SuSe the first day

[ac_dispatcher]

Well I tried just about all free major distro's that were free except SuSE. Today I did the Softwaree ftp download install. Let me say I am very impressed with this distro. To coin the american journalist term "shock and awe"

 

Things I liked alot:

 

Yast - top notch. May very well be better than Mandy's MCC. Very easy.

acpi - Worked right on first boot. No configuring needed.

Speed - This Distro is fast. I haven't seen this speed since my last bootstrap

Software - As long as you don't mind the download - alot is there

 

 

Some things that I need to learn or not so good

 

1. No MPlayer - or win32 codecs due to legal reasons. - I can see Fedora or Redhat not having it, but SuSE?

 

2. Yast is a good installer but like MDK I want to find and add "respositories". Frankly not sure if SuSe has a system like urpmi - apt-get - synaptic.

 

3. Applications - SuSe has alot of good stock apps that would come with a distro of the shelf. But so far I cant find the amount of .rpms that Mandy has. (PLF)

 

The speed is great. For example. With my MDK9.2 system with services shut off and the "nice" used. the sound would skip and sound bad when playing NWN. With SuSE I could hear everything clear, and it ran much faster. I even could boost the graphic level up for a better game.

 

Im going to give it a go for about a month for everyday use. Things that I need/miss:

 

No root password (Im lazy)

DVD-Rip

RipperX

A good SuSE forum - Ill stay here first cause something tells me others here use SuSE.

 

Question: I think that Novell is an American company. If they buy SuSE would that make SuSE an American distro?

[chris:b]

Info apt-get for SUSE:

 

http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/home.html#filecontents

 

example sources.list:

 

http://ftp.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de/pub...-i386/examples/

 

Browsing the sources on:

 

http://ftp.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de/pub.../SuSE/9.0-i386/

 

Looks like all the nice apps are there.

 

Does it work? I am not a SUSE user.

[jlc]

yes, apt-get works on suse and mplayer is there.

[ac_dispatcher]

OK got apt-get install ok. I does wonders for dependencies. Funny thing is SuSE installed OpenOfffice with some unmet dependencies on first install. I had to remove it. Oh well I use abiword anyway.

 

My new problem is this:

 

linux:/ # synaptic

Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server

Xlib: Invalid XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 key (failed key comparison)

 

(synaptic:16741): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:

 

Any one else have this?

 

Did a google search on it. the SuSE finds were mostly german.

[bvc]

I'm sorry, I must have tired cybrejackle always asking for links to all these distros he forces me to try :lol:

 

this is from a pm from cybrejackle

Mail list

http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/

 

apt4rpm

http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/

 

http://www.suse.com/us/private/support/index.html

 

http://sdb.suse.de/sdb/en/html/

 

http://susefaq.sourceforge.net/

 

http://www.suselinuxsupport.de/en/

 

http://www.usr-local-bin.org/

 

http://packman.links2linux.org/

 

Packman is were you will get your dvd stuff.  That is also in apt, so is usr-local-bin.  You will want to grab http://packman.links2linux.org/?action=122

that for dvd also and just do what it says for 8.2 on 9, works for me.  Don't forget to go into yast and turn DMA on for you DVD drive.  Pretty much all the links at Distrowatch

 

http://www.distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=suse

 

 

Also under apt, you will see suse=people and that has kde 3.1.93 in it and samba 3.0 rpms.  Don't forget, apt4rpm on SuSE is about the same as RH, you add to many and you will break it.  I normally don't keep to many in mine and just grab the rpms through ftp or http and install them manually.

 

2.6 kernel packages

 

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/kraxel

 

You can find other stuff under the "people" dir.  Just look for new'r dates and should find some good packages.

 

Have a lot of FUN!

;) :P

[bvc]

OK got apt-get install ok. I does wonders for dependencies. Funny thing is SuSE installed OpenOfffice with some unmet dependencies on first install. I had to remove it. Oh well I use abiword anyway.

 

My new problem is this:

 

linux:/ # synaptic

Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server

Xlib: Invalid XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 key (failed key comparison)

 

(synaptic:16741): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:

 

Any one else have this?

