frosterrj

Ok, after the force of groff-for-man, Man pages are back!

 

Thanks for the help.

 

Robert

when I try to do this (cl, or Gnome Control center gui), the capplet for advanced/applications/default seems to be missing - error message missing "that app doesnt exist" type of message.

 

How do I get that back?

 

 

Robert

forgot to add the last part:

 

'ls -l /usr/bin/tbl' gets this:

ls: /usr/bin/tbl: No such file or directory

 

so that's what's missing. what package is 'tbl'?

did the rpm update but got this:

Preparing... ########################################### [100%]

package groff-for-man-1.18.1-5mdk is already installed

 

then did a 'man urpmi' and got this:

[root@localhost robert]# man urpmi

sh: line 1: /usr/bin/gtbl: No such file or directory

 

then did the 'ls -l /usr/bin/gtbl' and got this:

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 May 10 03:28 /usr/bin/gtbl -> tbl

and the 'usr/bin/gtb -> tbl is blocked in red and flashing. First time I've ever seen that.

 

so everything seems to be there, yet no man pages.

Well, I rpm -e'd man, man-pages, groff, (and got a dependency conflict for mignight commander, so off it went as well).

Then I reinstalled everything again, only to get an error /ust/bin/gtbl does not exist.

 

I'm stumped. Any other options? I'm about to take this to mandrakeexpert and see what they have to say.

 

 

Robert

well, seems that the man.conf should be man.config, which works.

 

$ which man

/usr/bin/man

 

cat /etc/man.config--lot of stuff, but doing a simple man urpmi give me:

sh: line 1: /usr/bin/gtbl: No such file or directory

 

here is cat /etc.man.config. Any clues from this????

