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I just went through this exercise with a new HP laptop my daughter purchased. My purpose was not to install linux though. She has learned that having all your data on C: is not good if ( when ) you have to re-install windbloze. The disk is 650 gig, with a monsterous C:. My solution was to download and burn a copy of clonezilla. It took a little learning on my part to understand how to clone, and then restore a partition, however it was worth the time. I cloned the D: drive, a primary partition, and saved it on my linux system. I deleted the D: partition, did a shrink on C: and then created an extended partition. Inside the extended partition I created a partition the same size as D: was originally, ( it wasn't huge ) and then a E: partition. I used clonezilla to restore the D: , worked like a charm. For what its worth, D: was the Recovery partition. So now E: is used for all data. C: was shrunk from 562 gig to 172 gig, and the data partition is now 356 gig. No special reason for the partition sizes. I just wanted to separate user data from windbloze. It would have been a piece of cake to install linux in the space I created for data, however, school boards will not support linux, at least not where my daughter works.
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camorri started following APC UPS ES 750 never seen by Mandriva 10.1 , install mandriva on win7 , Is it possible to re-compile a stock kernel? and 1 other
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Well, sadly I have hit a wall. I recompiled the kernel, turned off Config_DYNAMIC_USB_MINORS, and the new kernel will not create an entry in /dev for the UPS. I don't have any where near enough knowledge on the kernel to fix this. So, until I decide to install a new system on my main machine, I will live with it. My choice will not be Mandriva though, partly because of this problem, and partly because of the very uncertain future on Mandriva. Than-you to those that replied.
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Is it possible to re-compile a stock kernel?
camorri replied to camorri's topic in Command Line, Kernel and Programming
I mean a kernel that is installed using urpmi. One I have not had to compile. -
Is it possible to re-compile a stock kernel?
camorri replied to camorri's topic in Command Line, Kernel and Programming
Sorry, brain fart... 2010.1 I thought I had include a link to my original post, here -->https://mandrivausers.org/index.php?/topic/106365-apc-ups-es-750-never-seen-by-mandriva-101/ Lots of details. -
I have a APC UPS ES750. When I plug in the USB cable to my Mandirva 10.1 system a device never gets created in /dev for the ups. See this link for more details on the problem. I have determined that I want to know if it possible to recompile a stock kernel, and turn off CONFIG_DYNAMIC_USB_MIRRORS. I have figured out how to edit kernel source, and change this option. I am not at all sure if the Nvidia drivers, and drivers for Virtual Box will load into a reconfigured kernel. Your thoughts on how to proceed? Would I be better off getting the latest kernel source, and compiling it? If I go that route, I have very little experience, so I have no idea how to handle Nvidia or V-box stuff. I know if I get the latest source, the patching Mandriva does would be gone, and it would have an impact on the built in tools, not sure what else. [moved from Software by spinynorman]
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John, Thank-you for your reply. I have always used the Standard setting. I tried disabling Msec, however that made no difference. Right now I believe the problem is related to CONFIG_DYNAMIC_USB_MIRRORS being enabled in the kernel. I won't know until I figure out how to recompile a stock kernel with this option disabled. I'll post back after I make the kernel change, and test it.
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This quote is in the documentation for apcupsd howto. I have confirmed CONFIG_DYNAMIC_USB_MIRRORS is turned on in stock kernels, at least the ones I have installed. I have also confirmed devfs is not running. I'm going to investigate disabling dynamic mirrors in the kernel.
