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I don't really understand what you're trying to say, but perhaps this is a start:
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Well, seems like with the previous newsitem I even beat /. to it (hmm, perhaps I should've posted myself? Nah), so I'm taking my chances with this one.
http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/...esoft/news/2426
This is the kind of announcement I'd always like to see from a Linux distro vendor or PC builder/seller. :)
Darkelve
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This thought also haunted me...
I'm relatively new to Linux, but I always considered starting a Linux-based internet café in my home town. It's steadily becoming a real city and there isn't anything remotely like it yet, save for a few computer centers (compare it with a simple LUG building where geeks meet and game and where lessons are given). These aren't in the center of town, however, and have no interest in acting as a café.
So my question is:
- what software would be needed
I'm thinking of Browsers -Mozilla, Opera, ... -, Firewall (freely available or commercial), Chat and messaging clients -Gaim, Licq, KSirc - , a couple of games - (the cube?), (quake?), (Wolfenstein?)- an e-mail program - evolution or Kmail -
- What hardware would be needed (say for a 8-16 machines)
I'm guessing there would be need for 1 system to act as a mail/ftp/whatever-server, the rest connected to that system.
- Is configuration straightforward? E.g. I am thinking of zeroconfig as a way to easily setup such a small network.
- Broadband: ADSL or Cable?
- Will it cover the costs? What is the best way to charge?
If there is one question I do not need to answer anymore, it is that Mandrake will be perfect for the job ;)
Darkelve
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Don't waste time on the opera forums, there is a "LOT" of traffic in the news-groups compared to the web forum.
Well, as far as my experience goes, help on the Opera Forums is:
1. Fast: you could expect an answer to your question within 1 or 2 days.
2. Friendly: the people are very supportive, and there are no flame wars to dig through.
3. Obviously a good place to ask technical questions about Opera, since the moderators are people working there, and they help out too.
As for the 'waste your time' part, it is entirely possible to waste your time there ;) but only because of your own discipline (or lack therof).
Darkelve
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... or you could check out the Opera Forums:
There is a special 'Opera for Linux' section in these forums.
O yeah, one more thing:
be careful not to get addicted to it :shock:
Darkelve
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sud_crow,
About your sig:
tecnically, to get a BSOD on Linux, you should -I think- be using Win4Lin. I think Wine(X) will just crash without the beautiful blue. I could be wrong though...
Nevertheless, even if you succeed in getting a BSOD, your system won't hang like it used to. It's just not the same... :lol:
Darkelve
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My D: drive is in fact a second FAT32 partition. (1st partition Fat32 w. system install: 1,5GB (c:), primary ; 2nd Fat32 partition, 6GB, primary ) I wanted to take 3 GB off of the 6GB partition to make room for a Linux ext2-partition and did so by Pmagic.
Yes, windows still works, but the directory and file names are garbled and when I check the drive in explorer, it says the partition is 6GB big, with 650MB free space left. In fact, it's not 6GB big (should be 3GB), cause I used part of it for my Linux partition. Maybe it's because win98 does not recognize the ext2-partition?
Strangely enough, when you give another name to the drive in the explorer, all folders disappear. Adding other folders and files is also no problem from hereon.
Could this be I suffered some data loss because of fragmentation (for I believe that drive was quite severely fragmented)?
I will try to reinstall Linux and let the bootloader take care of it.
One more thing: first, I set the Linux partition as a logical partition. Now it seems a bootable partition should be primary. Perhaps also a possible explanation?
Darkelve
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Ok, so the install went quite smoothly, except for the setup of the screen (it's a vibrant LCD monitor). I choose for Xfree4 and the 'vga' module (did not really know what to choose, but this seemed an acceptable choise at the time). Still don't know if it works though, cause I can't boot Linux, which leads me to the next problem:
- Windows98 boots instead of the Lilo boot loader! That's not what I wanted...
- Furthermore, the 'D-drive' in windows now contains all kinds of crap (kind of like folders and file names that look like Chinese or... something). I'm worried something got wrong when I used partitionMagic to resize it from 6 GB to 3 GB and create a 3GB ext2-partition for Linux
- I installed using an installation boot floppy, plus CD-roms. Wat I figured would be an easy install is turning into a nightmare...
