Guest Dr Forinor Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 Hi everyone, I'm very new to Linux, in fact, the first time I have actually seen it was 2 days ago when I installed it myself so you can take a guess how much experience I have with it. My problem is that I can't configure my modem, I have; "ESS ES56T-PI Data Fax Voice Modem" This is the error I get when finish the wizard to configure my modem; "/etc/resolv.conf is missing or cannot be read." Then then connection thing comes up where I can connect from, I click on connect and then I get this; The error title is "Error - KPPP" "Error = KPPP Kppp can not find: /dev/modem" What should I do? :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvc Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 Welcome! It's a winmodem that requires special drivers for it to work with linux. The only one I see is for the 2.2 kernel and mandrake uses 2.4. This means, if you can find the source, you'll have to compile for the 2.4 kernel. Hopefully someone is familiar with it and knows more. a google search http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-hardware...u/msg04135.html http://www.modemdriver.com/winmodems.htm Can you get a hardware modem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr Forinor Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 I didn't know it was a winmodem, makes more sense now why it isn't working, but this is a hardware modem. And I have NO idea whatsoever of how to compile a kernel... I' stumped, and I don't know anyone who uses Linux. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theYinYeti Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Don't loose hope! Some people here, I'm sure (but not me), just compile a kernel at breakfast, to begin the new day on a happy note :lol: Seriously, as long as you're able to connect, I'm sure you'll find help. It won't always mean a solution (sometimes, there's no solution, if hardware is not compatible), but I truly feel that people here are helpful. Yves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvc Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Then next questions are.... -what are your sys specs? -Are you willing to run on the 2.2 kernel instead of a 2.4, because you can install ML with the 2.2 instead of the 2.4 and start fresh. Then you just need to configure the module. I've never done just a module. I've always just compiled the kernel for anything I need. If you want to give it a shot....we're here to help :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr Forinor Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Then next questions are....-what are your sys specs? -Are you willing to run on the 2.2 kernel instead of a 2.4, because you can install ML with the 2.2 instead of the 2.4 and start fresh. Then you just need to configure the module. I've never done just a module. I've always just compiled the kernel for anything I need. If you want to give it a shot....we're here to help :) *clears throat" sys specs? You mean system specs? Why would I not run a 2.2 kernel? Whats the difference between 2.2 and 2.4? Am I running 2.4 now? Install ML? Configure module? Eh? :?: :? :shock: Honestly, I haven't a clue what you just told me there, I have been using windows and only windows for the last 5+years and only know how to use cos it's easy, no programming skills at all...... My system specs are (if that is what you meant by sys specs); Amd Athlon XP2000+ Gigabyte GA-7VRXP 512Mb DDR2100 RAM 40Gb IBM Deskstar GXP120 7200rpm 30Gb Fujitsu 5400rpm GeForce4 Ti4200 128Mb VIVO Soundblaster 1024! Live And the typical CD-RW, DVD and floppy drives. Ok, so I have a winmodem, why shouldn't this work then? Hasn't anyone (who is involved in the making of Linux) come up with something to make the winmodem compatible? Or am I just going off at tangents here? Again, any help appreciated and thanks for the help so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvc Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 *clears throat" sys specs? You mean system specs? Why would I not run a 2.2 kernel? Whats the difference between 2.2 and 2.4? Am I running 2.4 now? Install ML? Configure module? Eh? Sorry, let me slow down I d/k the diff between the 2.2 and 2.4. I've never ran anything but the 2.4. ML=Mandrake Linux Ok, so I have a winmodem, why shouldn't this work then?win=windows (software oriented, manipulative, tons of code), and you're trying it on linux (a real hardware based, transparent OS). Hasn't anyone (who is involved in the making of Linux) come up with something to make the winmodem compatible? I have a winmodem (I don't use) that works fine, and there are others. We call them linmodems=winmodems made to work with linux, but no, there's no way to make all winmodems work with a single module/driver. Actually it probably could be done for the most part but why take the time? Windows is the one doing the manipulation and getting away from the standards, to try and set the standard for it's own benefit. Yours does work but as I said, according to the link it's only for the 2.2 kernel. Usually, from what I understand about modules, you can compile/configure them to work with the 2.4. I myself find it hard to believe there's not one for the 2.4. I just did a quick google and found the above link. If you dig deeper you may find one for the 2.4....it's very hopeful someone has done it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr Forinor Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Ah, excellent, thanks a lot. Luv ya *ahem* :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannonfodder Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Another way to look at it is that (someone correct me if I'm incorrect) winmodems use software compression to speed up their transmission of data. Same amount of data but its compressed (resulting in greater data flow). This means they depend on window's device drivers to do the compression. standard modems (as in not relient on windows) also use data compression but use hardward compression. In other words, a chip within the modem does the work. I suggest that you either.. 1. Check out broadband (skipping the modem). If you are online or run more than one phone line then this is usually affordable and more time and cost effective than a modem on a second phone line. 2. Buy a modem that works for linux and windows. You can go to google and type in linux hardware compatibility to locate sites that list modems that work for linux. This may be a fast solution to your problem. 3. Learn linux well enough that you can compile a kernel (heart of linux) and add the code that would drive your modem. Think of it as a module that you are adding to your operating system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr Forinor Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 I suggest that you either.. 3. Learn linux well enough that you can compile a kernel (heart of linux) and add the code that would drive your modem. Think of it as a module that you are adding to your operating system. Any tips on how to go about doing this. This was the main reason I wanted to use Linux, though at the time I didn't know that this is what I would have to do. But I knew I wanted to use Linux in the way that it was meant to be used. If that is Kernel, then bring it on, lol. So, any sites that you know will be useful? I could try searching but I am assuming that since you are already into Linux that you know the best places to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anon Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 As you only installed Linux a couple of days ago, trying to compile your own kernel etc, is really "jumping off the deep end". If you can afford it, sugest you just get another modem. Take a look here: http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/hardware.php3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr Forinor Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 anon: I agree with you, it is very advanced considering I know zilch about Linux, never mind kernel, but, I want to learn. If that is the case, how would you say it would be best to learn? I suppose when I want to use the internet, I can just log in to Windows like I am doing now so the modem problem isn't really urgent. I suppose the quicker the better but the main reason is, shortage of cash. So I'd rather just wait until I can either figure it out for myself or find another solution. But thanks anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannonfodder Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 You can start by clicking on the yellow DOCS button above. It has some good tutorials. If you have linux on a separate drive from your windows it is better. Also gives you more freedom to experiment with partitions. There are zillions of tutorials on line. You can also type in linux and a topic to get specific results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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