adamw

john: aha - it's not loading a config file for your mouse. Note my output for the same command:

[adamw@lenovo deluge]$ ps aux | grep imwheel

adamw 4813 0.0 0.0 3436 888 ? Ss Oct24 0:03 /usr/bin/imwheel -k --rc /etc/X11/imwheel/imwheelrc.MX500

see the --rc parameter.

let's try some good old-fashioned experimentation. Kill the running imwheel process, then run exactly the one in my example - /usr/bin/imwheel -k --rc /etc/X11/imwheel/imwheelrc.MX500 . See if the thumb button does anything in Firefox now. If it doesn't, try /usr/bin/imwheel -k --rc /etc/X11/imwheel/imwheelrc.MX700 , then /usr/bin/imwheel -k --rc /etc/X11/imwheel/imwheelrc.MX1000 , then /etc/X11/imwheel/imwheelrc.generic . Don't restart X or anything between tries, you shouldn't need to.

This setting isn't relevant to the 'rest of your desktop'. It's simply the output method used for *playing video*.

Auto will try and pick the 'best available' driver. It's hard to tell exactly what driver it's actually picked, but if video playback is actually working okay, then it's fine. :)

oh. he's downloading from the ATI site.

yes, the last ATI driver that supported the 9250 was 8.28.8. But there's not really a lot of point using that, AFAIK. It's better just to use the free driver. The free driver being better than the proprietary one for cards prior to the 9500 was part of the reason ATI stopped supporting those cards after 8.28.8.

I don't know about the TV side, sorry, never used TV output on a Radeon.

If you're on Mandriva 2008, you picked the right option. It was named "GeForce FX - GeForce 8800". It kinda amazes me how many people don't understand this fairly simple naming scheme - it means 'any card from the GeForce FX range to the 8800'. I don't really know how to make it any simpler / easier to understand, suggestions are welcome if anyone has any smart ideas.

I *could* change the lists to list every single NVIDIA GPU that has ever existed, even though all you actually need is five groups. But I'd really rather not. Five groups makes things so much simpler.

Every NVIDIA card from the FX range through to the 8800 uses the exact same driver with the exact same options. There is no need for each card to have its own separate entry in the list.

So, basically, you don't need to do anything. You've got the correct driver. Everything is cool.

does it work if you don't use the proprietary driver at all?

we kinda need to know your strategy here.

do you want to use the prism54 driver, or ndiswrapper?

forgot to mention, john - there's a bug report for the sbp2 issue: http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=26284

for reference, there have been just under 30,000 downloads of 2008 from the official torrents (both public and Powerpack subscription torrents). we don't have numbers for mirror downloads as we don't get stats from all mirror maintainers, but they'll also be significant.

Firefox 2.0.0.7 had no relevance to Linux. It fixed a bug that only mattered to Windows. We therefore didn't ship it as a security update, and didn't break the 2008 version freeze to include it.

2.0.0.8 does have relevance for Linux, and it was released as an official update for 2008 and 2007.1 yesterday.

"Some files didn't want to let me copy them over, they were probably system logs in use:"

actually, no, you just made a mistake with the command:

# /etc/sysconfig/system.rpmnew /etc/sysconfig/system

bash: /etc/sysconfig/system.rpmnew: Permission denied

you're trying to *run* /etc/sysconfig/system.rpmnew . You left out the 'cp'. :)

I believe rpmdrake actually has an interface for merging rpmnew files when you do updates via rpmdrake, but yes, perhaps it could be added to the installer too...

urpmi originally meant "user-mode rpm installer", I believe. back in the early days of Mandrake pre-history, urpmi actually ran with user privileges (not root). that idea was dropped fairly quickly but the name stuck.

If he's getting 8.28.8 he's not using Mandriva 2008. It sounds like he's using 2007. 8.28.8 is an old version of the proprietary driver, I think it's the one we shipped in 2007. 2007 also had old detection tables that would have tried to use the proprietary driver with a 9250, so that makes sense.

