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I have an HP 4470c scanner which is not yet supported by SANE. There is however an external backend or driver, (http://sane-project.org/lists/sane-backends-external.html), which is an alpha version of a driver for scanners like the 4470c which have a RTS88xx chipset (http://hp44x0backend.sourceforge.net/#mozTocId93432). My problem is I am relatively new at installing software from sources, and I can't get this driver intsalled. I have installed a few programs but am having difficulty installing the hp_rts88xx backend. I guess I don't fully understand the directions given in the section "4. Driver install" at http://hp44x0backend.sourceforge.net. These are the instructions and what I have done so far; Driver install * You need the SANE sources (ver. 1.0.xx) from http://www.sane-project.org/ * Kernel 2.4: To use the Scanner module check if it is loaded! Load them with „modprobe scanner vendor=0x3f0 product=0x805 “ (hp4470c, 0x805 = hp4400c). * Kernel 2.6: Install the libusb (>0.1.7) if it isn't installed. * You need the frondends „Xsane“ , „XscanImage“ or „Kooka“ installed on your PC. * Include the HP_RTS88xx backend-souces into the SANE sources. * Go into sane_hp_rts88xx/sane_hp_rts88xx and start patch-sane.sh for patch the SANE sources. * Start „./configure“ , „make“ and „make install“ on the root folder from the SANE sources. Please read „README“ and „README.linux“ for more. * Check the installation with „scanimage -L“. It will show the installed driver. If no, please read „README“ and „README.linux“ for more. * Modify /etc/sane.d/hp_rts88xx.conf : If you see a black image, change the CCD (HP44x0C). * Additional for SuSe Linux users : use the HP4100 driver for installation under YaST. Modify /etc/sane.d/dll.conf : include hp_rts88xx and disable all another drivers. * You can find more information's about SANE installation by the sane-troubleshoot Homepage * Here my additional README. * "You need the SANE sources (ver. 1.0.xx) from http://www.sane-project.org/"; I installed SANE from RPM files using the Mandrake Control Center software installation program. I have version 1.0.14 of SANE. * "Kernel 2.6: Install the libusb (>0.1.7) if it isn't installed." I have mandrake 10.1 with kernel 2.6 and libusb is libusb-0.1.so.4. I am not sure that this is ok of if I should change this to another version of libusb. * "You need the frondends „Xsane“ , „XscanImage“ or „Kooka“ installed on your PC." I have kooka installed. * "Include the HP_RTS88xx backend-souces into the SANE sources." I don't know what this means for me to do. I believe my sane sources are in /usr/lib/sane/ since using slocate, I find files like "libsane-primax.so.1" there. When I untar the "sane_hp_rts88xx-0.18.tar.gz" file I downloaded to the directory /usr/local/src, it gave me the new directory (/sane_hp_rts88xx/). I don't get any *.so.* files in this directory, or in its subdirectory /sane_hp_rts88xx. If i run ./configure in this new directory /sane_hp_rts88xx/sane_hp_rts88xx, i get "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory". If I run "make" in this directory I get; [root@mandrake10 sane_hp_rts88xx]# make gcc -Wall -g -I/home/jh/sane-backends-1.0.15/include -DSTANDALONE -DLIBUSB_SUPPORT -c -o hp_rts88xx.o hp_rts88xx.c hp_rts88xx.c:99:36: ../include/sane/config.h: No such file or directory hp_rts88xx.c:100:35: ../include/sane/sanei.h: No such file or directory hp_rts88xx.c:101:42: ../include/sane/sanei_config.h: No such file or directory In file included from hp_rts88xx.c:132: hp_rts_xfer.c:85:39: ../include/sane/sanei_usb.h: No such file or directory In file included from hp_rts88xx.c:132: hp_rts_xfer.c: In function `Hp_rts_XferInit': hp_rts_xfer.c:290: warning: implicit declaration of function `sanei_usb_init' hp_rts_xfer.c:299: warning: implicit declaration of function `sanei_usb_find_devices' hp_rts_xfer.c: In function `Hp_rts_XferOpen': hp_rts_xfer.c:334: warning: implicit declaration of function `sanei_usb_open' hp_rts_xfer.c:343: warning: implicit declaration of function `sanei_usb_get_vendor_product' hp_rts_xfer.c:358: warning: implicit declaration of function `sanei_usb_close' hp_rts_xfer.c: In function `Hp_rts_BulkWrite': hp_rts_xfer.c:418: warning: implicit declaration of function `sanei_usb_write_bulk' hp_rts_xfer.c: In function `Hp_rts_BulkRead': hp_rts_xfer.c:480: warning: implicit declaration of function `sanei_usb_read_bulk' In file included from hp_rts88xx.c:134: hp_rts_44x0c.c: In function `Hp44x0_set_display': hp_rts_44x0c.c:209: warning: suggest parentheses around arithmetic in operand of | hp_rts_44x0c.c:210: warning: suggest parentheses around arithmetic in operand of | In file included from hp_rts88xx.c:135: hp_rts_35x0c.c: In function `Hp35x0c_nvram_init_command': hp_rts_35x0c.c:856: warning: suggest parentheses around arithmetic in operand of | hp_rts88xx.c: In function `sane_init': hp_rts88xx.c:694: warning: implicit declaration of function `sanei_config_open' hp_rts88xx.c:694: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast hp_rts88xx.c:698: warning: implicit declaration of function `sanei_config_read' hp_rts88xx.c:701: warning: implicit declaration of function `sanei_config_get_string' hp_rts88xx.c:701: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast hp_rts88xx.c:716: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast hp_rts88xx.c: In function `sane_control_option': hp_rts88xx.c:973: warning: implicit declaration of function `sanei_constrain_value' make: *** [hp_rts88xx.o] Error 1 [root@mandrake10 sane_hp_rts88xx]# * "Go into sane_hp_rts88xx/sane_hp_rts88xx and start patch-sane.sh for patch the SANE sources." When I run "patch" as root the computer runs on and on, Basically thats as far as I've tried, but I am pretty sure I am missing something important. Thanks for you suggestions you can give on how I should proceed to install this driver.

