jlc

Might be better to do: emerge -f <something> first, downloads all and then install it. p3@450 + kde = 2 weeks

Thus confirming I'm still a & user :unsure:

ahem - cough - cough etch

I think your right, about both! :lol:

cd /etc/yum.repos.d/ vi freshrpms.repo [freshrpms] name=Fedora Linux $releasever - $basearch - freshrpms baseurl=http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/$releasever/$basearch/freshrpms gpgcheck=1 enabled=1 rpm --import http://freshrpms.net/packages/RPM-GPG-KEY.txt yum --exclude=*\debug\* install xine xine-lib *\libdvd\* gstreamer-plugins* ;)

Yes, buy me one please ;)

I gave him that site on irc a few nights ago ;) It is a very good site for hardware, that's how I picked most of my parts!

SATA2 is supposed to be faster, but all the people are claiming 3Gb/s isn't actually true. ;) http://www.sata-io.org/namingguidelines.asp I use SATA150 my self, but that might have been because SATA 2 wasn't out yet. Its backwards compatible so just go with 2 if your mobo supports it, just make sure the Hardrives are sata 2 or atleast have NCQ

I run 64bit fc4 on my 3200, and I love it :) With Fedora, has multilib so you can just install a 32bit browser for plugins. Not sure about mdk, but suse and gentoo both use multilib too.

:D Like I said too, if you combine rh/fedora based distros together than that puts gentoo in a 2nd/3rd slot for me. I would probably have to say 2nd since im a 64bit user and I don't like how debian handles multilib or I should say lack of it. :)

HEY! I said I like to bleed!!! B)

errr fc4

You mean that a "pacman" shouting "yum, yum, yum!" doesn't excite you, right? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nope, yum is tasty! Have a few probs with arch, last I check doesn't support softraid/lvm2 install, doesn't use gcc4.0 as default compiler with all compiled against it, doesn't have a destop targeted policy for selinux, doesn't have gcj with apps like eclipse, OOo compiled against it. Doesn't have a supported amd64 bit version. Other than that, it's pretty good.

It doesn't offer me anything exciting :P

Finally, a livecd that has the majority of wirelss drivers/firmware out there. Very cool cd, I'm typeing this from it right now on my laptop with a netgear WG511 root@2[knoppix]# lspci | grep -i net 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] (rev 78) 0000:03:00.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation Intersil ISL3890 [Prism GT/Prism Duette] (rev 01) root@2[knoppix]# iwconfig eth0 eth0 IEEE 802.11b/g ESSID:"NO!" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437 GHz Access Point: 00:0F:66:39:18:2A Bit Rate:54 Mb/s Tx-Power=31 dBm Sensitivity=20/200 Retry min limit:8 RTS thr:2347 B Fragment thr:2346 B Encryption key:CAN'T TELL YOU! Security mode:restricted Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 As soon as my other lappy get's done doing some work, i'll boot the cd on it. ipw2200g Plus it has all the goodies. Built off of kantonix/knoppix Auditor Release info. Change Log ipw2100.iso The one I'm using: no-ipw2100.iso - all other wireless cards Happy Hacking! 8)

IMHO, the only reason to do a stage 1, is if you want to change the default toolchain. Using a higher gcc/glibc, other wise, do a stage 3. If your new to gentoo, do a stage 3, cause you might not know enough to be using higher gcc/glibc versions anyway. ;) Like I said, install it have fun and see if you like it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I doubt Soulse was talking to me, cause I bash all distro's even my beloved Fedora! I think I'm qualified since i used it since 1.0-1.1a ish to the 2005 era, on x86, amd64, sparc32, sparc64, hppa & alpha. So i've been around the block a bit! 8)