Need help... :(
Darkelve
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Anyone know when a version for Mandrake will come out?
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Hello.
By the way, WinXP doesnt need to be on a master drive, that was with the 9x series, and i didnt got right that of Fat32 instead of NTFS, Linux cant see a NTFS partition?
thank you very much!!
On that subject: I do know that Linux *can* see NTFS partitions, only not write to it. Well, it can, but writing to NTFS is still experimental, so probably dangerous.
Darkelve
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Ok, I'll go with 9.1
What I am also worried about, is the font rendering on the LCD screen. It looks really bad during install. Of course, you can probably configure it later, but what is the best way to do it then? (Mandrake Control Center, Editing a config file, some arcane console command, .... ?)
Darkelve
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USB is giving me headaches. I don't bother with it anymore. It only makes for system freezes and more headaches. Everything else runs just smoothly.
Can we expect improvements in this area in the near future?
Darkelve
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Hi,
I want to help some people out of their computer trouble by installing Mandrake 9.1. They got Windows 98 installed on it, but it keeps crashing, responding very slow - in other words, it's not stable at all. So I'm going to do them a favour by installing something (dual boot-wise) which *is* stable.
I do not have the complete specs, however, most of it is pretty standard hardware, save for the monitor (va...something... variant?? LCD screen) and the scanner (read on the net that is is partially supported). Anyway, the scanner, I can try later.
The system: box with 10GB of HD and 128MB Ram; Intel Pentium Processor (II or III, I think it is 266Mhz). I made an ext2 partition of 3GB on the disk, that is all I can practically spare. There's no 3D card. The screen is a flatscreen LCD monitor with a maximum resolution of 1024*768. The fonts look ugly, almost unreadable in the Mandrake Installer.
I am thinking of installing only Gnome and IceWM as window managers, dropping KDE alltogether. I do not know what this will do for the availability of applications though.
I have the option of either installing Mandrake 9.1 (downloaded CD's), or installing Mandrake 9.0 (PowerPack). Maybe 9.0 would be lighter on the system??
I need to make it look/feel as much like windows as I can (yeah yeah, I don't like it eiter, just trying to be realistic here), or otherwise I think it will be hard to bridge the gap, because the people are not really technical. The WManagers also have to be light.
--- Needed ---
*Office
- Openoffice (not too heavy? Maybe Kword or Abiword would be better?), File Manager (thinking of nautilus or Gnome-commander), dropping Mozilla and instead installing a lighter one (Opera?).
- Calculator
- (very) simple but handy calendar. Korganizer: way too complicated/complete.
- Notepad-alike: I suppose Gedit would do fine.
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* Internet and Mail
- Modem is the Alcatel Speedtouch Modem (*not* the Alcatel USB, I believe) with a dial-up internet connection.
- Browser: Opera?
- Mail client: Evolution? Kmail? Sylpheed?
- Messaging: GAIM, Licq
* Multimedia:
- Xmms
- Light but versatile video player
* Games:
- Card games
- Board games
- Billiards (foobillard ?)
Any essential apps I forgot? Machine does not have a CD-writer. Only hardware are keyboard and mouse (both work), CD-ROM, flatscreen LCD monitor and scanner.
The goal is to set up a stable machine, give the user an auto-login, never root access (although he should be able to shut off without root access), that looks as good (or nearly) as windows 98, but has better performance and no crashes, while providing all the applications currently used under windoze.
I'll be starting installation tomorrow evening, so I'd be happy to hear your tips 'fore I screw up ;) .
Darkelve
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Static,
I got a DVD/Rom (bootable CD) on my machine. Does that mean I can install using this one DVD?
Would be real neat, and it sure would beat all those CD-switches when installing things.
Darkelve
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I haven't bought any Linux box set since MDK 7.1, so all my printed docs are a bit out of date. Now if only I had some money.....
It is kind of expensive. Then again, knowing these guys it could be well worth it. I'm kind of doubting myself.
Darkelve
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Unfortunately, I have to use KDE and I'm still looking for a solution to get my extra keys and MX500 mouse buttons to work.
Strange, I use KDE myself and I got it working... save for a few keys, and I think that has more to do with the difference between Desktop Manager and Applications than anything else.