I found that there were two swap files, one on hda and another on hdc. When I noted out the line in fstab for the swap on hdc, a lot of the activity on hdc stopped, as you suspected it would. Instead of each 2-3 seconds, the activity is now reduced to about each 10-15 seconds (when the dsl connection is off). Curiously, any idea why I don't see the "write to drive" activity shifting to hda , when the swap file is over there? I noticed that Gkrellm can monitor each disk partition separately, so I can see which partitions are getting written to. The write activity each 10 to 15 seconds takes place on hdc9 which is setup as the /tmp directory. I have hdc7 setup as my /var directory, and I can see additional activitiy on it when I turn on the dsl connection. I imagine that is caused by the logging activity of the Shorewall firewall I have running. Thanks for your help, things are much improved now.

I installed Gkrellm as you suggested, and it shows that with my hdc there are constant writes taking place to the drive at about 2-3 second intervals. Like you, I also have two hard drives on my computer. My second drive, hda, does not show this continuous write activity either. I have a previous, now non-working, installation of mdk 10.1 on hda, with only the home directory mounted. This would suggest that the continuous write activity is not a characteristic of the linux file system, as you wondered. If it was, I guess the hda should have the same continuous activity. I found a similar problem described by “machinemanagement” using Red Hat Fedora 4 at http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/sh...d=1819860#post1. He found that his activity stopped when his dsl/network connection was removed. This was not the case for me. When I cut my dsl connection with the RP-PPPOE controller, or if I just pull out my modems USB cable, the write activity to hdc keeps happening. A suggestion was made to run the “top” program which gives a listing of running tasks, to try to identify which program is writing to the hard drive. When I did that I see that X is usually on top of the list. I don't know how to tell if X is actually responsible for the hard drive activity. A response to “machinemanagement” from “danimalz” was that “It's probably sync -ing your logs to disk.”. This sound quite plausible, given that it is a write taking place. I had a look a my syslog file by running “tail -F /var/log/syslog” in a terminal. I don't see messages coming in every 2-3 seconds, instead, there is a five minute interval since tht last message. I also checked the Xorg.0.log, the user.log, secure.log, the auth.log. But non show enteries coming in every 2-3 seconds.

