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Well, I recently have changed my setup to a RH 9 w/ LVM and ReiserFS. I was wondering, can I take one of my volumes and create LFS on it? I have installed Gentoo on upteen systems, yes, it can be UBbER fast. But at the price of a weekend. It doesn't work for me, you replace speed of system with speed of install base and any software, I don't care for it. Don't get me wrong, I think it is/can be a good distro but there is a lot of things that I don't care for. Plus, I know there are a lot of good Gentoo people in this forum, but Gentoo's forum is getting over crowded with wicked noobs that don't know anything about Linux and give some pretty bad advice to others just to see there number of post goe up. I like Debian/Libranet, Slackware, & even SuSE has a little place in my heart (one of my first distro's and I stuck with them for quite awhile). RedHat, was one of the first disto's I ever used and I have moved back to them to learn as much as possible. ONce I get the guts up to take the Solaris exams I will hit the RHCE. and want to be up to speed when that comes around. Pluse, RH is a stable distro that has decent security and can be locked up from there.

Just curious what you have against SuSE?

BTW, the E-250 is sitting under my desk w/ a Raptor GFX card. I have Solaris 9, Debian 3.0 and SuSE 7.3 installed on it. It's sort of like a glorified desktop! The engineers only seem to buy 280, 480 & V880's lately. A little over a month ago me and one other person had to install 22 V880 in a week, 2 per rack and all jumpstarted. For those of you that don't know, there about 400 LBS! ouch. That was a bad week. I haven't seen it yet, because I had knee surgery so I haven't been in the Data Centers but while I was off, the got in a 1280, I would like to see it. Anyway, that's a bit off topic. What's the topic anyway. You a funny wise guy! 8)

I have found through my RH usage lately that RH has some different CLI commands for different config scripts too. The good thing about learning RH's way of doing things is that a lot of big company's use it on there servers. With Red Hat Enterprise AS, ES & WS, they have a good support model. When company's use those products, I can't imagine your sitting at a GUI using RH GUI programs to manage them. More than likely you will be using the CLI to work them. Like I mentioned previously RH does have some different CLI commands and it's good to know them. I used to hate RH, sorry! But now I'm finding it to be a good solid DIstro. They have done quite a bit of Open Source Contributes. There LSB certified, a lot of people will say who cares about LSB, I would argue that and say company's CARE. People like standards, I'm not talking standards like Bluecurve ( which is sort of ugly) I'm talking files, programs. Read LSB's web site, that's the standards I'm talking about. With the use of apt-get for RH, there are a lot of repository's and RPM dependency's aren't a worry anymore. One thing I don't like about RH is there kernel, it's nice and all put they have jumbled it up so much, it's hard to add your own patches(someone else's patches) "Patches, we don't need no stinking patches" (I do!) :P SuSE appears to be making some very big steps, there taking Corprate Desktop and all of there Server platforms are looking pretty nice. "The Germans are coming the Germans are coming". Debian, is a nice distro too, I've been running Debian Woody on a SparcSation20 and it's perforemed pretty nice, I've also installed it on a Sun E-250 at work, (Don't tell my boss!) And I have toyed with Libranet 2.8 quite a bit and think those 2 guy's that run it have made a very nice Debian based distro. I also think Slackware is a Strong, Solid, Secure Distro (although 9 has more open holes than 8.1 and below.) But some of there scripts are more BSD like than they way more Linux distro's do things. I don't know, I like to run Slack, but I'm affraid I will do things there way and forget the RH way of doing things. Anyway, I'm going on and on about some pretty stupid stuff. It's pretty sad when a company can control so much commercialization to coax you into using there product. IBM, HP, Sun, Dell, you name it they promote RH quite a bit. It's a shame, but in away I also applaud them for there effort in help making Linux known through out the WORLD. Please excuse all the miss spelling, gramer, run on sentences and what not, I came from a small town in the midwest with a graduating class of 24, I didn't care for English classess. Computers were the only thing that could hold my attention. P.S. I think a lot of use Computer GEEKS suffer from A.D.D or something similar. Anyone agree? :lol: Later,

A 3 button mouse could alway's help! http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/store/purchase.php 8)

Oh, Why do you want to go back to an old kernel? If it was a RH kernel, I would keep it because of bug & security fixes! If it's because you already had NVIDIA drivers working and lost them after the kernel update, that's normal. When you upgrade or make any change to the kernel you will need to install he NVidia drivers again. Not hard, just one of the things you have to do.

1.) Go to: http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=linux_di...y_ia32_1.0-4363 2.) Download: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4363.run 3.) From the command prompt as "root" type: # /sbin/init 3 4.) This will kill X and drop you to just the Command Line, after that go to the "dir" where you downloaded the Nvidia Driver. And issue the following command as "root" # sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4363.run 5.) Follow the instructions, when it is done without error, do the following as root: # vi /etc/X11/XF86Config **You will need to edit the following section, hope you know how to use vi.** Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "nv" VendorName "Videocard vendor" BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 4 (generic)" VideoRam 131072 ********************************************************** Change the Driver "nv" to "nvidia". Once your done with all of that, issue the following command as root. # /sbin/init 5 6.) If you did everything right, NVIDIA splash screen will show up and you will be able to login and have FPS out the wazauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu! Have fun!