Generated automatically from man.conf.in by the

# configure script.

#

# man.conf from man-1.5k

#

# For more information about this file, see the man pages man(1)

# and man.conf(5).

#

# This file is read by man to configure the default manpath (also used

# when MANPATH contains an empty substring), to find out where the cat

# pages corresponding to given man pages should be stored,

# and to map each PATH element to a manpath element.

# It may also record the pathname of the man binary. [This is unused.]

# The format is:

#

# MANBIN pathname

# MANPATH manpath_element [corresponding_catdir]

# MANPATH_MAP path_element manpath_element

#

# If no catdir is given, it is assumed to be equal to the mandir

# (so that this dir has both man1 etc. and cat1 etc. subdirs).

# This is the traditional Unix setup.

# Certain versions of the FSSTND recommend putting formatted versions

# of /usr/.../man/manx/page.x into /var/catman/.../catx/page.x.

# The keyword FSSTND will cause this behaviour.

# Certain versions of the FHS recommend putting formatted versions of

# /usr/.../share/man/[locale/]manx/page.x into

# /var/cache/man/.../[locale/]catx/page.x.

# The keyword FHS will cause this behaviour (and overrides FSSTND).

# Explicitly given catdirs override.

#

FSSTND

# FHS

#

# This file is also read by man in order to find how to call nroff, less, etc.,

# and to determine the correspondence between extensions and decompressors.

#

# MANBIN /usr/local/bin/man

#

# Every automatically generated MANPATH includes these fields

#

MANPATH /usr/share/man

MANPATH /usr/X11R6/man

MANPATH /usr/local/man

MANPATH /usr/kerberos/man

MANPATH /usr/man

#

# Uncomment if you want to include one of these by default

#

#MANPATH /opt/teTeX/man

#MANPATH /usr/lib/perl5/man

#MANPATH /usr/share/perl5/man

#MANPATH /usr/share/tcl-8.0/man

#MANPATH /usr/share/tk-8.0/man

#MANPATH /usr/share/tix-4.1/man

#MANPATH /usr/share/coas/man

#MANPATH /usr/kerberos/man

#

# Set up PATH to MANPATH mapping

#

# If people ask for "man foo" and have "/dir/bin/foo" in their PATH

# and the docs are found in "/dir/man", then no mapping is required.

#

# The below mappings are superfluous when the right hand side is

# in the mandatory manpath already, but will keep man from statting

# lots of other nearby files and directories.

#

MANPATH_MAP /bin /usr/share/man

MANPATH_MAP /sbin /usr/share/man

MANPATH_MAP /usr/bin /usr/share/man

MANPATH_MAP /usr/sbin /usr/share/man

MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/bin /usr/local/man

MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/man

MANPATH_MAP /usr/X11R6/bin /usr/X11R6/man

MANPATH_MAP /usr/bin/X11 /usr/X11R6/man

MANPATH_MAP /usr/bin/mh /usr/share/man

MANPATH_MAP /usr/kerberos/bin /usr/kerberos/man

MANPATH_MAP /usr/kerberos/sbin /usr/kerberos/man

#

# NOAUTOPATH keeps man from automatically adding directories that look like

# manual page directories to the path.

#

#NOAUTOPATH

#

# NOCACHE keeps man from creating cache pages ("cat pages")

# (generally one enables/disable cat page creation by creating/deleting

# the directory they would live in - man never does mkdir)

#

#NOCACHE

#

# NOCACHE keeps man from creating cache pages

NOCACHE

#

# Useful paths - note that COL should not be defined when

# NROFF is defined as "groff -Tascii" or "groff -Tlatin1";

# not only is it superfluous, but it actually damages the output.

# For use with utf-8, NROFF should be "nroff -mandoc" without -T option.

#

TROFF /usr/bin/groff -Tps -mandoc -c

NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -mandoc -c

# not used, the nroff script determines what to do for Japanese

#JNROFF /usr/bin/groff -Tnippon -mandocj -c

EQN /usr/bin/geqn -Tps

NEQN /usr/bin/geqn -Tlatin1

JNEQN /usr/bin/geqn -Tnippon

TBL /usr/bin/gtbl

# COL /usr/bin/col

REFER /usr/bin/grefer

PIC /usr/bin/gpic

VGRIND

GRAP

PAGER /usr/bin/less -isrR

CAT /bin/cat

#

# The command "man -a xyzzy" will show all man pages for xyzzy.

# When CMP is defined man will try to avoid showing the same

# text twice. (But compressed pages compare unequal.)

#

CMP /usr/bin/cmp -s

#

# Compress cat pages

#

COMPRESS /usr/bin/bzip2

COMPRESS_EXT .bz2

#

# Default manual sections (and order) to search if -S is not specified

# and the MANSECT environment variable is not set.

#

MANSECT 1:8:2:3:3pm:4:5:6:7:9:tcl:n:l:p:o

#

# Default options to use when man is invoked without options

# This is mainly for the benefit of those that think -a should be the default

# Note that some systems have /usr/man/allman, causing pages to be shown twice.

#

#MANDEFOPTIONS -a

#

# Decompress with given decompressor when input file has given extension

# The command given must act as a filter.

#

.gz /usr/bin/gunzip -c

.bz2 /usr/bin/bzip2 -c -d

.z

.Z /bin/zcat

.F

.Y

here's what I get with the rpm -qa | grep man:

 

mandrake_desk-9.1-4mdk

mandrake-galaxy-9.1-21mdk

man-1.5k-8.1mdk

mandrake_doc-en-9.1-2mdk

mandrake-mime-0.3-1mdk

man-pages-1.54-3mdk

groff-for-man-1.18.1-5mdk

mandrake-release-9.1-1mdk

 

However, looking for man.conf: cat /etc/man.conf comes up with this:

 

cat: /etc/man.conf: No such file or directory

 

what's up with that?

 

robert

For some strange reason, every time I try to get a man page, I get a blank screen. I know they were installed. How can I get them back (or put them in if they weren't installed)?

 

Thanks,

Robert

Thanks for the reply.

 

I hadnt gotten a chance to come back and post my solution, which also works just as well:

 

Just right-click on the desktop, create link to applicaton, and in the execute section type: /usr/bin/apm -s, put a funky icon on it and now all I do is click on it from the desktop.

 

I'll check out the menu thing though, havent done that before.

 

 

Robert

just for reference, I am using a Latitude CPiA PII 366, and I have gotten the suspend to work by disabling APCI, and using APM. I configured the Kernel using the KControl/System/Kernel applet, and setting the power control section in PowerControl/laptop battery to powered -suspend. In the MCC/Boot section, APCI is still checked, but doesnt matter since I took out the APCI modules in the kernel--my guess anyway.