I know thats the best thing to. However, because its a big job reinstalling the extra applications I have, I hesitate to do that. I installed the clamav anti-virus utility, which is part of the mandrake 10.1 distribution. I am now trying to get that working, so that I can check for a boot virus. Thanks again for your help

Hi daniewicz, I don't have windows installed any longer, although i did a couple of years ago. Your mention of a virus reminds me of something else that happened recently. When mandrake 10.1 was first installed, it booted off the hard disk. After about a month, it would not boot any longer. I got around that by using an old boot diskette I had stored away. Each time I boot now, as GRUB starts up, I hit the E key, and type in the settings for my current installation. I had wondered if I have a boot virus, but have not been able to figure out how to tell. I have 250 MB of RAM. Thanks for your help.

It seems that my hard drive never really stops. When the computer is left idle for a period of time, the light flashes green sporadically. I mean that its not as active as when loading an application, but it is minimally active. Its hard to be exact about this problem, but I didn't really notice it until my current installation of mandrake 10.1. I have two hard drives. The first hda, has a previous mandrake 10.1 installed which I damaged. I have mounted only the /home directory to get to my files. I reinstalled mandrake 10.1 on hdc. Its with hdc that I hear activity going on continuously. I am worrying about premature wearing out of this hard drive. Thanks for your suggestions... * processor Pentium III (Katmai) 500 MHz * hda Identification Vendor: ‎Maxtor Model: ‎6E030L0 Media class: ‎hd Bus identification Device ID: ‎0 Connection Bus: ‎ide Channel: ‎primary Device Old device file: ‎/dev/hda New devfs device: ‎/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc Partitions Primary partitions: ‎1 (hda1) Extended partitions: ‎7 (hda5, hda6, hda7, hda8, hda9, hda10, hda11) Misc Disk controller: ‎0 Geometry: ‎3972/240/63 (CHS) * hdc Identification Vendor: ‎Western Digital Corp. Model: ‎WD400BB-00AUA1 Media class: ‎hd Bus identification Device ID: ‎0 Connection Bus: ‎ide Channel: ‎secondary Device Old device file: ‎/dev/hdc New devfs device: ‎/dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/disc Partitions Primary partitions: ‎1 (hdc1) Extended partitions: ‎7 (hdc5, hdc6, hdc7, hdc8, hdc9, hdc10, hdc11) Misc Geometry: ‎5169/240/63 (CHS) Disk controller: ‎0 *

Zenarcher, I looked at my settings under the "junk" menu as you suggested in Evolution 2.0.3. I found I had the box "check incoming mail for junk" checked off. When I unchecked that box, it really made a big increase in the speed that my mail downloads. Mail downloads normally now. Thanks for the help

Ever since I switched from mdk 10 to 10.1, I have noticed downloading mail with Evolution (Evolution 2.0.3) takes a very long time. Its hard to give an exact idea of the speed, but 25 emails could take 5 minutes to download. I remember downloading mail being almost instantaneous with Evolution in mdk 10. Evolution was the standard version which came with mdk 10, Evolution 1.4 I think. I wonder if anyone else has noticed this and if there is a way to speed things up. I have a high speed internet connection and download of other files seems to go fast enough. Thanks for your help

It is interesting that your XF86Config (xorg.conf) works without the font path information. I just checked that and XFS service is running [root@mandrake10 bob]# service xfs status xfs (pid 4264) is running... [root@mandrake10 bob]#

Thanks for your help Arctic and ianw1974. I have been able to fix my problem which was due to the XF86Config file. I tried using XFdrake at a terminal to set the video card, but with not luck. Each time I got this error message: “(EE) failed to load module "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a" (once-only module, 135962511) (WW) ATI(0): Failed to set up write combining range (0x40000000) (0x800000) Try to change some parameters” I managed to fix the problem however, when I realized Xfdrake was modifying the file /etc/X11/XF86Config. I noticed a previous version of the file which I renamed XF86Config. When I ran “startx” I got the display manager and could log in. When I compared the two XF86Config files, the one that worked had some extra information in the section “Files”. The non functioning XF86Config file had: Section "Files" # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of # the X server to render fonts. FontPath "unix/:-1" EndSection The functioning XF86Config file had: Section "Files" # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of # the X server to render fonts. FontPath "unix/:-1" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mdk" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings" EndSection When I pasted the missing lines into the nonfunctioning XF86Config file it became active again, allowing the graphical display to work. So what seems to have happened is when I tried to setup my new videocard using Mandrake Control Center, somehow the FontPath lines were taken out of the XF86Config file. When I tried to go back to the old videocard again using the Mandrake control center, even though I chose the proper videocard, the fontPath lines did not get put back in, and so the situation did not get fixed. Thanks again for your help.