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?We need some kind of trustworthy computing initiative for the open-source community.?
Rant: Eeeuw... what are they gonna think of next? Patenting algorithms and business methods?
Brain: sound an awful lot like the 'trustworthy' computing initiative M$ launched. First of all, as a lot of people have pointed out, m$ is not to be trusted. Second, there is no real proof that this 'trustworthy' computing initiative will actually lead to improved security. Not that they shouldn't work on it :s , but I'm sure they are too busy trying to take away our rights.
Darkelve
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"Building Linux applications".
It really teaches you that??
That would be swell, for I'd love to start programming/building simple apps for Linux (just started to learn C++). Or do they just mean 'compiling from source'??
Darkelve
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Well, I hate to spoil the fun of all you tweakers ;) , but I found a program on freshmeat.net that does just that: making use of your multimedia keys.
Go to http://www.freshmeat.net/ , search for the program 'ACME', then unpack and run it.
I got most of my keys working, except the 'stop/pause/play' buttons under XMMS. I figure those keys will only work in KDE and not in any programs running on top...
Darkelve
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I placed the 'probeal ...' line back to its original place to see what happens. During boottime, it says the USB filesystem is successfully mounted. And now, there is an entry (directory I believe) for USB in /proc again.
Yet it still crashes whenever a plug in a USB device. I believe it also says something about it having loaded 'OHCI'.
Any ideas? Cause I'm out of them.
Darkelve
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Hi, I got the output from lsmod, like you asked, but also included the output from dmesg, which it seems is another good analysis tool.
Output from LSMOD:
[root@localhost wouter]# lsmod
Module Size Used by Tainted: P
sr_mod 16920 0 (autoclean) (unused)
floppy 55132 0 (autoclean)
nvidia 1592928 10 (autoclean)
i810_audio 26248 0
soundcore 6276 0 [i810_audio]
ac97_codec 12488 0 [i810_audio]
af_packet 14952 0 (autoclean)
8139too 17160 1 (autoclean)
mii 3832 0 (autoclean) [8139too]
ohci1394 19048 0 (unused)
ieee1394 45900 0 [ohci1394]
nls_cp850 4316 2 (autoclean)
vfat 11820 2 (autoclean)
fat 37944 0 (autoclean) [vfat]
nls_iso8859-15 4092 3 (autoclean)
ntfs 76812 1 (autoclean)
supermount 15296 3 (autoclean)
ide-cd 33856 0
cdrom 31648 0 [sr_mod ide-cd]
ide-scsi 11280 0
scsi_mod 103284 2 [sr_mod ide-scsi]
prism2_usb 69776 0 (unused)
p80211 22156 1 [prism2_usb]
usb-ohci 20584 0 (unused)
usbcore 72992 1 [prism2_usb usb-ohci]
rtc 8060 0 (autoclean)
ext3 59916 1
jbd 38972 1 [ext3]
[root@localhost wouter]#
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Output from DMESG
I have minimal knowledge about Linux, but the parts that seemed strange to me, I put an asteriks (*) in front of them
Output:
Found and enabled local APIC!
Initializing CPU#0
Detected 1670.481 MHz processor.
Console: colour dummy device 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 3335.78 BogoMIPS
Memory: 255756k/262064k available (1410k kernel code, 5920k reserved, 1118k data, 136k init, 0k highmem)
Dentry cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Inode cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
Buffer-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: L2 Cache: 256K (64 bytes/line)
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
CPU: After generic, caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff 00000000 00000000
CPU: Common caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff 00000000 00000000
CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2000+ stepping 02
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
enabled ExtINT on CPU#0
ESR value before enabling vector: 00000000
ESR value after enabling vector: 00000000
Using local APIC timer interrupts.
calibrating APIC timer ...
..... CPU clock speed is 1670.4796 MHz.