He should get 2007 Spring or 2008. Their detection is better.

iphitus: actually, we use imwheel to handle multiple buttons and have done for several releases. If I kill the imwheel process running on my machine, it stops my back / forward buttons working in Firefox. You have to have *something* to translate these buttons into actual actions that applications will recognize, as most applications aren't written to recognize these extended buttons natively. imwheel is it, for Mandriva.

john: the response to the check is actually what I expected (it tells me imwheel is running) but I should actually have asked for this check, sorry:

ps aux | grep imwheel

it'll tell me the parameters imwheel was launched with, which is important. Also it'd help to see your xorg.conf.

lawson: you can use diskdrake to mount Mint's partitions in Mandriva.

the installer tries to detect if you're running on a laptop. seems that it got a false positive for you. you can file a bug at http://bugzilla.mandriva.com/ to have this looked at. include the output of these commands:

dmidecode

perl -I/usr/lib/libDrakX -Mdetect_devices -e 'print detect_devices::isLaptop() . "\n"'

thanks!

there's not a *huge* difference in the builds. laptop just enables a couple of things - tickless timer and USB suspend, I believe - that are useful for saving power on laptops.

See my blog post:

http://www.happyassassin.net/2007/10/24/new-ati-drivers/

basically, we're working on a clean backport for this new driver to 2008, so if you're willing to wait a few days you should be able to upgrade to it very easily, better than downloading from upstream.

thanks for the report...

the problem with the kernel is because your grub config is using the 'really old' kernel naming scheme, the one from 2005 or 2006 (I forget which) - not just the 'old' kernel naming scheme (the one from 2007). the 2008 upgrader can, I think, handle migrating from the 2007 naming scheme, but not the 2005 / 2006 one...

for the problem launching drakconf , check /etc/pam.d for files with a .rpmnew extension. If there are any, copy them over the originals (so foobar.rpmnew becomes foobar). In fact, it would be a good idea to use locate to check the entire filesystem for .rpmnew files, and merge them into the originals as appropriate (for the pam.d files it's okay to just blindly copy the .rpmnew over the originals, but for others, you'd want to check if there are any changes you need to preserve). this may well resolve various miscellaneous weirdnesses.

Seamonkey you probably still had the 2007.1 package. It's not on the discs (it's a contrib package). So it wouldn't get updated till you added the 2008 repos. In fact, now you've added the 2008 repos, you should probably do an urpmi --auto-select -v to make sure any remaining packages from 2007.1 are upgraded. Anything you had installed that wasn't on the 2008 CD / DVD you used for the upgrade, won't be upgraded till you do this. Probably the same issue with beryl-manager.

john: you can see what drivers are being used for the cards with lsmod:

lsmod | grep snd

you can also call the sound configuration utility directly, just run 'draksound' as root.

just the usual issues with third-party repositories: there is no guarantee the packages will play nicely with packages from the official repositories, or from *other* third-party repositories.

Firefox 2.0.0.8 will be released as an official update once it has been through the usual QA process. New versions of amaroK may well show up in the official /backports repositories.

Mitchell: don't run the commands as root, run them as a regular user (whatever user you run the actual video playing apps as). They use ~ , which is a relative location which means 'the current user's home directory'. So when you run the commands as root, it's trying to make the changes to a file in the root user's home directory - /root. As you don't run your video playing apps as root (at least I hope you don't! :>), the config files are not there. That's why you get the "No such file or directory" error.

2008 should have automatically detected the card and used the 'ati' driver (the one Reiver suggests). The detection code does not propose the proprietary driver for pre-Radeon 9500 cards, as it doesn't support them. So he should've had working graphics out of the box. Did he not? Or did it only break when he tried to use the proprietary driver?

Sorry, I don't understand what you wrote.

You should be able to use alt-F2 with regular KDE panel anyway.

There should be an official Katapult package in Cooker quite soon, and probably a backport for 2008.

If you're using any kind of video-playing app with Compiz, you need to set it to use unaccelerated video output. See:

http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Releases/Mandr..._video_playback

I'm not sure how to do this for Cinelerra, but I think it should have the option somewhere.

The problem with the bootsplash screen and Compiz is known, but is actually technically rather hard to fix. If a good fix can be found that can be safely backported to 2008, it will be, but this may not actually be possible.

This is in Cooker already and will likely be backported to 2008 quite soon.