close to using what Firefox is using, other than the ones that say 0, the vast majority are only 4 digit, with a dozen or so in the 20000 to 40000 range, and X being next inline to Firefox.
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Yes I see that it switches, and have been watching it for a while, but when it switches 99% seem to be the same as before the switch, only adding a couple of extras. I must go know, back this afternoon.
Thanks
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top - 05:06:47 up 6:04, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.07, 0.02 Tasks: 94 total, 1 running, 93 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 1.3% us, 0.8% sy, 0.0% ni, 96.3% id, 0.3% wa, 0.7% hi, 0.5% si Mem: 2075524k total, 2021768k used, 53756k free, 106216k buffers Swap: 2152668k total, 92k used, 2152576k free, 1544172k cached 5639 jagwah 15 0 201m 75m 22m S 3 3.7 8:43.03 firefox-bin 3165 root 15 0 35108 18m 5440 S 1 0.9 0:32.78 X 9746 jagwah 15 0 33396 15m 11m S 0 0.8 0:00.55 konsole 9791 jagwah 16 0 2076 1084 832 R 0 0.1 0:00.06 top 1 root 16 0 1576 536 472 S 0 0.0 0:01.12 init 2 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/0 3 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0 4 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/1 5 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 ksoftirqd/1 6 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.02 events/0 7 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 events/1 8 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.01 khelper 9 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kthread 12 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.30 kblockd/0 13 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.02 kblockd/1 14 root 13 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kacpid 104 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.01 kseriod 146 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 pdflush 147 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:02.44 pdflush 148 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:01.19 kswapd0 149 root 13 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 aio/0 150 root 13 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 aio/1 805 root 11 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kpsmoused 806 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kirqd 820 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.10 kjournald 900 root 16 -4 2276 1292 436 S 0 0.1 0:00.29 udevd 1029 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 khubd 1097 root 16 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 khpsbpkt 1107 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 knodemgrd_0 1370 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 ata/0 1371 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 ata/1 1430 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:01.97 kjournald 1432 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.04 kjournald 1895 root 15 0 1616 628 512 S 0 0.0 0:00.05 syslogd 2035 daemon 16 0 1700 364 272 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 atd 2068 root 16 0 1560 520 448 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 acpid 2085 root 15 0 2344 1252 392 S 0 0.1 0:00.07 klogd 2110 root 16 0 2384 888 520 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 crond 2127 messageb 16 0 2540 1096 868 S 0 0.1 0:00.33 dbus-daemon 2165 haldaemo 16 0 9160 7508 1800 S 0 0.4 0:00.96 hald 2166 root 23 0 3204 1192 1040 S 0 0.1 0:00.01 hald-runner 2174 haldaemo 19 0 2176 868 776 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 hald-addon-acpi 2186 haldaemo 15 0 2180 876 780 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 hald-addon-keyb 2268 root 16 0 2140 760 684 S 0 0.0 0:01.53 hald-addon-stor
There would be more, as it says there are 94 tasks, but I can't seem to scroll to access/copy it, thats all that will fit on a maximised window, I have no idea how to be able to copy the rest, that which would be below the last line above. This is the reason why I never paisted it in the first place, as it would have been incomplete, and therefore perhaps of no use to you, so if you can tell me how I can copy the whole, I will gladly post it.
I can see them all, and scroll to them all by viewing it via the Process Table in KDE System Guard (ctrl+esc), but other than typing them out one by one, I don't know how to copy the info from there to here. Sorry, but I just don't know how to do it
[edit] just edited to change my user name in the list to jagwah
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Well yeah, it sought of occurs increasingly as the download progresses, although you may not really notice it to bad until a big chunck/most of the ram is used. I tend not to do much whilst downloading, I prefer to let it do it's thing, and use another PC if I need to do something else.
I just use Firefox to download, nothing special. I tried doing it through konqueror and it's the same. I'm on my other PC now, and just checking it again with a download, but the same happens here to.
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If I download a file, the used memory will start to rise, (it seems to rise fairly constantly, at about 10000KB a minute) and will continue to as long as the download continues, or all the ram is used. If I stop the download, the rise in used ram will stop, if the download is a large one it will continue to rise up to the point where a small amount of swap gets used. On a 700MB download it will usually get up to about 1.5GB used, on the likes of the Mandriva Powerpack, 4.3GB, it's all gone(almost) and a small amount off swap is used. Once the download is finished there is no real drop in amount of ram used, it stays maxed out until rebooted.