..... host bus clock speed is 267.2766 MHz.
cpu: 0, clocks: 2672766, slice: 1336383
CPU0<T0:2672752,T1:1336368,D:1,S:1336383,C:2672766>
mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch (rgooch@atnf.csiro.au)
mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel
ACPI: Subsystem revision 20030122
ACPI: Disabled via command line (acpi=off)
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf1690, last bus=2
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: ACPI tables contain no PCI IRQ routing entries
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
PCI: Using IRQ router default [10de/01b2] at 00:01.0
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Initializing RT netlink socket
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16)
Starting kswapd
VFS: Disk quotas vdquot_6.5.1
devfs: v1.12c (20020818) Richard Gooch (rgooch@atnf.csiro.au)
devfs: boot_options: 0x1
vesafb: framebuffer at 0xf0000000, mapped to 0xd0800000, size 65536k
vesafb: mode is 800x600x16, linelength=1600, pages=2
vesafb: protected mode interface info at c000:e6b0
vesafb: scrolling: redraw
vesafb: directcolor: size=0:5:6:5, shift=0:11:5:0
Looking for splash picture.... found (800x600, 25593 bytes).
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 80x16
fb0: VESA VGA frame buffer device
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with HUB-6 MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
* Redundant entry in serial pci_table. Please send the output of
* lspci -vv, this message (134d,7892,134d,0001)
* and the manufacturer and name of serial board or modem board
* to serial-pci-info@lists.sourceforge.net.
* register_serial(): autoconfig failed
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 32000K size 1024 blocksize
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00beta-2.4
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
NFORCE: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:09.0
NFORCE: chipset revision 195
NFORCE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xb800-0xb807, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xb808-0xb80f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
hda: MAXTOR 4K080H4, ATA DISK drive
blk: queue c03cb420, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff)
hdc: SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-616T, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdd: ASUS CRW-3212A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: host protected area => 1
hda: 156301488 sectors (80026 MB) w/2000KiB Cache, CHS=9729/255/63, UDMA(33)
Partition check:
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 < p5 p6 p7 >
md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27
md: Autodetecting RAID arrays.
md: autorun ...
md: ... autorun DONE.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
IP: routing cache hash table of 2048 buckets, 16Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 16384 bind 32768)
Linux IP multicast router 0.06 plus PIM-SM
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
Freeing initrd memory: 108k freed
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
Mounted devfs on /dev
Journalled Block Device driver loaded
kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
Mounted devfs on /dev
Freeing unused kernel memory: 136k freed
spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7.
Real Time Clock Driver v1.10e
usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
usb.c: registered new driver hub
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 00:02.0 to 64
usb-ohci.c: USB OHCI at membase 0xd4932000, IRQ 10
usb-ohci.c: usb-00:02.0, PCI device 10de:01c2 (nVidia Corporation)
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
hub.c: USB hub found
*hub.c: 3 ports detected
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 00:03.0 to 64
usb-ohci.c: USB OHCI at membase 0xd4934000, IRQ 10
usb-ohci.c: usb-00:03.0, PCI device 10de:01c2 (nVidia Corporation)
*usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
hub.c: USB hub found
*hub.c: 3 ports detected
*** usbdevfs: remount parameter error
EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.19, 19 August 2002 on ide0(3,6), internal journal
hub.c: new USB device 00:02.0-2, assigned address 2
* usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x8086/0x1111) is not claimed by any active driver.
init_module: prism2_usb.o: 0.1.16-pre5 Loaded
init_module: dev_info is: prism2_usb
usb.c: registered new driver prism2_usb
SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
Vendor: ASUS Model: CRW-3212A Rev: 1.0
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
hdc: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM drive, 512kB Cache, UDMA(33)
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
NTFS driver 2.1.1a [Flags: R/O MODULE].
NTFS volume version 3.1.
MSDOS FS: IO charset iso8859-15
MSDOS FS: Using codepage 850
MSDOS FS: IO charset iso8859-15
MSDOS FS: Using codepage 850
ohci1394: $Rev: 693 $ Ben Collins <bcollins@debian.org>
ohci1394_0: OHCI-1394 1.1 (PCI): IRQ=[5] MMIO=[ec000000-ec0007ff] Max Packet=[2048]
ieee1394: SelfID completion called outside of bus reset!
ieee1394: Host added: Node[00:1023] GUID[00e018000200d262] [Linux OHCI-1394]
8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.26
eth0: RealTek RTL8139 Fast Ethernet at 0xd4a00000, 00:e0:18:5d:84:61, IRQ 5
eth0: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8139B'
eth0: Setting half-duplex based on auto-negotiated partner ability 0000.
