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How many logos are allowed to be submit by a member?

However many you want.

Didn't knew there was a contest :huh: ...need to pay closer attention in te future.

Maybe I can put something together quickly before the contest close.

It just started and it's gonna last two weeks so you have plenty of time. I hope you do submit something. You do such nice artwork.

nice arctic :)

Well they have changed some things since my install guide is about two and half years old but whatever this does it has not been a problem for me. I suppose it wouldn't hurt tho.

Talk about simple. This is my lilo entry for gentoo

image=/mnt/gentoo/boot/bzImage
label=Gentoo
root=/dev/hda7
append="Gentoo=nodevfs"
read-only

My Mandriva portion of lilo is the standard one which IMO is way too complicated. I've never understood why they did it that way. Plus I have to run lilo in Mandrake because with my last install Mandrake freaked out when I did it in Gentoo even tho I used Mandrake's default. :huh:

What I forgot to tell ian is that I do this from within mandrake in a chroot environment. Anyway, here goes.

The original instructions are over 45 pages long so this is my condensed version. You'll have to modify it if needed.

 

1. cd to my gentoo partition /mnt/gentoo

2. download tarball using wget

3. unpack tar -xvjpf*.tar.bz2 The asterick is where you would fill in the exact name of your tarball.

4. mount -t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc

5. cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf

6. chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash

7. env-update && source /etc/profile

8. emerge sync, emerge portage

For stage one.

cd /usr/portage

scripts/bootstrap.sh

Stage two skip the above two steps

emerge -u system (this gives you the latest version of system programs)

ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/your time /etc/localtime

nano -w /etc/fstab

cd /usr/src

emerge kernel of choice

ln -s linux* linux *your kernel info

cd linux

make menuconfig

make && make modules_install

cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot

emerge metalog

rc-update add metalog boot

emerge vixie-cron rc-update add vixie-cron default

emerge reiserprog (only if using reiser)

set root password passwd

useradd name -m -G users,wheel,audio, portage,games and any others you want

passwd your name

emerge dhcpcd (if using dhcp) if not see gentoo instructions

nano -w /etc/conf.d/net add two lines from gentoo instruction guide (sorry this has changed so I don't remember the command)

rc-update add net.eth0 default

emerge lilo or grub

emerge udev

install packages

if using nvidia emerge nvidia-kernel && nvidia-glx

edit /etc/rc.conf to set up dm and XSession (such as gnome or kdeversion)

I use kdm but you still do rc-update add xdm default. This is so X loads at start.

after you're done rm -rf /usr/portage/distfiles/* /var/tmp/portage/* to remove temporary files

and of course you have to configure X. /usr/X11R6/bin/xorgconfig

Set your USE flags by doing nano -w /etc/make.conf

I think that's all. I usually remember things as I go along.

No problem phunni. As long as everyone remembers this is my version of how to install and like I said others will do it differently so I expect other Gentoo users to jump in and say something is wrong. To them I say :P

My pm to ian didn't go in my sent box. I'll pm him and ask him to send it back to me so I can copy and paste.

No, I will do that but you have to realize that it's my condensed version designed for my system. Others may do it differently. Let me know if you still want it.

Sure, I'll pm it to you.

Can Linux help Oracle beat IBM? Oracle is duking it out with IBM for database market share, but Linux put Oracle over the top this year.By Owen Thomas, Business 2.0 magazine online editorApril 6, 2006: 5:14 PM EDT

SAN FRANCISCO (Business 2.0 Magazine) - For years, Oracle and IBM have fought over bragging rights for the $8 billion database software market - a key technological battleground upon which sales of almost all other business software depend.Linux as a competitive edgeNow Oracle (Research) seems poised to gain an edge in that battle, thanks to years of work spent adapting its software for Linux.

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On Tuesday, Oracle announced it was donating file-clustering technology to the Linux open-source project, a contribution meant to help make Linux a better operating system for running large databases.That's just the most recent investment Oracle has made in Linux. In its biennial survey of the world's largest databases, WinterCorp, a database research and consulting company, reported that Oracle dominated its list of 175 large databases. For the first time, databases running on Linux appeared on WinterCorp's list -- and all of them came from Oracle.While Oracle and IBM (Research) don't break out database sales in their quarterly results, the research firm Gartner estimates that the companies were neck-and-neck in overall sales for 2004, the most recent figures for which figures are available.Analysts are split on who will win the next market-share battle, but the answer may key on the growth of Linux. In Gartner's survey, almost 60 percent of respondents plan to move their databases to Linux. That stands to reason: The hardware savings alone are staggering.Indeed, Jefferies & Company analyst Robert Schwartz believes that Oracle will take share from IBM and outpace the rest of the database market precisely because of the growth of Linux.Jim Meredith, manager of information systems at tableware retailer Replacements Ltd., says he spent $218,000 to buy a Sun (Research) server four years ago that he has now replaced with four H-P (Research) Linux servers, which cost him $55,000 in total.Meredith is running a version of Oracle's database designed to run across multiple servers. That's a key change from Oracle's older database software, which was designed to run on a single large, expensive server.Wooing the Linux communityOracle started a project six years ago to adapt Linux to large servers. At the time, Linux didn't handle the swapping of large chunks of data well, a flaw which made databases running on Linux unacceptably slow. So, Oracle assigned a team of engineers to the task of improving Linux's performance, and now offers technical support on the operating system to customers running its database and other software on Linux systems.IBM, of course, isn't standing still. Databases are typically used in conjunction with other software, and it's been pushing hard to make its DB2 database software work well with products from other software vendors ranging from Adobe (Research) to SAS. IBM's most important software partner, of course, is SAP, which is Oracle's archrival in the business-application software market.When SAP (Research) sells business applications, it typically recommends IBM's database to go with it. Oracle prefers to sell its own database alongside its business applications, though its software can run with IBM's database.Can Oracle come out on top in Gartner's next survey?Consider that in the last survey, sales of databases for Linux jumped 118 percent -- far outpacing the sales of databases for Windows and Unix. And Oracle had more than 80 percent of the $655 million Linux database market.If those trends continue, Oracle looks set to take the database crown this year.