It is repeatable every time with a large download. I have done it 5 times over the last couple of days, and every time it happens. Is there a way to flush/clear the ram without the need to reboot?
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This is normal. This is not a bug, no problem here.
The reason I brought this up is because there IS a problem, which is what lead me to look at the memory usage, I don't habitually go around checking how much memory is being used. I noticed noticeable performance degradation, looked, and seen the RAM thing, so I just thought that may be the/a problem. The only time I get the problem happens to coincide with the Memory being shown as practically all used, and a small amount of swap being used. I can play Quake3, Quake4, Doom3, etc all day long, without any problems, but as soon as I do something like Download large files (one thing that I have noticed will do it every time), the used RAM skyrockets, and I get the problem, There IS a problem here, it may not be what I am thinking as you say, but there surely is one.
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read what I said, you're wasting your time trying to fix a problem that doesnt exist.
this is normal behaviour. it is normal for the kernel to have large caches in unused ram. there is no disadvantage to having large caches in unused ram.
if you dont want swap to occur, remove the swap, but from what i've seen so far practically 0 swap is being used anyway on your system so there's no harm.
James
Sorry, I didn't see your first post,
but...,
let me get his straight, it is normal that all my RAM is used, to the point where the screensaver won't even run correctly when activated, it runs at a crawl, stutters and jerks, and to the point where the system is noticeably slow? (all of which is cured by a reboot) Sorry, but I wasn't aware that this was normal behaviour.
Perhaps the RAM isn't being free'd up, If while it is showing that most of the RAM is used, I try and start Quake3 or Quake4 for example, they will take at least 30 sec's to even start, I will just get a blank screen and have to just sit an wait, however, after a reboot, or at a time when all the RAM isn't shown as used, they will start instantly, surely this is not normal behaviour?
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I have just tried it using Konqueror instead of Firefox, exactly the same thing happens, if I cancel the download, the constant increase in RAM usage stops, and drops a little, but not as low as it was before the download started.
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Next time you encounter that problem, open a console and type in
top
Pass the outcome here.
top - 11:37:29 up 2:48, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.03, 0.00 Tasks: 96 total, 1 running, 95 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 1.8% us, 0.0% sy, 0.0% ni, 97.8% id, 0.2% wa, 0.2% hi, 0.0% si Mem: 2075524k total, 2023428k used, 52096k free, 97836k buffers Swap: 2152668k total, 0k used, 2152668k free, 1534964k cached
That is after about 2 and a half hours, all that was happening during that time was that Firefox was open (1 tab) and I downloaded 2 x 700MB ISO's. You can watch the memory usage continually rise, at the rate of approx 10000KB a minute.
You can add the following line to the end of /etc/sysctl.conf to decrease the tendency to use the swap file:vm.swappiness=10
This changes the value from the default of 60 to a value of 10. The value being used can be checked with cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
Thanks, I'll store that away in my little tips and tricks file, but I don't think I should be using any swap at all with 2GB of RAM, especially while only running Firefox and downloading a couple of files :sad:
Time to reboot ... again
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Both my systems are running Mandriva 2007, 1 the Free DVD version, and 1 the Powwerpack DVD version, both have 2 gig of RAM, and both display the same problem.
If I download large files, say DVD/CD ISO's, or do an update through MCC Software Manager, and or install a couple of hundred MB of software, something that takes a little bit of time, almost all my RAM will be used up and it will have started eating into my swap. Just doing normal things, using Firefox, Amarok etc, it seems sometimes that the RAM that a program uses does not free up when that program is stopped and the amount of used RAM accumulates.
Heres an example after just having Firefox open with 2 tabs, and downloading a 4.3 GB DVD ISO, been running for about 6 hours.
free total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 2075524 2018396 57128 0 62508 1482152 -/+ buffers/cache: 473736 1601788 Swap: 2152668 184 2152484
Any ideas?
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or you can just right click on the desktop, choose Create New/Link to Application, give it a name, and an Icon if you like, then under the application tab, in the 'Command' box type,
kdesu konqueror
click ok, then when you double click it enter your root password and away you go.
You can also add a path after so it will open to that, eg
kdesu konqueror / - will open to root's home
kdesu konqueror /home/yourusername - will open to your home folder etc.
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or you can just drag and drop the Home icon from your desktop to your panel, and there it be.
