aRTee Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 I want to be able to run MSOffice components and Lotus Notes on wine, Mandrake 10.0 Official Edition. I have some problems with the setup, wondering how to do this that and the other. More precisely, I have trouble finding good guides, many things are conflicting. First, some say to steer clear from the Mandrake rpm/package, and download the standard version. Second, I have a system with win2k, C: on hda1 and D: on hda2 (or is it 5? anyway, both ntfs, read only) then Mandrake on hdb. Which of the tools should I use for setup? I installed wine and wine-tools, there is wineconf but it seems/says it doesn't really work yet... If I can make LN and MSOffice work, and mount the samba shares/connect to the smb servers, the head of the CAD department is likely to really push things... Should I try crossover office? Is it really much better? Hmm, questions, questions.. I'd rather have wine working, since then we don't incur any extra costs.... This is a major point. Please help out 1) by telling me your experience (with wine, wine compared to crossover office, etc) 2) by giving weblinks (howto's, articles or forums etcetc) 3) by giving direct advice Since I also have work to do, and can't read email under linux yet (can always use OOo, so that is less urgent), I'll still be under win2k for most of the time; I will see if I can boot into linux this evening and/or tomorrow morning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 aRTee As I understand crossover is no different to wine, the difference is in the preconfigured stuff. Notes client works very well according to a friend who uses it everyday. You just go through the setup.exe and it installs. Office works except Access .... However in other words corssover just makes the informaiton files and configs for each app. Once you have em you can copy them and they 'should' work with normal WINE. On the MDK RPM .... Well if they move it around etc. then the setups from crossover wont work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brancalessio Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Hi! I use Mandrake 9.2 with a RPM downloaded from the site of Wine (www.winehq.com). Previously I tried to use the RPM coming from the installation CDs but none worked... To set up wine you should run (after installing the RPM from the Wine site), the command winesetup It is safe to create a fake_windows installation so that you can install your programs without touching your Windows installation (if you have one). Also I found that there are some problems opening something like the licence agreement of Acrobat Reader so that the installation is OK but you can't run the program... Anyway this problem is fixed if you create (with winesetup) a wine desktop instead of managed or unmanaged windows... I did not tried to use MS Office under wine. But some other programs work fine! Bye! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aRTee Posted April 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Ok, thanks for the info. 1) I don't have the installation cd of Lotus Notes nor Win2k - it is just installed on my win partition. 2) I could give the crossover office Mdk package a try, since I'm a clubmember 3) if this doesn't work, I'll just download and do winesetup If anyone has any more hints and tips for things to try, please give them; in any case, I'll be trying this tonight or tomorrow morning. Hmm, will also need some info on connecting to samba shares .... if I can't manage I'll open another topic for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brancalessio Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Mmm... If your program is installed but you don't have the installation CDs, then you have (probably, I'm not sure) to use the existing Windows partition and not the fake_windows... I have also Windows XP (Pro), but I did not tried that way. Using an existing Windows partition might dangerous (winesetup told me). But... what filesystem do you have on Windows? NTFS? If so and if you did not compile your kernel with NTFS write support (it is off by default) then Linux can't write to the Windows partition... So there will be no problems (no data loss I mean). Gook luck! Bye! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aRTee Posted April 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Found some pages for wine and LN, looks ok.. They explain that for LN r5 (which we have) the best is to copy the necessary stuff from the installation into the fake_windows dir and set things up from there. Will have a go tomorrow morning at work; decided that LN is crucial, MSOffice a bit less important... Will let you guys know how it works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aRTee Posted April 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 (edited) Ok, can read and write to smb shares, mounted with mount -t smbfs no problem, just had trouble figuring out what domain/user/password to use (esp the domain). Got wine from winehq, mdk rpm. Tried with standard mdk rpm, may also have worked, the problem was with LN. Problems are not solved though, setup / config problems with LN make that I still have to boot windows... Need to talk to a local LN specialist/guru who is open to Linux (no desire to talk to some win support guy about LN on wine on Linux...) -- know one guy, who should be in tomorrow. There are some graphics problems with X and hp-ux; don't know if it is xfree + the ati 128rage pro ultra driver