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yes, good one, how about this, is it les dominating now?

Yep, tried that some weeks ago - the result was a bit confusing, so I stick with basic colours, I thought. My temporary 0.02beta version (of the logo) is now on my web site, with frame, I made a frameless too. here the logo on my website

Most simple would be this, what do you think?

And now I see that it's possibly still too much. Will try another one, only the letters.

Ahh, thanks to both of you. - And while playing with fading in and out and in, I suddenly knew what I didn't like. It's too much in there for a simple logo. The circle, the light-blue in the circle, the rainbow, the circle shadow and the term 'Rainbow', and the frame. So I went back to a different concept which is already in my wallpaper, made a logo out of it:

I am trying to make a logo for my Rainbow CD. Running out of ideas, and struggling with The Gimp. Look at my avatar - that's what I made so far. But I am not really happy yet. Want it to be simple, clear, has to fit into/contrast with the grey-white look of the LiveCD. Any ideas?

cool, anon

I made some progess. The CD now running kernel 2.4.23-2.tmb.2mdk, KDE 3.1.5, more KDE goodies. I'll keep my direction to stay 100% compatible with 9.2, so that the later installed system is ready tu use the normal urpmi sources. With the recent cvs version of mklivecd I was able to add extra files to the cd, so that a user can browse some help files on the cd before starting the pc. Very sweet. vfat and ntfs partitions now mounted at win_c, win_d and so on. I had the chance to test it on some computers at work, p III, 966 mhz, 128 mb ram, 4 (!) MB video card onboard (Intel something), onboard sound (Intel something). I didn't expect it to work - but it does, a bit slow but usable. - In the weekend it will be tested on a colleagues newest Asus Laptop (2 months old), wlan - I want the wlan working without too much configs afterwards.

Thanks, SoulSe, coverup and others for your compliments. Just a few words here: I don't plan a new distro :lol: I've started to play with the mklivecd thing, and had a result. Important for me was to share the knowledge: how do you do this? At the moment I am translating the English HowTo into German, and I've added this stuff to my website. And sending the livecd to a German friend who will test it and give it to other testers. The best approach for new Linux user is to start with the normal Mandrake 9.2 edition, or with PCLinuxOS. My personal oppinion. All I did was *using* Mandrake 9.2. The *Rainbow* thingie only came in there because I own the domain rainbowlinux.org (I always wanted to have a own domain, lol). Question: anyone tried the mklivecd scripts? Any results? - I am feeling a bit alone, would love to see at least 3 more ... :D

I never had the menu bug - very frustrating But did not know WHY? Tried to remember what I did. Thought it could be this step mentioned above. When I installed my parallel system for the live cd, I tested it and it worked. But I didn't know that until last weekend.

we love you, anon!

Here are some new screenshots of my new attempt, different look, added a welcome message when starting the cd, added a install how to and the bootcodes: LiveCD screenshots

Update: Part 2 1. There is an easier way to build the cvs version, building rpm's, Jaco suggested to add the following to the HowTo: >Instead of building the rpm version with the normal make and install, I >would suggest that you add the "make rpm" command in your FAQ. Eg. >instead of doing a "make && make install", do a "make rpm && rpm -Uvh ><name>.rpm". > >This builds an RPM which you can install and upgrade as you get newer >versions from CVS. (It also makes it much easier to uninstall ;) This >works for both the mklivecd and livecd-utils packages. >Jaco Thanks, Jaco! 2. When you are building your LiveCD with the --keyboard=<whateverhere> option, and only in this case, there is a problem installing it later, because lilo is not written properly. No problem running the livecd though. Workaround at the moment: choose install lilo to / (not mbr) and modify lilo on your main system. You'll find an example above in Part 2. As mentioned it works fine when you create your livecd with the default us keyboard layout.

I've added Part 2 to the HowTo in Tips & Tricks. Meanwhile I've learned how to get rid of the 'Welcome to Mandrake Linux...' message while booting and replaced it. I've reduced the CD now to 196 MB, removed samba-client, deleted the huge ghostscript package (no pdf support now and printing stuff) the nasty way, and for the urpmi database for the cdrom's changed the hdlist.cz to synthesis.hdlist.cz, this is saving a lot of MB's, lol, but without touching the functionality of urpmi. I still have a full working kde with Koffice, multimedia, Xine and all mdk-tools and of course most command line tools. But now I need a little help. I just can't find a way to install or build a new bootsplash. The scripts in /usr/share/bootsplash, the config files in /etc/bootsplash - ok I've found them and used them, I *did* run mkinitrd and lilo - but no bootsplash. Someone knows a simple way to do this, I mean creating from a homemade .jpg a bootsplash? I'd need two: the Lilo-bootsplash (how to build it) and the image behind the boot messages. I already browsed the our board, lots of stuff, but didn't help.