 

It seems to work great, with no hangs on resume. Works by either shutting the lid or waiting the required time I set up in Kcontrol

 

If anyone needs to see the system specifics, give me the commands and I'll post the output.

 

One question though -- how do I force a suspend by using a keyboard key combination? Cant seem to find this anywhere....

 

Robert

I finally got my 9.1 system to actually go into suspend, but only by setting the time settings in KDE Control Center.

 

How can I find out the key combination, or create a key binding, to set the machine into suspend mode without waiting for the time set in Kcontrol?

 

thanks,

robert

when I do the rpm -q, I get: j2re-1.4.1_01-2mdk

 

 

I guess my previous attempt at rpm -qa java that returned nothing was because I queried for the wrong thing...

 

 

R

Well, how about this....I upgraded via mandrake update to 1.3.1, and have the java plugin symlink in both plugin directories, however, and rpm -qa java returns no pacages!

 

I must say that I didnt have a problem with flash since the upgrade--worked before and after the upgrade without a problem.

 

THis install is the boxed powerpack version. Are the problems on downloaded version installs?

 

robert

FWIW, I (and many others, so it seems) have problems in my WIN partitions using Konqi as well. I think its well known. I can CL to and from all the partitions, copy, move, delete, etc, but Konq does hang.

 

There was a support ticket about this, but the FSTAB fixes in the ticket that worked were already implemented in my FSTAB file. I'm going to make a new ticket and see what comes of it.

 

R

Thanks! I didnt even realize that was a drop-down box. Guess I should pay more attention next time!

 

R

I have been getting a groovy tune playing during KDE "loading desktop" stage. I cannot seem to find where in KDE Control Center where to turn that off. I also get an annoying 'dong' when I log out that I'd also like to turn off.

 

 

Thanks

R

Excellent!! Thanks for the script. I jsut put a link to it on my desktop, and am changing my cursors at will.

 

Robert

Is it possible to convert from Ext3 to Reiser without completely reinstalling?

 

If so, which tool?

So I just read the whole bad install thread, wondering if I should just leave well enough alone for now. Will I gain any performance besides the journaling? Or is that likely to slow things down as logs are written?

I just installed 9.1 on my PII 366 machine with 256m on a 7GB partition (dual boot with win98).

I chose ext3 this time, but was wondering if there was a better option for my hardware config?

 

I had ext2 before (8.0, 9.0), but just read somewhere that ext3 was slow.

 

any opinions welcomed!

with a new 9.1 install for a Xircom Lan/Modem card that was a breeze to get up in every other version. 9.1 installer never got to the modem and only ever got the Lan part. I finally saw that harddrake kept pointing to tty/S0 or something, but it should have been tty/S3.

 

maybe this is the problem?

 

By the way, I had to install from scratch 2 (!) times before even PPPd was intalled. Very VERY unusual from all my other intall experiences....

 

 

R

In 9.0, the USB hub was not recoginzed because it wasnt attached during install, so my mouse wouldn't work until I plugged it directly into the machine'es hub.

 

Just finished installing 9.1 today, and even my memory key is there! Yee haw! I really hate having to have everything attached during install or nothing ever gets detected...

 

good luck

 

R

with no problems whatever. My Xircom modem/lan card, however is a different story!

 

I also have a 4-port usb hub attached with a usb mouse on that and it works great, during install and after.

 

Robert

Whenever I try to pipe (>) the output of a man page to a text file, I always get a bunch of crap as the output--a letter, a box, a letter, another symbol, etc.

 

I dont think I have a problem when I use the (>) on system commands like ls, rpm, etc.

 

Is there a way to get the output of man files readable?

 

also, how do I clear the terminal after issuing a man command? the only way I can get to the cl again is to open another terminal.

 

thanks,

Robert

I pasted this over the existing section:

 

Section "ServerLayout"

Identifier "layout1"

InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"

InputDevice "Touchpad" "CorePointer"

InputDevice "Mouse1" "SendCoreEvents"

Screen "screen1"

EndSection

 

rebooted the x-server only to have it break--something about a line 116 error when I typed startx.

Copied the good file over the changed one and KDE is now back to working.

 

Any Ideas?

 

Robert