I do either a stage 1 or stage 2 install. Mostly stage 2's. One of the reasons I like them over stage 3 is there is more control and flexibility. And I like the text install method. They don't give instructions anymore as they say they are for developers but I continue to download the stage2 tarball and do my install the old way.

Mandrake 8.1. I had no idea about how to get started with linux so I went to Best Buy and bought the cheapest linux distro there was on the shelf. It turned out to be the right one.

I'm boring. I put a lot of work into getting a desktop just the way I want and then I leave it until I'm tired of it. :D

ian there's a book out that covers the material you take for the RHCE. From what it says only 60% of the people pass it on their second try. There's also a test you can take on the redhat site that lets you know how ready you are. Sorry, I don't have a link.

One of these days I'm going to try Ubuntu just to see what all the hype is about.

i know this is a dumb suggestion, as i'm SURE you've already done this, and no one would need to mention it to you, but...maybe try setting up sources with easy-urpmi if you're having trouble finding xsane... :P

You're right. That was a dumb suggestion. :P

Anyway, I got it working using Kooka. Thanks for the help everyone!

Thanks spiny. I'll give it a try when I'm back on my daughter's box later.

I just purchased a Canon LIDE 30 because it's supported in Mandriva. It recognized it right away and shows that it's configured correctly. It also installed sane.

Now the problem is that I've been trying to figure out how to run it. I found a site where someone was using the same scanner and they said they launched xsane from a terminal as root to run the scanner. I have no experience with a scanner in Linux.

The problem is that I tried installing xsane and it told me to insert CD1. But typical of Mandriva it couldn't read CD1. So I set up easy-urpmi and it told me there was no package named xsane. I tried googling and couldn't find one. I'm sure there's a simple solution.

Suggestions?

If you'd download all apps and packages for fedora that do exist, you would probably end up with some 10-12 CDs.

<offtopic> Just out of curiousity how many packages are there for Fedora?</offtopic>

iphitus is right, you can't judge a distro just by it's installer.

I personally like Mandriva's installer and think it's one of the best parts of the distro. It's easy to use, it's worked on every box I've ever installed it on and it only takes me 20 - 30 minutes. I really like diskdrake which I've found to be the best partitionioning tool around. Some swear by Anaconda and I don't care for it at all.

With Gentoo it takes me about 24 hours to do complete install on a P4, 3.2 ghz box. But I enjoy a Gentoo install more. It's more of a challenge. I find it fun and don't mind it at all even tho most people complain about all the compiling and install time. But I do it from a chroot environment so I have no downtime at all.

My point is that it's really a matter of preference and different people are going to have different opinions of what is best or not. And it's not just installers it's distros as a whole. There is no wrong or right. Besides we all use Linux and that's the most important thing. :)

Emerge: takes to much time. I want to install KDE in 15 minutes

Maybe so but all I have to do to upgrade kde is emerge sync and emerge -uD world. If there's a newer version it is automatically installed and the old version removed. If I want the latest version of KDE such as kde3.5.1 (I go ~x86 which is stable but not stable enough for x86) I add the kde packages I have installed in package.keywords. I do that with my install and never have to touch it again.

I've never found Mandrake/Mandriva to be unstable and I've used it since 8.1. It's also great at hardware detection as mentioned. I've used it on three different boxes without a prob. And I've had two different printers and a wireless Nic, that I've installed and it's had the drivers for all of them. I have it on my daughter's machine because it's so easy to use.

But I do have to disagree with one thing. I don't particularly care for urpmi and I find Gentoo's package manager, emerge to be much better and Gentoo's portage (package repository) has many more programs than Mandriva. Sorry, just being honest. :P

I voted for Gentoo which would be my first choice anyway with Mandriva being second.

I like Gentoo's flexibility as I can personalize it to my needs. And nothing I've come across can beat portage. It makes upgrading so simple.

paul just out of curousity why do you do an emerge -e system and an emerge -e world? I do an emerge -u system and then install the programs I want afterwards which of course become your world programs.

I've had problems using nvidia lately in gentoo and nv doesn't work at all. It's only recently that I've had problems. For some reason it fails to load and I get an xorg error. Since I don't play games or anything I've switched to vesa and it works just fine.