HowTo part 2: using the newer version of mklivecd and livecd-install Get from a 9.2 contrib mirror - and install: cloop-utils busybox Go here to get the most recent mklivecd scripts: http://cvs.berlios.de/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/livecd/ --> 'Download tarball' Yes, now you need to work with sources and build them. Unpack it to your home dir, on the partition where you will run the mklivecd script. It will create a subdir: /livecd with 4 more subdirs, you only need the following two: /mklivecd and /livecd-utils. Open a terminal, as a user, navigate to /livecd/mklivecd. Run: $ make Su to root and run: # make install The mklivecd scripts are now installed. As a user navigate to /livecd/livecd-utils and run: $ make A new sub dir will be created: /dist There you'll find the file: livecd-install If you are not already on the partition which is the base for the creation of your new live-iso, then copy this file to it, to /usr/sbin/. This small file is your hd installer, which you can launch later on your livecd. - But your not yet done: this file needs: perl-QT-3.008 ... rpm libsmokeqt1-1.2.1-2mdk.i586.rpm Get them on a 9.2 contrib mirror. Install, you will be asked to insert your mdk cd, there are two more dependencies. Ok, now you should have a working livecd-install script. There are a lot of changes in the new mklivecd script: better hwdetect, different default settings, more kernel-versions (stock mdk kernel to 2.6.x, but not all are tested, you are on your own here, or read the discussion on the livecd-user or livecd-developper mailing list). Running and building the livecd iso. First run as root in a terminal: # mklivecd --help - and please read what are the defaults settings, what are the options to run the script. For example in this new version you need to specify: --kernel <version> --looptype clp All this is in a process of very fast and heavy development, so this might have already changed when you read this. And there are still bugs, with special hardware or the combination of special kernel versions with ReiserFS etc. And please keep in mind that I actually don't really know what I am talking about - as a newbie. I give you an example, how I ran the script with success: # mklivecd --verbose --root /mnt/spiel --kernel 2.4.22-21.tmb.1mdk --looptype clp --keyboard=de_nodeadkeys --fstab=rw,auto --splash=no livecd.iso --verbose Watch the script doing its work. --root /mnt/spiel Yeah - I am running the script now on may *main* system/partition. Here you tell the script the path to the *mounted* partition that will get compressed. If you are running everything on your new partition, skip this part. --kernel 2.4.22-21.tmb.1mdk The script wants to know the exact name of your kernel (on your new partition), if you are not running the standard mdk kernel --looptype clp Default is now a different looptype, something with squashfs, but I have not installed it, don't know what it is and how to do this. Here you specify the looptype cloop, which you do have installed. The other explanation you'll find in part 1 of the HowTo. Finished your livecd.iso? Burned it ? Booted? You want to test the installer? Step 1 Create a Linux Partition on your harddisk, ext3 should be fine a filesystem. Use MCC or cfdisk or fdisk. Format it. Create a swap. If you already have a Linux and swap partition you want to use/overwrite, then skip this. The installer only offers Linux partitions, not vfat or ntfs. Step 2 Login as root in your LiveCd. Run: # livecd-install You are guided graphically through the install process. At the end you will be given the choice to write the bootloader to / of the installed system or to the mbr, default is /. Choosing / would mean that you need to boot your main system and modify your mbr bootloader. My lilo-example for an added entry: image=/mnt/spiel//boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-21.tmb.1mdk label="spiel" root=/dev/hda8 initrd=/mnt/spiel//boot/initrd-2.4.22-21.tmb.1mdk.img append="devfs=mount splash=silent" vga=791 read-only More informations about the mklivecd project, screenshots of the hd installer, mailing lists and archives and more: http://livecd.berlios.de/ Jaco Greeff is the developper of these scripts :-)))