I think I might put Red Hat on my main system. Keep Debain Sparc on my sparcstation. & maybe through Libranet 2.8 on my laptop. That way my fun little libranet system get's use and I stay up with Debian in two way's & get used to all of Red Hat. Thanks for your input, keep posting if you think of anything else. Would LFS really be hard to put on a Pentium 200mhz? Not hard, but more time consuming and slow.. I have used Gentoo on several occasions starting with 1.2, but while there is some configureing. You do loose some Linux basic's since "emerge" pretty much does everything for you. All probably get smashed for that one, and yes I also think apt does the samething. LFS would be good from the standpoint of all source is what you make it, not what portage or apt will do.

It's not that I don't understand Linux, like I've said I have pretty much used everything but LFS for the last four years, I use Solaris at work so understanding and using *nix isn't all that difficult for me. I understand CLI just fine. The meat of the question is what would be better in the REAL world, meaning CORPRATE USA.

Did you go back to MD or are you still using Lib BVC?

9 views and no POST, come on people help me out here.

Oh, not that it matters but it is a major distro. I've also ran Slackware 7-9. Currently to, I do work with Solaris so it's also helpfull when the distro is somewhat similar. And yes I've ran Free & OpenBsd too.

I've been thinking lately (yes it hurts). Anyway, here's the deal. I've been using Linux pretty non-stop for that last 4 years and I switch around a lot. I've used SuSE the most, Mandrake, Redhat, Gentoo, Libranet & Debian. And most every budy else. But here's the question. Which Distro do you all think is the best to learn the complete INs-OUTs of? I realize they're all alike in many ways, but some have some major differences. As-far-as learning one more than the rest, say for a JOB. If you go to Monster.com, do a search for different Distros, Red Hat clearly takes the cake. BUT, I've never really liked Red Hat, I didn't like MD until 9.1 and I used SuSE from 6.3 - 8.2, Gentoo 1.2-1.4_rc4. Debian 2.2 & 3.0 (currently running that on an old Sun SparcSation20!) I've grown pretty favorable of Libranet 2.8 since I've been using it over the last 2 weeks. But the question linger's in my head all the time, should I run Red Hat just because it's probably the bigest in the Corp. World? We can all argue that untill were Blue in the face, but Red Hat is the big one here in America anyway. So please, HIT this question hard and give me your thoughts and idea's... THANK YOU, To bad we can't poll this question??

After talking with BVC last week and reading several articles I decided to take the plung and BUY a Linux Distro, (not the first time, I have several SuSE box's laying around). Anyway, The install was easy and straight forward. Nvidia ti_4200 128MB video card was detected and 3d was a go. CDR & DVD player were correctly configured . Soundblaster Live was configured with the Correct Driver (Mandrake if you don't pay attention use's audigy instead of emuk01, which doesn't work). ATI TV Wonder VE card was detected and setup. Finally a Debian distro that would do it all, I like it a lot too. As BVC mentioned, packages, more than you need. (I have cable modem, sorry bvc!) So upgrades are a snap. Libranet 2.8 uses Debian Sarge tree which is a testing tree, one step over Woody(stable) but one under the unstable branch called SID, but you can alway's change your apt.sources to reflect SID and be as bleeding edge as you want. I have tested just about every distro out there including Gentoo, and I think after all these years I might just stick with Debian/Libranet.... Anyway, if you can check it out, I don't think you will be disappointed.

Well Dolson, I bought Libranet today and I'm about done downloading it. Will be giving Debian another Go, A little easier, but none the less up-to-date Debian that I have read from a couple differnet places seems to be a bit faster than MD. I had Gentoo up the last couple of day's, but I'm tired of installing it and waiting for ever to get KDE or Gnome. or pretty much anything. It is sweet the power and control you can have, but it doesn't speed up that much "WIth great power comes great responsibility!" (Spiderman's Uncle) Over the last year, I thrashed 2 (maybe 3) Gentoo systems up with some accidental screwups. With the time it takes to install, that gets old real fast. I probably should know better, but I human and make mistakes time and again. Oh well, see you on the other side (DEBIAN) :arrow:

Here it is. http://digilander.libero.it/winehqitalia/

Thanks Dolson, I forgot your a Debian user. Hows that working out for you?

Is there a winesetuptk for Mandrake or do I need to google for it? SuSE use's it by default and it works pretty nice.

Just curious, you said it was pretty expensive so I didn't think you would buy it :!:

I have a subscription to WIneX, and have the latest one so far haven't got much to work. Anyway, I've heard HL counter strike works with WINE. Once I apt-get install wine to the latest, what's the best way to setup wine?

Dolson, Did you try VMWARE after I emailed you?

In case anyone else runs into this, it appears that ftp.ibiblio.org is been changed. I went fishing around on there site and it www.ibiblio.org get's redirected : www.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu So if you use APT, change your /etc/apt/sources.list to rpm http://www.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/Linux/d...contrib/texstar apt/Mandrake updates texstar os rpm-src http://www.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/Linux/d...contrib/texstar apt/Mandrake updates texstar os This is for MDK 9.1 Thanks,

Nothing seems to work except to put the: rpm --rebuild --target athlon *.src.rpm

Let me clear that up a little more, which route did you go? /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc vs. /etc/rpmrc vs. ~/.rpmrc

So you created the .rpmrc file and just use: --target athlon And that will do the trick? I'll have to give it a try when I can.