m0loch Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 So...did an upgrade from 2008.1 to 2009 - it was pretty much a disaster but no sense going into that.... main issue is that with the removal of the laptop specific kernel from 2009 - the desktop kernel didn't work so well. First, the graphical init stuff didn't work, but not a big deal, I could live with it. More importantly are two issues that I would like to resolve if anyone knows how. 1) touchpad scrolling didn't work at all with the desktop kernel - root cause was the ol' "can't access shared memory" problem 2) amarok wouldn't play - no idea what that was all about, it would load music just fine and the sound system worked just fine (mpg123 for example would play mp3s ) - I simply booted to a previously working kernel and everything seems to be working. Surely there's more that's broken with the new desktop kernel, and I guess I could get the kernel source and compile my own - man, it's been a long time since I've had to do that to make things work. bring back the laptop kernel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw1974 Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Desktop kernel only allows up to 1GB of ram, also, which is why I use another kernel. On my laptop I have kernel-server, because I need to use 4GB of ram. Generally kernel-desktop seems only good for low-end machines, so I tend to recommend using something else and stick with that as it works for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Batson Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Desktop kernel only allows up to 1GB of ram, also, which is why I use another kernel. Not quite true. kernel-desktop586 only supports less than 1GB RAM (usually 870-900MB detected). kernel-desktop supports less than 4GB RAM (usually 3-4GB detected, depending on hardware) - same as kernel-laptop. http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Docs/Howto/Man...ferent_flavours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw1974 Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 If 32 bit, then you'll not see the full 4GB - like you mentioned, generally 3GB to 3.5GB but no more, unless PAE is enabled, and then you'll just slow your machine down rather than make use of the memory properly. I have 64 bit anyway, which is why the performance is better for me and I see the full 4GB without PAE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindwave Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 So...did an upgrade from 2008.1 to 2009 - it was pretty much a disaster but no sense going into that.... how did you perform your upgrade? DVD or URPMI ? I have the same model w/ 2008.1 PWP but havent upraded my subscription (yet) i wasnt ploanning on doing so yet, but maybe i need to j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0loch Posted October 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 how did you perform your upgrade? DVD or URPMI ? DVD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamw Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 David: that's not quite true either. :) In 2009, desktop586 supports up to 4GB, same as desktop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw1974 Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Hehe the kernel fight is on :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Batson Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 David: that's not quite true either. :) In 2009, desktop586 supports up to 4GB, same as desktop. Time to edit the wiki then... The different flavours kernel-desktop586 & kernel-desktop586-latest This kernel is compiled for desktop use, single or multiple i586 processor(s)/core(s) and less than 1GB RAM (usually 870-900MB detected), using voluntary preempt, CFS cpu scheduler and cfq i/o scheduler. It has HZ=1000, and tickless mode enabled. This kernel relies on in-kernel smp alternatives to switch between up & smp mode depending on detected hardware. To force the kernel to boot in single processor mode, use the "nosmp" boot parameter. This package exists only in the i586 branch. Installing the *-latest rpm ensures you always have the latest kernel-desktop586 installed. kernel-desktop & kernel-desktop-latest This kernel is compiled for desktop use, single or multiple i686/x86_64 processor(s)/core(s) and less than 4GB RAM (usually 3-4GB detected, depending on hardware) using voluntary preempt, CFS cpu scheduler and cfq i/o scheduler. It has HZ=1000, and tickless mode enabled. This kernel relies on in-kernel smp alternatives to switch between up & smp mode depending on detected hardware. To force the kernel to boot in single processor mode, use the "nosmp" boot parameter. Note that the memory reservation does not apply to the x86_64 branch (unless you hit a hardware restriction). This package exists both in i586 and x86_64 branch. Installing the *-latest rpm ensures you always have the latest kernel-desktop installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2 Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Time to edit the wiki then... It's in the wiki 2009.0 release notes: High memory support (up to 4GB) in kernel-desktop586 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw1974 Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Shall we have a vote for just providing one kernel that just simply does everything :unsure: You know, K.I.S.S and all that ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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