or the network or something else.. I could work the way it is now, except for not having LN.. [edit] failed to mention: I do have other/real work to do, so will try again only when I got more time, tomorrow or Friday if some LN guru comes around to help out, if not, sometime next week... Edited April 28, 2004 by aRTee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devries Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 You can use the winesetuptk (it's under support-files) program to configure wine (instead of winesetup). Winesetuptk is the easiest way to get wine working for you. (but in the near future will be replaced by wincfg). Give it a try :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aRTee Posted April 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 I did, and it worked fine. Didn't mention, but that is what I used, it was just called winesetup but the window said winesetuptk. I do have some trouble with an extra drive that I want to place there, it is in the setup, and in .wine/config but it won't show up in any program that I run under wine... Will try more tomorrow; if the right person is there, we can fix the LN stuff. And I will soon be almost Windows-free at work.. :) Got lots of interested colleagues, and my boss dropped by today for something else, so I jumped to the opportunity to show him my kde, and I explained that the UNIX CDE desktop environment is really showing its age compared to KDE... So he said: maybe you should do a presentation for the whole group to show what this is, how it works and if there are benefits to be had, etc... Guys from IT/Unix are not so happy, considering some big problems we have had with former tests of Linux - an NFS system that was completely blocked during the night, 3 terabytes of backup NOT made, all due to my 'ls' command in bash. True story. Be careful directly mounting nfs drives (from HP-UX) onto linux machines, RH7.3 nfs will cripple your HP server, very seriously.... So naturally, these guys get a bit jumpy when I mention I'm doing some linux stuff again... understandable, but not necessarily logical... ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aRTee Posted April 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 Ok, fixed my problems. Actually, the only thing I was struggling with that wasn't working well was that one drive wasn't there, though I put it in with winesetup. Found out that there is a dir .wine/dosdevices, just had to add the link there, and got LN running. Then had some problems to connect to the server, got the straight IP address, and now have email. 1 BUT: for now I cannot send attachments. Don't know why, I get the filebrowser, get to go and find the file, then when I select it I get an error.. "Error reading metafile from clipboard" Anyone with hints? Know of any good forums where they might have more info on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devries Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/162380 http://www.linuxforum.com/forums/index.php...showtopic=67360 You're not the only one with this problem. Seems to be a bug and no solution yet. Keep your eyes on those 2 links :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aRTee Posted April 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 The first link is not the same problem, I cannot attach a file, they are talking about launching an attachment - if you can save to file, which I can, there is no problem for me. The second one is exactly my problem. But as so many people state they can use notes fully under Linux, I don't believe that there is no solution for this. This has more info: http://www.winehq.org/hypermail/wine-users...04/03/0044.html so it may be wine version dependent; I'm using some very recent version... Maybe downgrading can help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aRTee Posted April 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 Tried the mandrake 20041212 version -- can attach stuff, but it freezes the moment I try to write an apostrophe ' or this one ` or so -- but I have to hit the same key twice, or the key once followed by space - just typing other characters will have it keep on going - but without having the apostrophe.... not good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aRTee Posted April 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 Ok, found one way: I have to enable keyboard layouts, then add one without deadkeys... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 Hi! I use Mandrake 9.2 with a RPM downloaded from the site of Wine (www.winehq.com). Previously I tried to use the RPM coming from the installation CDs but none worked... To set up wine you should run (after installing the RPM from the Wine site), the command winesetup It is safe to create a fake_windows installation so that you can install your programs without touching your Windows installation (if you have one). Also I found that there are some problems opening something like the licence agreement of Acrobat Reader so that the installation is OK but you can't run the program... Anyway this problem is fixed if you create (with winesetup) a wine desktop instead of managed or unmanaged windows... I did not tried to use MS Office under wine. But some other programs work fine! Bye! Mayeb you didn't know, but you have acrobat reader for linux. If you want the link, I'll look it up for you, but I had it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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