This is getting exciting :o This morning I made the next step, creating the LiveCD with a *working* graphical hd installer. I still can't believe this. booah, I have to hurry because my partner is coming back from a two days trip to Germany, and I am getting in trouble because of my linux 'obsession'. The LiveCD (232 MB big) - created with a different, the most recent cvs version (16.1.2004) of the mklivecd project incl. the livecd-install program. You boot off the cd, login as root to KDE, open a terminal, type: livecd-install A graphical installer will lead you in four steps through the install process. I've done this, install time: 10 minutes, 645 MB on hda8. Rebooted. And wowww - exactly the same system as on the cd, and everything is working out of the box, working fstab, working modules.conf, startup sound is: initiating startup sequence :D Having my own distribution now, I guess, yipppiieh. Where is bvc's Texas smiley ?? BTW: this is a very easy way to backup your system and re-install it in case you messed it up. Anon, sorry kernow, and Paul and all the others: should we make a special MUB Live and Install-CD? Just joking, the best IS Texstar's. My purpose was to create a very small CD. I have yet to learn how I can reduce it more. I'll try to write a 'HowTo Part 2' - how to do this if anybody is interested. I would like to encourage everybody with a little bit of time to try the livecd thing. If I (10 months linux experience and almost 50 years old) can do this, you'll be able too. AND IT'S FUN, believe me. Iphitus: wallpaper - GIMP 1.3.21, I am not familiar with image/paint apps in Windows. And Artee and bvc: can you remember, when you guided me through my first Linux install here on this board? Thanks!!!!

... and the wallpaper for bvc :lol: :

Browse: [About the FAQ Forum] [Table of Contents] [FAQs] [Contribute] [SI: Software Installation] SI-04: How To build your own Live CD with mklivecd? Step 1 Install a 'basic' Mandrake 9.2 (individual package selection, concentrate on one DE) on a separate partition. Or as the only OS on your PC, does not matter. You will need a ~5 GB partition. And a swap partition, you can use your already existing swap. 250 MB should be fine. Create one user with a password, and root of course. If you have a multi-boot box, tell the installer to write lilo to /, not to the mbr. Modify your lilo in your main install to call lilo in your new partition. Or do what you use to do in this case ;-) Step 2 Boot your fresh MDK. Run immediately menudrake - and choose menustyle - second choice: mandrake menu. Save it. Now you won't get the menu bug and you don't have to install all these updates. Get the following rpm's from a mdk 9.2 contrib mirror: kernel-tmb-2.4.22.21 busybox cloop-utils Get the latest stable cvs version of mklivecd (mklivecd-0.5.7-0....noarch.rpm) here: http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfi...p?group_id=1149 Install the kernel on the new partition. Urpmi or MCC. Uninstall the old kernel, dito. Reboot and make sure everything is ok. I had no problems. Install the rpms busybox, cloop and mklivecd on your new partition. Step 3 Remove all stuff using mcc-softwaremanagement, that you don't need. Hints: python, gimp etc. Don't remove the gnome-libs, mdk config tools need them. Check in a terminal how big your used space is: # df Hint: clean /usr/share/doc and /usr/share/man and /usr/share/wallpapers (~200 MB) Install additional stuff from contrib and plf etc. You iso should have a maximum of 700 MB to fit on a cd. Your used space should be < 1,7 GB. The compression rate is ~ 41 % Step 4 Make your desktop look nice. Configure everything - your live cd will look and behave almost exactly like your installed system. Don't forget to clean your browser cache, the cookies, your trash can ... stuff in your home dir, or the add. rpm's. Once again: # df Step 5 Open a terminal, su to root : # mklivecd --help Here you'll find all options to run the script. Most simple is: # mklivecd <name>.iso (where <name> is your choice) This will create an iso file in your current directory. This is what I am using: # mklivecd --verbose --keyboard=de --fstab=rw,auto --splash=no rainbow.iso Explanation: --verbose You can see, what the script is doing. Very nice! --keyboard=de Default is the US layout, so this is my keyb for the live cd. --fstab=rw,auto Default creates the script a fstab without mounting the partitions on the hd. This option creates a fstab with read-write mounted partitions, Windows and Linux part., exception NTFS (you have to mount it manually to an already set mount point) --splash=no This will create a live cd without the Mandrake bootsplash and the background while booting. I've set it this way to get rid of it. When you have your own bootsplash theme, and you want to use it, dont set this option. Default is with bootsplash. rainbow.iso This is the name of the iso file, that the script creates. Your choice. There are many options you can use like: writing the iso to a different partition, excluding dirs and files from the creation, using a different /tmp dir for the whole process ... One of the most interesting is: you can install the script to your *main* OS and not into the new partition, so you would build the iso from 'outside'. But I am not familiar with it. How long does it take: on a P4, 2 Ghz with 256 MB RAM and a swap of 250 MB it took me 7 minutes to create a 230 MB iso from a used space of ~600 MB. Step 6 Burn the iso - to a cd-rw (or cd-r). Or copy it to a different partition where you have your burning application. Step 7 Boot your cd. And tell us about it.

