linux_learner
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i'm am particularly glad about the adblock extension being added to konqueror. thanx for the screenies.
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comming to a desktop near you in......
thats right folks. kde 3.5 is on its way. read here
all the links to screenshots are broken. if yall find any, please post them.
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wrong. they use microsoft because they only know microsoft and perhaps apple. but apple is expensive and has almost no games. so using windows seems like a logical choice... if you don't know that linux or freebsd or other os's exist
this is so true. it is funny how people make assumptions based on a bias or limited information. when i talk with people about linux, they generaly say something like "inst that the operating system that you have to program?" or "isnt that like DOS?". when i tell them that is not the case, that they can point and click arround, their usually quite intruiged. out of fairness, i do let them know that linux is different and to allow time to get used to it.
linux does have quite a selection of games. games that you can run natively or game that you can run through emulation. this is another area i combat when talking with windows users. they commonly think linux has no games. when i let them know that AA, UT, DOOM3 and so on run natively in linux, that usually gets their attention.
why people continue to make the assertion that something is hard because their not used to it is beyond me.
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This isn't true...at all.
I made some friends switch just because I showed them how easy it was to use Linux, when you know a little about it. (Is there any easiest way to install something then Urpmi? seriously?)
The thing is, everyone is tending to say it's more difficult because it is different. Change is always hard to accept, and even more when it's a big change like passing from Windows to Linux.
Yes, there are drawbacks to using linux, like some CLI things to know, wich you don't have to know in Windows. but in Windows, you have to learn somethings that you don't have to use on Linux, like getting rid of those spywares, wich can be complicated at times (I remember having to play in regedit like an hour to remove one that even Ad-aware and Spybot couldn't get rid of)
So what is the main disadvantage of Linux over windows to me? it's different. that's all there is to it. Mandriva installs like a charm, is easy to use/maintain, the only thing that required absolutely to go in CLI was updating my nVidia driver...the others things I had to do or do today have a GUI, and a pretty good gui at that...
Edit: Oh and while I'm at it, I precise: When I had a ton of problem to install XP, it was a genuine version ;)
well said. even windows has the command line. the recovery console is all command line. anyone every restore the registry from the command line?
even though i work for a communications company, and i'm a customer service rep (so my job is not tech support but billing), i still get customers that need help with their pc's. i always hear it from windows users. never from mac users. windows users are the ones that have the problems. infact it is so bad, that when a customer wants high speed internet, i discourage using usb connections for the modem.
sure i know windows users that havent had a "problem". its interesting what is classified a problem to. its interesting how spyware, and viruses are just accepted. i routinely have to inform customers that the international or 900 call on their bill is from the internet. a dialer that was downloaded and installed and dialed often with out their knowledge. they invariably ask me if there is a way to stop this. short of recomending a new OS, i tell them what they can do. set up a guest account, set up web filtering (dansguardian), get firefox, and sure we can add a 900 block, but it may not help with a dialer. i joked with one today about installing a shot gun.
if one reads the news lists from the microsoft site, then one can quickly dismiss that windows is so wonderfull. i used to provide web based tech support to windows users, driver issues were quite common. one of my friends used to work for M$ doing tech support. we all know M$ wont support a pirated version. so we can eliminated piracy as a cause of problems.
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heres a post i wrote at another forum.
But that's what I mean, I just never need to dive that deeply into the matter to fumble with the registry, I just use it and for what I need the computer it's enough.Security is a big issue for me, I get daily updates for my antivirus program and I also have a firewall installed. When I say virus, it's the kind that come with emails which I delete immediately, I didn't mean to say that I ever had my system infected, sorry for the misunderstanding.