After putting in a different video card, and then going back to the original card, I have lost the graphical display on my computer running Mandrake 10.1. I want to make dvds from 8mm videos I shoot with my analogue camcorder. To do this video capture, I require a TV-In card, I bought one the other day to try out and that is where my problems started, Luckily I have an LTSP network set up in my home, and my workstations still work normally, which will make it easier to fix things. The problem is with the server which will not boot beyond the terminal prompt. The display manager does not come up. Here's what I did to cause this situation: 1.I removed the 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X video card that has worked fine since installation of mdk 10.1. 2.I installed a replacement video card, an ATI Mach64, that I thought had more memory as required by the TV card. 3.I put in the TV card, and ASUS TV FM card. I assumed everything would be automatically detected upon reboot, but instead, it booted only to the terminal prompt. I tried to set up the new video card using the Mandrake Control Center, going to the Hardware section, then choosing Video card. I then ran the Config Tool and selected the new video card. I couldn't get the graphical display to work. I also set up the TV card, in Mandrake Control Center. Finally, I tried to go back to the original working mdk 10.1 setup. I removed both the TV card and the Mach64 card, and reinstalled the original 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X video car. The problem persists, no matter what settings I choose using the video card Config Tool. From the reading I have done, I am guessing I have managed to get conflicting modules loaded. I am not familiar enough with Linux to know what I need to do to really identify the problem and fix it. I would really appreciate any pointers on how to proceed. Thanks.

Thanks devries, for your help. I went to http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ which helped me to setup urpmi correctly on my computer. After that the updates were installed without any problems.

I just upgraded my mandrake 10 to 10.1 using the 3 CD iso set I downloaded. Things seem to look ok until I tried to get all of the available security, bugfixes and normal updates. When I attempt to do this using Mandrakelinux Control Center I get this message: "There was a problem during the installation. Libegroupwise.so.4 is needed by (installed) evolution -2.0.1-2mdk." I get this message with whatever security update i try to do.. Cdrecord, bind-utils, Zip etc. Before that message I get another "the following packages have to be removed for other to be upgraded" To this I respond with a Yes it is ok to proceed. The mandrake 10.1 CDs offer the upgrade choice (from a previous version such as mandrake 10) so I assumed it was a possible way to go as opposed to a complete install of mandrake 10.1. Did I cause this problem by failing to do something during the upgrade of 10 to 10.1? I am wondering is there some way to fix things up or should I do a complete mandrake 10.1 fresh install?

I am now able to find all of my photo files on the 3 cdroms which gave me problems. What I did to get it working, using Konsole, was to umount and then mount the cdrom. There still is something not quite right with my system however. With 1 of the cdroms, Konsole showed completely different contents, before and after umount. But when I try to reproduce that just now, I notice that the cdrom is now mounting automatically, and I no longer consistently see the two different lists of files. I have a copy of both sets saved to my hard drive so I know I am not imagining all of this. The first list of files is 32 family photos from another customer. The second list of files, seen after remounting, are 290 of my own, without those from the other customer. I just installed a new version of DigiKam (0.7.1) which needed quite a few other files be added as well., so perhaps I have messed up Mandrake 10 in some way. A few of the extra files needed by Digikam were from Mandrake 10.1 Thanks again

Hi- I don't know for certain, since the camera stores in the cities of China, where i was visiting, just did the downloading of my camer for me. They were likely using a version of windows xp.

I had my digital camera downloaded at various camera shops during a trip I recently took. After returning home, I tried to look at these photos (four different cds), but only one had the number of pictures I expected. I examined the cds on another computer, which runs on windows 95, and was glad to see many more photos files are visible with that operating system. I am wondering how I can set up my mandrake 10 system to see all the files on these CDs. From hunting around on the internet, I understant the /etc/fstab file may have the answer to my question, so here that is, /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda9 /boot ext3 defaults 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda6 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdc12 /home_hdc12 ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdc7 /home_hdc7 ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom auto umask=0022,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0022,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda10 /tmp ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda7 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda8 /usr/local ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda11 /var ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hdc5 swap swap defaults 0 0 Thanks for your help