Thanks, anon! Hm, I learned to do this: yesterday afternoon til midnight, lol. Then I had my first working cd. The main problem is, that there is no documentation, howto for the mklivecd. So, time to write a step-by-step for average people like me, I guess. Should I do this in poor English? Here is a screenshot:

I dit it. I made my own LiveCD. It's an Internet, music and dvd/video cd. Based on MDK 9.2 it comes with: KDE 3.1.3/4 KOffice, Kwrite, Kedit Kmail, Knode, Ksirc, KBear,KGet Konqueror with Flash Kview.Kuickshow, Ark and some more ... Kmix, Kscd, Konsole Kaffeine and Xine incl. all libs and codecs Plastic-theme (grey-white) All MDK config tools (drakes) and MCC Linux and Win-partitions are mounted. kernel-tmb-2.4.22.21 (from contrib) de-keyboard, de-localization 230 MB on the CD. Very fast. Flying on my system: P4, 2 Ghz, 256 MB RAM, Geforce4 64 MB. When booting from my cd-rw drive, I am able to watch dvd's on my dvd-drive. Playing all music files from the hd partitions. Internet is up and running without config (dhcp, router here) I've tested the cd on our second box at home, quite different hardware: TFT screen, voodoo card, 128 MB RAM - and it's fine too. Hardwaredetect. I've made the iso and the cd with the script of the mklivecd-project (Jaco and Texstar). I have only one computer with one harddisk, and one swap partition 250 MB. I made the iso from a additonal separate partition ( besides my main mdk 9.2 and win xp) on it where I installed a basic MDK 9.2 with KDE only, removed a lot of stuff, added kaffeine from contrib, libs and codecs from PLF, plastik-theme from contrib. I had to replace the standard kernel (didn't know that this would be so easy) to make it work. Finally I had around 600 MB on this 4-gb partition. The mklivecd script reduced this to a 230 MB iso-file. Only 7 minutes to create the iso!! One year ago I've only heard about Linux - and now I am able to make my very own, personal Linux system. Thank you all - over there, out there - on mandrakeusers.org. I've learned here so much!! It's really fun!

Congrats, SoulSe - and have fun with your camera. In MDK it is done by 'hotplug' and 'dynamic' (dynamic-0.10-1mdk) - rpm's are there. Take a look at: /etc/hotplug and /etc/dynamic - a lot of scripts. Can't help with Gentoo.

Thanks anon and bvc ... The web album incl the thumbnails: using gthumb - there are some nice templates (in my case the theme is: NeatRound) build-in, you just highlight the images you want, click on tools - create webalbum, choose a template, some text .. and you are done. I like gthumb. Newest version 2.2.0 for MDK 9.2, chip cuccio's rpms: http://norlug.org/~chipster/rpm_index.pxml?cat=4 And the KDE default version MDK 9.2 now has a similiar add-on for Konqueror. Is is not installed by default, but on the cd: kdeaddons-konqimagegallery. Copy your images to a sep dir, navigate to this dir, click on extras - create gallery. You have some options there: fonts, text, background color etc. Very nice too.

I made some wallpapers with The Gimp, black, white, grey -- selfmade, not stolen http://home.tiscali.nl/berenstraat/mdktest.../wallpaper.html

Andrewski, I am using checkinstall on 9.2, no problems here. - The checkinstall version I am using is from the 9.2 contrib mirror - I think (not sure) I had to install automake - The new checkinstall version behaves a little different, for me. The last step: su to root, then 'checkinstall' is only creating the rpm-file, saving it in /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/... (here the arch...) - Then I have to install the rpm. I am using urpmi after copying the file to a certain dir in my home dir which I use as a urpmi source.

Info apt-get for SUSE: http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/home.html#filecontents example sources.list: http://ftp.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de/pub...-i386/examples/ Browsing the sources on: http://ftp.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de/pub.../SuSE/9.0-i386/ Looks like all the nice apps are there. Does it work? I am not a SUSE user.