Intel 810 + AC97 Audio, version 0.24, 15:29:58 Mar 14 2003
PCI: Enabling device 00:06.0 (0005 -> 0007)
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 00:06.0 to 64
i810: NVIDIA nForce Audio found at IO 0xe000 and 0xe100, MEM 0x0000 and 0x0000,
IRQ 11
i810_audio: Audio Controller supports 6 channels.
i810_audio: Defaulting to base 2 channel mode.
i810_audio: Resetting connection 0
ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: 0x8384:0x7609 (SigmaTel STAC9721/23)
i810_audio: only 48Khz playback available.
i810_audio: AC'97 codec 0 supports AMAP, total channels = 2
0: nvidia: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 nvidia.o Kernel Module 1.0-4191 Mon Dec 9 11:49:01 PST 2002
Linux agpgart interface v0.99 © Jeff Hartmann
agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 203M
agpgart: unsupported bridge
agpgart: no supported devices found.
0: NVRM: AGPGART: unable to retrieve symbol table
inserting floppy driver for 2.4.21-0.13mdk
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 40x/40x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
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First of all, I got 4 USB ports, not three. 2 at the back of my case, next to the network cable port, and 2 in front, next to the firewire port.
Also, the line 'usbdevfs: remount parameter error' does not seem right to me. I hope I have encluded enough information in here to be helpful. I'd put in in an attachment, but that does not seem to be possible on these boards. Sorry if I cluttered your screen :o
On a side note, there are 2 books I am interested in to get to learn more about Linux:
"A Practical Guide to Linux" by Mark G. Sobell
"Peter Norton's Complete Guide to Linux" by Peter Norton (duh)
"Practical Linux" by M. Drew Streib (and a bunch of other ppl)
Can anyone recommend/comment on 1 of these?
Darkelve
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Well, I cannot find any 'probeall' command. I am guessing what you are referring to is 'modprobe' I removed the line that said
''probeall usb-interface usb-uhci usb-ohci ehci-hcd" (commented it out using # sign).
But now there is NO USB support at all! As soon as I try modprobe ehci-hcd or modprobe usb-ohci it freezes on me. When I issue modprobe usb-uhci it gives me an error, doesn't freeze though.
I also tried to mount /proc/bus/usb, only to discover there *was* no such directory.
mount -t usbdevfs usbdevfs /proc/bus/usb does not work either (I suppose you issue this to mount a filesystem before you can browse to it?).
the program USBview locks up also when I enable USB.
I'm kind 'a scared to experiment with this again. It always gives me a nasty 'system shutdown uncleanly' error when booting.
I'm using Mandrake for about 1/2 a year now, so I know how to try some things and give feedback. Unfortunately, I won't be able to make much sense of the error messages themselves... :(
Darkelve
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Hi,
*** A lot of background info , read if you have time/interest ***
I have been eagerly awaiting the XD2, which is available for free download now from their site/mirrors. However, installation seems a bit cloudy to me. My problem is that I cannot easily do networking under Linux, cause I have to lay a very clumsy cable then (I'm on wireless under windoze). So what I usually do is download the RPM's (prefer that, tarballs are ok too) under windoze, save it to a common FAT32-partition then install the RPM's under Linux.
I *did* find a bunch of RPM's for XD2 on the mirrors, but it does not go further than Mandrake 9.0. I don't want to download the whole lot just to discover it doesn't work with 9.1 because of some kernel or other compatibility problem.
However, there *were* a bunch of RPM files for Evolution 1.4; I downloaded them, and after some rpm -ivh (I used Kpackage for RPMs but I am turning more and more to the CLI for *simple* administration tasks) and figuring out the correct order in which to install them, I got myself Evolution 4.1 installed.
*** End of background info ***
So, actually I'm writing this post for 2 reasons:
1. Ximian Desktop 2 for Gnome is beautiful, plus offers a lot of improvements (e.g. font and M$-word import improvements under OpenOffice). If you like gnome and a clean and polished interface, I highly recommend getting it.
2. I installed Evolution correctly. Can anyone show me a way to install XD2 without connecting to the internet with WGET? Like downloading some RPM or Tarball?
Darkelve
Mandrake in HP's desktops
in Everything Linux
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Awww... come on, give us the sweet stuff! ;)