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/hand...hap=6#doc_chap2 These are pretty much sane flags http://www.freehackers.org/gentoo/gccflags/flag_gcc3.html -O2 & -O3 are some trade offs, 2 will compile it faster, 3 will make it a little faster. If I remember correctly, most distro's use -O2, I beleive even like FreeBSD wont support in code that has been done with O3, I think anyway, could be wrong. Heck for that matter, if you have bugs in Gentoo and you show them your cflags and there all riced up, there going to throw it out too :) This is an example of what fc4/rawhide uses for default builds on i686 systems: optflags: i686 %{__global_cflags} -m32 -march=i686 -mtune=pentium4 -fasynchronous-unwind-tables %__global_cflags -O2 -g -pipe -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions FORTIFY_SOURCE is a great thing, I don't believe it was introduced until gcc-3.4.3 and I'm not sure what Gentoo's latest stable version is during the build, I would assume it's up to 3.4.3 by now. WARNING though! I wouldn't use it unless you want to take more time hunting down ugly code and pushing bugzilla's upstream. ;) http://www.redhat.com/magazine/006apr05/fe...rity/#gcc-glibc That actually might be interesting to compile Gentoo with the flags used in Fedora, which would be: -m32 -march=i686 -mtune=pentium4 -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -O2 -g -pipe -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions I'm not sure if the order , but I would assume you'll find out sooner than later. :P Edit: THis is from fc4 which uses gcc-4.0, so some of these might not work, I'm not + of about that. AFAIK, gcc-3.4.3+ and 4.0 share the same API so it is possible all these options were there in the 3.4.x , like I said, sooner than later. ;)

Ok, I guess you want something :P I've used gentoo for a long time from close to the beginning on several different arch's so I do have some experience with it. Optimizations/gcc - unless you start becoming a gcc dev, leave the special flags for them. Most people load there CFLAGS down with crap they have no idea what it is doing and going off of another person in a thread that has 10 post (must know whats up) :) If it's in i686 cpu, grab the stage 3, unload it and leave the CFLAGS alone. The majority of problems people run into are crazy flags. Check the gentoo forums and look for gentoo ricers. I do think gentoo can be a good os, I just don't think it is worth it for me, plus it's not bleeding enough. I haven't used it in awhile, i played around about a month ago, and it was just like when I left. I really think the quality has been going down, ebuild's are getting nastier. (not all, don't blow this into something it isn't) I just think a lot of it isn't as clean as it used to be. The communtiy can be good at times. For me: 1.) Rawhide 2.) FC4 3.) CentOS 4.0 4.) Ubuntu/Gentoo (kind of tied) 5.) Gentoo/Ubuntu (kind of tied) :) 6.) Debian 7..) slackware/arch Gentoo can be fun, go play with it and see what you think. Someone else mentioned having problems with grub. cp your current grub and if you keep the same partion layout, you shouldn't have a problem. Or just read through the grub guide and ask on forum.irc if you still have trouble. As far as were are you now from a year of Mandy, dunno know. Have you been using that crack pot mcc :D then you will have a little more troubles but nothing horrible. Just remermber, you can do the samething in all Linux Distro's And what ever Flags you use and unstable file systems, it still wont make it ubber elite.

http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/

Rawhide! :D

Now this is a sweet. Send to desktop trash from terminal http://gnome-hacks.jodrell.net/hacks.html?id=37 I could have used that some in the past

This is a great sight if you haven't seen it. http://gnome-hacks.jodrell.net/ http://live.gnome.org/PowerUserTools

Oh, to have a build tree for your user just do this su - yum install fedora-rpmdevtools exit back to your user and run /usr/bin/fedora-buildrpmtree

The problem your having with Java is because Fedora is the first to include gcj it's own native java compiler instead of using sun's java. Of course for now there are going to be problems getting compatibility and patches for programs that were written with Sun in mind. One of the Fedora Devel's (andrew greeen i think) is working on patches for azaurus. You can still use jpackage and grab there nosrc rpm for sun and grab sun's bin file and build that and install it. Doing it this way allows you to have both installed. And in case you're unfamiliar with JPackage, that's easy to do; a quick paraphrase of http://jpackage.org/rebuilding.php: 1. Download and install the nosrc rpm http://jpackage.org/rpm.php?id=2546 2. Put the Sun package in your rpmbuild/SOURCES 3. rpmbuild -ba rpmbuild/SPECS/java....spec 4. enjoy your RPMs in rpmbuild/RPMS/

All packages can be installed with yum. It's much much faster now too. another cool feature is "yum shell". And another package in extras, "yum-utils" # rpm -ql yum-utils /usr/bin/package-cleanup /usr/bin/repo-rss /usr/bin/repoclosure /usr/bin/repomanage /usr/bin/repoquery /usr/bin/yum-builddep /usr/bin/yumdownloader /usr/share/doc/yum-utils-0.2 /usr/share/doc/yum-utils-0.2/README