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I updated the BIOS to the latest level. It was Award Bios version F4, and is now version F10a. The problem remains, no device is detected. The errors I see from dmesg have changed slightly. Here is the output from the last plugging of the UPS. usb 1-6: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 11 usb 1-6: device descriptor read/all, error -71 usb 1-6: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 12 usb 1-6: device descriptor read/all, error -71 usb 1-6: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 13 usb 1-6: device not accepting address 13, error -71 usb 1-6: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 14 usb 1-6: device descriptor read/8, error -62 usb 1-6: device descriptor read/8, error -71 hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 6
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symlink to a target directory [solved]
camorri replied to camorri's topic in Command Line, Kernel and Programming
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I'm can not create a symbolic link to a directory. I have read, and re-read the man page. I can not get it right. What is the trick? I have tried: ln -s --target-directory=linux-2.6.33.7-desktop-1mnb ln: missing file operand Try `ln --help' for more information. Operand is missing? O.K. so I tried, ln -s --target-directory=linux-2.6.33.7-desktop-1mnb linux This didn't work as I expected either. It created a link called 'linux' in the target directory, not in the directory I was in. I need a command that will create a sym link to the target, called linux, in the directory I'm in. The old link is pointing to the wrong source for the current kernel, and I can not get vboxdrv to compile. Your help is always appreciated... [moved from Software by spinynorman]
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K Bergen and Greg2, Thank-you for your interest and responses. I installed Kernel-linus-2.6.34.7-1mdv x86_64 and am running it right now. However, it has not made any difference either. Here are the usb messages I see in dmesg after a boot, with the APC UPS plugged in. dmesg | grep usb usbcore: registered new interface driver usbfs usbcore: registered new interface driver hub usbcore: registered new device driver usb usb usb1: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0002 usb usb1: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1 usb usb1: Product: EHCI Host Controller usb usb1: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.34.7-1mdv ehci_hcd usb usb1: SerialNumber: 0000:00:02.1 usb usb2: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0001 usb usb2: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1 usb usb2: Product: OHCI Host Controller usb usb2: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.34.7-1mdv ohci_hcd usb usb2: SerialNumber: 0000:00:02.0 usbcore: registered new interface driver hiddev usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid usbhid: USB HID core driver usb 2-6: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2 usb 2-6: device descriptor read/all, error -71 usb 2-6: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3 usb 2-6: device not accepting address 3, error -71 usb 2-6: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 4 usb 2-6: device not accepting address 4, error -71 usb 2-6: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 5 And the current kernel - uname -a Linux duelie 2.6.34.7-1mdv #1 SMP Wed Sep 15 18:25:07 UTC 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux I tried loading uhci-hcd. It loads without a problem. However, the low speed UPS is not seen. It appears to me as if the ohci-hcd module is the one trying to see the device, from the dmesg output. From what I have read, the device should be detected by usbhid. On my Ubuntu system, the only drivers for usb are are hid and usbhid. I removed all the other drivers on my Mandriva system, then not even the hubs show up with lsusb. I'm at a loss at this point. Did some more reading. Found a suggestion to change boot options. I tried 'noapic' and 'nolapic'. That made no difference.
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Well, the problem persists. I installed a newer kernel, uname -a Linux duelie 2.6.34.7-1mdv #1 SMP Wed Sep 15 18:25:07 UTC 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux The problem is the same, no device is created when I hotplug the UPS. I have looked at udev rules, and there is a rule that should match the UPS. One thing is bugging me, and that is this; new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3 usb 2-5: device descriptor read/all, error -71 Note it is the ohci-hcd driver that is talking to the UPS. Everything I have read indicates it should be usbhid that does the work. I have it loaded, but ohci-hcd is the driver doing the work. On my Ubuntu system ohci_hcd isn't loaded. I tried removing ohci-hcd and ehci-hcd, then nothing worked on the usb ports. Where do I go from here? I have a Kubuntu 10.10 cd sitting here...
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I'm using a stock kernel, Linux duelie 2.6.33.7-desktop-2mnb #1 SMP Mon Sep 20 18:19:20 UTC 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux I have the 'Kernel latest desktop' and 'Kernel latest devel' virtual packages installed. So I should have the latest stable kernels for desktop use. ( in theory ). This was a clean install, I don't trust upgrades either. The question on kernel came up because of the link In my previous post, some Mandriva users were having the same problem with APCUPS's and the fix was installing a different kernel. From what I can figure out, Mandriva and the security settings may have something to do with the device not found. The thread suggests devfs is not activated in the kernel? I ran this command, 'zcat /proc/config.gz"|grep -i devfs' and nothing shows up in the output. This leads me to believe This is my problem. See post 3 in the above thread. I have had a look at MCC and security settings. My system was set for 'Standard' security. I tried 'Netbook' since the description sounded less secure. No change. I find the security settings a bit of a mystery. Not at all sure what changes with different settings. Of course this may be a red herring...
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John, Thank-you for your response. I installed gapcmon as you suggested, re-installed apacupsd ( I had removed it when I installed nut ). I went through the configuration of apcupsd and started it. As before, it fails. Here is the output. Oct 23 10:02:23 Duelie apcupsd[31639]: apcupsd FATAL ERROR in linux-usb.c at line 609#012Cannot find UPS device --#012For a link to detailed USB trouble shooting information,#012please see <http://www.apcupsd.com/support.html>. Oct 23 10:02:23 Duelie apcupsd[31639]: apcupsd error shutdown completed The UPS is still not detected on the usb bus. lsusb does not show the device. At this point, I do not think this has anything to do with apcupsd, or nut for that matter. The device is not detected, so nothing can talk to it. I'm at a loss at this point, since I have no idea how devices are detected; other than through the installed usb drivers. Keep in mind, any other device I plug in to the usb ports work. That includes two different cameras, a mp3 player, a printer, and a blue tooth dongle. I want to monitor the UPS, so in the event of an extended power outage, I can have things set up for an orderly shutdown. If I'm home at the time, no problem, I can shut things down. The local power company has already tested that for me. This is the best bet I have found so far. See this link. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/apc-upc-cannot-find-ups-device-209299/ In short, the symptoms seem the same, device not detected on USB. One question, urpmi kernel lists 54 choices. How do I know what kernels are 'hardened' and which ones are not?