It's just my two cents as a Windows user who is not euphoric about this system, but also not in desperate need for a change. I'm going to see if Linux will be able to convince me or not, at least I can access the internet in Linux now, so that helps. Also thank god I found a forum where I get my answers answered, I don't know really many in real life who uses Linux and specifically Suse. The only person I actually know who uses Suse and who I can bug with questions is a penpal (and damn it, that was him who said Suse is so easy :lol: I should have known it, every time he says it's easy he's talking from the point of view of someone who studied computer technology and who's working with robots, not from someone who doesn't even know what the Windows registry really is about. Serves him right I'm killing him with trivial questions now. :lol:)
currious, i never made images. so in that respect, your more "geekish" than i.
you talk about how you dont have to dive deeply, but then mention the registry. i gave several examples, the registry being only one. now what about "the complete idiots guide to windows--" and "windows-- for dummies"? millions of users have blought those books. learning how to maximize, restore, minimize and close windows.
your avoiding the point. the point is, you still have to take time to learn the OS. in windows there are things that you have to learn in order just to run the system, that you do not need to know in linux.
you say security is a big issue, yet you get viruses.the verry fact that you get viruses is indicative of some bad habbits. i am quite aware of what kind of virus you get. viruses usually come in email attachments. viruses have to be downloaded and opened. you doing this tells me that you have some bad habbits.
when i started my transition to linux, i didnt know alot about linux. i barely knew what ntfs was. i was certainly no geek. at that time, all linux was, was just kind of a toy to me. something i'd never heard of, so i was currious about. this was back in the day before apt, urpmi, swaret, or emerge. dependancy hell ruled the land. for those of yo familiar with linux, slack 7.1 is when i started.
i can remember having to compile my first driver to get my winmodem working. hal? whats a hal? how do i find that? whats a chipset? so i can relate to "at least I can access the internet in Linux now".
i've had to slowly unlearn my windows habbits. like reboot, to fix a problem. or if its real bad, format and reinstall.
i mentioned earlier about images and that i didnt know about them, at least until about a year and a half ago (my work uses images. that where i first saw them). linux also does images. partimage. its quite similar to norton ghost.
now before you go and think that linux is to hard, my 7 year old girl and my wife use linux. neither are geeks. both are less knowledgable about computers then you. my wife has managed to successfully fix a couple problems on her own.
its not that linux is anymore hard, its that linux is different. this is one of my pet peives about windows users comming over to linux. saying that linux should be easier, more like windows. there are reasons why we consider linux anyway. to make linux like windows defeats that purpose. try suse 7.0 or before to get a feel of the way things were 5 years ago. no hotplugger, no apt. i guess this would be like having to edit *.init files in windows (which i can remember doing).
when i first installed slack 7.0, i ended up calling tech support to get it installed. only to find out i had over complicated things. back then, i didnt have forums, and the support i got from the net was irc. in which their typical responce was RTFM.
what i know about windows, i've had to teach myself. listen to me here. i've had to teach myself. learning windows, took a long time and was just as frightening and frustrating. in the end, it was that i cant go fix things to the extent i can in linux. in windows you are limited as to what you can and can not do.
for example, i can make windows extremely secure. almost as secure as linux, where viruses become a non issue, but doing this has huge consequences.
i have also trashed linux. i have trashed it to what i thought was the point where i had to reinstall. when you trash about 300 packages, then your in a position to either reinstall, or learn a hell of a lot. technically, i could fix that. as long as i have the kernel, its fixable. since i've been in suse (about a year and a half now. since 9.0), i've never had to reinstall.
when you run into the ntfs.drv problem, there is no solution but to reinstall windows. the recovery console will not see the partition. there are other problems with windows where reinstall is the only solution.
when i first got XP, i was euphoric. people mistook me for an XP salesman :blink: i beta tested XP, then liked it so much i bought it. then the tide turned with sp1. i saw how M$ sat on a vulnerability and told people not to disclose it to the world (uplddrvinfo.htm in the pchealth directory). they sat on that and squelched that info for 11 months. i wrote M$ and told them "never again". i told them, i'd never buy another M$ product again. this was only one of many reasons why i dropped M$. alot of it had to do with stability. when you spend all day, fixing and maintaining your system, thats no fun. thats exactly what i had to do with windows. ME was nigtmarish. XP at least i could work with.
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i take it you've never struggled with windows. everything just worked. thats nice. what about times when you install a driver that supposed to work and it causes a BSOD? what about drivers becomming corrupt? driver conflicts? no? never had any of these? must be nice indeed.
linux isnt any more difficult than windows, but it is different. do not confuse difference with difficulty.
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IIRC ever since sco, unix has been on the down swing and linux has been said to be gaining on unix. the articles comparing M$ gaining to unix, i thought was amusing in this light, since unix is/was on the down swing. M$ comparing themselves to someone loosing ground.....