 

Did a google search on it. the SuSE finds were mostly german.

I got that once...I think because I didn't have apt or something else installed. Do you have apt?

[ac_dispatcher]

I do have apt and its works great.

 

I think it has something to do with .Xauthority

 

synaptic works great if I log in as root :o

 

Frankly Im scarred to death of logging in as root. Ill keep on it. Thanks for the links.

[jlc]

Actually, in SuSE you when you move to "root" you need to use "sux" instead of "su"

 

#sux

#paswwd

#synaptic&

 

Or check your menu, the icon has probably been placed there for you too.

[ac_dispatcher]

cyberjackle you are my hero :P

 

Worked like a charm. I learned something today B)

By the way this worked also:

 

kdesu synaptic

 

Thanks

[jlc]

cyberjackle you are my hero :P

 

Worked like a charm. I learned something today B)

By the way this worked also:

 

kdesu synaptic

 

Thanks

[jlc]

**WARNING** = If you break, blowup or smoke your box for doing this, don't BLAME ME! ;-)

 

Here is another way to move to 2.6 kernel in SuSE.

 

 

http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e...3-Dec/2783.html

 

 

I have not tried that method, but for me of all the distro's I run SuSE was the HARDEST to get 2.6 up and running.

[ac_dispatcher]

Thanks for the help.

 

Also:

Does anybody know if SuSE will become a American distro if the Novell buyout goes thru?

 

If I went to a SuSE ftp site and download all data to make a local mirror for multiple home network installs how much data would I have to download?

 

Fun thing is to find out the differences of each distro. For instance mozilla installed in MDK9.2 is usually found in /usr/lib directory. I found mozilla in the /opt directory in SuSE. I always add icons(gentoo) to the /usr/share/icons directory in MDK. In SuSE its found again somewhere in the /opt directory (IM at work now cant check where).

 

Some more things about SuSE:

 

It configured hdparm automatically

acpi just works on first boot.

It found my winmodem

 

Im very familiar with apt-get / synaptic from messing around with Fedora. It works good but I just think that urpmi / gurpmi is just the best installer for .rpm's.

 

I not at home so I cant tell you the exact files but this was weird:

 

The very first time I start YOU (YAST) it said the OpenOffice had unmet dependencies that could not be fixed. I choose to ignore them. It worked fine so far.

As some of you know apt-get does not like that. So after a apt-get -f install - OpenOffice was gone. If I goto YAST and reinstall it and try apt-get it will tell me about the unmet dependencies again.

 

Like I said no big deal I use Abiword And If I really need a M$ file to be opened I have Office2000 on wine. So far SuSE rocks. and with the sites provided above Ill be busy for a while.

[melon2003]

acpi  -  Worked right on first boot. No configuring needed.

Does 'suspend' and powersaving features work as well?

Speed  -  This Distro is fast. I haven't seen this speed since my last bootstrap  

What exactly is fast? Whole system or just 3D acceleration or booting proces?

 

Could you give details about speed differences like where it's noticeable ie. is it faster than mdk 9.2 with 2.6 kernel?

 

I'm asking because I've never tried Suse distro - and man is alway curious about alternatives (but reinstalling whole system for no differences is not what I want:)

[bvc]

If I went to a SuSE ftp site and download all data to make a local mirror for multiple home network installs how much data would I have to download? 

 

It configured hdparm automatically

acpi just works on first boot.

if what I heard is correct professional (version) stuff isn't available for an ftp install. If it is you're looking at 3.2GB.

 

yes, I was very impressed with suse and its install/configurations, except for dma and cdrom/dvd/cdrw being off. Do a search in YaST for acpi. There's 2 gui apps for monitoring acpi.

[jleaman]

I have been downloading this suse version the dvd pro version for the last few days it should be done tomorrow.. Im excited to try suse as i brows there site and see alot of thing's.. did all of you guys buy your version..? i did download there trial one that runs on cd and thought it ran very fast for a os that was running on a cd.. im wondering how it wil run on a pc now...