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I've managed to fumble my way through downloading, opening, making a "shortcut", etc. for several apps, but it seems like there should be a simple 1.2.3. guide somewhere... to be honest, a lot of the commands in a terminal window are still like incantations to me, and I'm just typing them in "because it says to".
Stick with it, it will come with time, it does become easier/more natural eventually. I know how totally alien it may seem to you at the moment, but it does get better. And if you make it through the tough bits, you'll be better off for it.
Oh, you can also get GoogleEarth through the Mandriva software manager, you would have to set up you repositories, and then just search for google earth, and it will install it for you, you can also do that for firefox, but I don't like some of the things that Mandriva have done with it, so I prefer to just get Firefox directly from Mozilla.
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Well, this is what I do for Firefox, just extract the contents, (you can just right click and select open in new tab) then copy the firefox folder to where ever, I always put it in,
usr/local
making the path usr/local/firefox
(others may put it elsewhere for various reasons, multiple users etc, but I have no problems with it there)
To run it, I right click on the desktop, select 'create new/link to application, give it a name, firefox is good :D , you can also click the square to the left to select an icon, then click the 'Application' tab, beside the command box, click the 'browse' button and navigate to 'usr/local/firefox' (or where ever you decided copy the firefox folder) then click the file 'firefox', then click ok, resulting in '/usr/local/firefox/firefox' being inserted in the command box. Click ok, then double click the firefox icon that will be created on your desktop, and your away.
If it doesn't run when you double click it, open the usr/local/firefox directory, then press f4, which will open a konsole, then type in
./firefox
hit enter, and see if it gives you any errors, mine always needs a version of libstdc++ to be installed, so I just install libstdc++5-3.3.6-3mdk.i586 from the installation DVD and all is fine.
Google earth, open a console and type
sh nameofbinfile.bin
where nameofbinfile.bin = the name of the google earth file, press enter and that should do it. (I think)
You may find some of this stuff useful to have a read through,
https://mandrivausers.org/index.php?showtopic=10614
have fun
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You should be ok as ianw1974 says, it's easy as, I've done it several times without any problems, just make sure when you select Custom Partitioning you don't delete the WindowsXP partition ;) and/or any other partition you may have windows stuff on.
I had actually wanted to re-partition another 20Gb or so for MandrivaIf by this you mean that you want to resize your Windows partition to gain and extra 20GB, well, people do it, I was never quite confident enough to try it, but never really needed to anyways. Best be prepared and back up the stuff you can't afford to loose just incase, then the worst would be you'd have to do a Windows reinstall if it went down the toilet.
Good Luck ..., have fun ..., you'll be fine.
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Yes, that's what I looked at when I first came across the twirly back in the RC releases, but what I would really like, is not to change the cursor theme, but just keep the default cursor theme, and just get rid of old twirly, this I think would not be possible, well, at least without some major hackery type stuff, which is far out of my league. It's really no big deal, but if it could be done easily, I'd surely do it :)
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Well I don't get any problems/artifacts from the "twirly thing", but I would like to be able to "banish" it myself, don't know how but sorry, hopefully someone will. It may not be possible though.
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Windows is a lot like that. Prepackaged, protective, mostly works- it crashes pretty regularly, but everybody thinks that's normal so nobody cares.
This is one thing that really gets on my goat, it is simply not true, at least with XP, and I am going by the only thing I can, the one thing I know to be true, and that is my personal experience. XP crashes very rarely, I have no problems whatsoever with it. XP is rock solid. Can you crash it?, can you mess it up?, sure, but just because you can crash a Ferrari, or blow up it's engine, does not equate to a Ferrari being a bad car, or it having a bad engine. There is no accounting for a bad user/driver
(Well, I guess while I am at it I may as well keep going)
In my experience it is also a fallacy that you need to reformat it regularly, there really is no need for it, I know plenty of people who are running the same install years later, and yes, it is running fine. I still have one rig running fine after 2 years plus, can many of us Linux users say the same ?, many can't, simply because of the fact that they upgrade to a new release every year or half year, or change to a new distro every now and then, that they don't even get the chance to acheive that longevity. Are there Linux systems that are running fro that length of time and longer? sure there are.