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I bought a APC BACK UPS ES 750G and want it to talk to my Mandriva system. The problem is the UPS never shows up in /dev when I plug in the USB cable. The UPS works, as a UPS. It is recognized by my Ubuntu 10.1 system installed on a HP netbook. When I plug in the UPS to that system, the UPS shows up in /dev. If I do a lsusb, the device is listed as you would expect, but not on Mandriva. I believe this is a Mandriva bug, I have spent a lot of time on this and tried many things. There are two main packages to monitor a UPS, apcupsd and nut. I have tried both without success. Some information about my system. The system board is a Gigabyte board model GA-M61SME-S2 with F4 level bios installed. Note, many other USB devices work just fine on the system, and on any port I plug them into. Mandriva. uname -a Linux duelie 2.6.33.7-desktop-2mnb #1 SMP Mon Sep 20 18:19:20 UTC 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux USB modules loaded - lsmod | grep usb usbhid 49577 0 hid 81757 1 usbhid usbcore 210196 4 usbhid,ohci_hcd,ehci_hcd I tried getting the device recognized by removing the ehci_hcd module. That had no effect other than removing the higher speed driver. Note, I have the usbhid module loaded. Nut seems to want it. From what I have read, UPS's are detected by hid. Here is lsusb without the UPS plugged in. lsusb[code] Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 002: ID 04f9:0028 Brother Industries, Ltd Printer[/code] and after I plug the UPS usb cable : lsusb Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 002: ID 04f9:0028 Brother Industries, Ltd Printer And from dmesg, after plugging the UPS in post 5. usb 2-3: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2 usb 2-3: New USB device found, idVendor=04f9, idProduct=0028 usb 2-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 usb 2-3: Product: HL-2040 series usb 2-3: Manufacturer: Brother usb 2-3: SerialNumber: M6J445571 usb 2-5: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3 usb 2-5: device descriptor read/all, error -71 usb 2-5: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 4 usb 2-5: device descriptor read/all, error -71 usb 2-5: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 5 usb 2-5: device descriptor read/8, error -71 usb 2-5: device descriptor read/all, error -71 usb 2-5: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 6 usb 2-5: device descriptor read/8, error -71 usb 2-5: device descriptor read/8, error -71 hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 5 So, no device is created, and the monitoring software can not talk to the UPS. I did some reading on HID. Seems it should create nodes in /dev/hid/usb, it never does on Mandriva. I found a script to create the nodes, and placed the commands in rc.local. So I have nodes. Here they are... (root)-(jobs:0)-(/dev/usb) (! 1006)-> ls hiddev0 hiddev10 hiddev12 hiddev14 hiddev2 hiddev4 hiddev6 hiddev8 hiddev1 hiddev11 hiddev13 hiddev15 hiddev3 hiddev5 hiddev7 hiddev9 Right now I have them in /dev/usb because of a suggestion I found in another thread. It does not matter if they are in /dev/usb or /dev/hid/usb the device is not created, and I never see it with lsusb. I'm going to log into my Ubuntu system, and post some info from there... From the Ubuntu neybook. Fist of all, lsmod... root@cliffs-mini:/home/cliff# lsmod | grep usb usbhid 36110 0 hid 67032 1 usbhid lsusb... root@cliffs-mini:/home/cliff# lsusb Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0461:4d03 Primax Electronics, Ltd Kensington Mouse-in-a-box Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 002: ID 051d:0002 American Power Conversion Uninterruptible Power Supply Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 003: ID 5986:0182 Acer, Inc Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub The last few lines of dmesg after I plug the UPS 475.152096] usb 2-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 [ 475.394436] usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 476.613148] generic-usb 0003:051D:0002.0002: hiddev96,hidraw1: USB HID v1.10 Device [American Power Conversion Back-UPS ES 750 FW:841.I3 .D USB FW:I3 ] on usb-0000:00:1d.0-2/input0 Can anyone give me some insight into how to get Mandriva to create the device?