I also find the argument about virus's, spyware, etc, etc, on Windows to be somewhat misleading. Since 1998 I have had 1 virus, and that was given to me by someone I know, who gave me a file that was infected. It caused me no problems at all. I am on the net everyday, I download much, much more than the average joe (I'm a gamer to the core). Also the thing about updating your virus scanners, spyware prog's etc are time consuming and a hassle, like wow, it takes me approx 1 to 2 minutes a day to update my AVG, Spybot, and Ad-Aware.
Is Windows targeted, and is it susceptible to virus's etc, sure, does that mean you ARE going to be struck down, no. I run only the inbuilt XP firewall, AVG Free, Ad-Aware Free and Spybot S@D(the latter 2 do nothing to stop infections etc in real time on my machine, they just scan when I tell them to manually once a week, by the way, they have never found any nasties) Before XP I used no firewall and Mcafee Virus scanner, nothing else. 1 virus in 8 years, hardly worth mentioning.
Sure, there are people who are staunch Linux people, they have their reasons why they prefer Linux, and why they think Linux is superior, to them WindBlows !!
on the other hand,
There are people who are staunch Windows people, they also have their reasons why they prefer Windows, and why they think Windows is superior, to them LinSux !!
Who is right? they all are, they are using what suits them, and their needs best.
To me the area Windows is just soooooooo far ahead of Linux, is in an area that is not the fault of Linux, it is the lack of support for/from mainstream programs/products. Since comming to Linux, there has not been one 'minor' program that I need, that I don't prefer the Linux equivalent to what I used in Windows, things like compression utilities, ftp, media players, etc, etc, and whats more, most of what I require comes preinstalled, or at least selectable at the installation of the OS, simply amazing, I am still blown away by the depth and quality of software available right off the bat, and then there is the repositories, I actually find it a bit mind numbing at times. But, .... it is the lack of support for/from the mainstream programs/products, and especially the specialist stuff, that lets Linux down, and where for me, Windows just bounds out in front. I need my Doom3/Quake4, "insert game name here" engine tools, but they, or an equivalent, simply don't exist in Linux. I need my ProTools, BFD, Trilogy, 'insert software title here", in some cases equivalents do exist, eg, Pro Tools - Rosegarden, Ardour, but they aren't really 'equivalent' they will do the job to a certain extent, but ...
I often fight within myself as to why I even bother with Linux, I mean, Windows does everything I want, it does it easily, and it does it out of the box, it just works as they say. Where as Linux does not do everything I want, I still need to have Windows installed, why bother using/maintaining 2 different systems when all I need is 1? To be honest, I really don't know, I can't really explain it, except for Linux is just plain fun, a joy to just use. Windows is just an OS, a means to an end, where as Linux transends just being an OS, it is fun to use in it's own right, it's a state of mind, it's an Ideal, it's nigh on a way of life
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gaming consoles are in the position to best serve gamers, with a few exceptions, namely those heavily reliant on keyboards. However you have to question the marketing companies of such consoles to recognise the demand for the ever so popular strategy and First person shooters, that heavily rely on keyboards, there's nothing to stop them developing and marketing a keyboard and mouse of their own in order for users to get the best out of these types of games (correct me if i'm wrong here, the last console I owned was a Playstation). So this begs the question, are PC's really needed for games, or is it just an added bonus?Besides consoles lacking the Keyboard/Mouse combination (they have been/are maybe available for consoles, but never really took off) consoles also lack in the are of moding, game editing, these are hugely popular today, and greatly extend the games lifespan, this is an area where consoles lack severely, and PC's shine. The ability to customise the game, PC's have it, consoles don't. Sought of like Linux in the OS world.
Most gamers I know don't know a dime about adjusting systems effectivelyhmmm, then you know a different sought of gamer than I do. Maybe true for the casual gamer. But most hard core gamers that I know, know how to make there machines fly, know the internals of there PC's inside out, know all about configuring, editing files, getting there hands dirty.
Hope I didn't offend anyone, no offence was intended, sorry for dribbling on incoherently for so long, just that I keep seeing certain reasons why Linux is/should be prefered over Windows, Virus's Spyware, stability etc, and in my experience, well, I never experienced that, quite the contrary, it's just so foreign to me.
I feel better now.
Linux/Mandriva FTW !!!
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No, I open it after.
I had this with 2006 as well, while I was messing around with it, I found that some installs it would work fine, next install it would show the signs I describe above. My other machine has 2007 installed on it as well, although it is the PowerPack version, (that should't matter) but it works fine in this regard.
oh, and yes, konqueror.