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialne...d=apn_tech_down
http://www.serverwatch.com/news/article.php/2215611
Overall, the Unix market declined 12.9 percent to $4.3 billion from 1Q03. IDC attributes this to a decline in average sales prices, especially for midrange and high-end enterprise Unix server systems."The intense price competition between the top three Unix server vendors continues to make the No. 1 position in the Unix server market -- including Unix servers based on RISC and on x86 architectures -- difficult to predict," said Jean S. Bozman, research vice president of Global Enterprise Server Solutions at IDC. "This quarter, HP appears to have leveraged its merger with Compaq to pull even with Sun for leadership of the worldwide Unix server market. However, IDC expects that the leading vendors will continue to compete for market leadership in coming quarters."
The rapidly growing Linux server market increased 35 percent to $583 million from the year-ago quarter. "Unit growth and factory revenue in the Linux market continue to climb, driven by increasing functionality for Linux server hardware and software and by intense competition between all the major server vendors," said Bozman. "While HP continues to lead the Linux market, Dell and IBM are working hard to post market share gains in the Linux server market."
just some observations that i made about the original article.
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i read the same article and laughed. now read this http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2137317/...rver-sales-boom just as a comparison
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lol. who isnt? the moment you stop learning......your dead.
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Don't like it. Reasons in order of importance:
Not open-source
Java problems
Ugly
Cluttered
Poor ease-of-use
Less choice of extensions/plugins
lol. i'll agree on a few points.
not open source, yep. i agree there.
java probs? nope.
ugly? a matter of perspective. they have more themes than any other browser.
poor ease of use? also a matter of perspective.
less choice of extensions.....thats absolutely true.
cluttered? a matter of opinion there.
my wife and i run opera and firefox simultaneously. when i'm using firefox, she'll leave her opera up and vise versa.
i also use konqueror, epiphany, galeon and mozilla. other than firefox, konqueror is my favorite. but yes, i actually leave my apps up an running.
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my wife runs opera and has since 6. she now has 8. i run firefox. we use the same box, so its a side by side comparison. i have done a timed test.
> time -p opera opera: Activated running instance real 3.02 user 1.09 sys 0.08
> time -p firefox real 2.21 user 0.02 sys 0.02
you try it. based on this test, firefox is faster.
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pretty much nailed me.
We found 2 perfect match(es):MEPIS
MEPIS Linux is a desktop Linux system that is also easy to configure as a dedicated server. It is designed for both personal and business purposes. It includes cutting-edge features such as a live/installation/recovery CD, automatic hardware configuration, NTFS partition resizing, ACPI power management, WiFi support, anti-aliased TrueType fonts, a personal firewall, KDE, and much more.
SuSE
SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 includes all of the latest desktop productivity tools to help you with your most common home computing tasks. Whether it's instant messaging and commmunicating with friends, creating and designing graphics, or organizing digital picture and music files, you'll find what you need on our easy-to-use desktop. And to make finding things even easier, we've included a preview of the latest Linux desktop search technology: Beagle* the powerful new open source search engine that puts all of the content in your personal information space at your fingertips. Plus, powerful tools for spam blocking and virus scanning are built right in.
i run suse 9.3
it also said:
mandriva (i've run mandrake before and like it quite a bit, it;d be my second choice. and yes i know you can get it for free)
desktop lx ( tried this before, and it failed miserably. i couldnt do things like compile software. apparently they dont include make, and gcc and such).
yellowdog (never tried it)
fedora core ( technically i have never tried fedora core, but i have tried redhat. i dont like the way redhat configures things. so i dont imagine i'd like fedora core either).
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arno's firewall and ipkungfu are good alternatives, and so are, firestarter and guarddog (for those that like gui's the last two are good).
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that book is one of the best books i have read. its one book i read pretty much cover to cover.
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can i vote? i dont use mandriva, so i wouldnt need the updates, but i think its a good idea.
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I think the problem with suse not playing mp3 unless you ripped out half of KDE is increased in suse 9.3.
Madpenguin's review said so.
Maybe the older version doesn't have this problem, or at least not this bad.
then to follow up, i think its only fair to mention that there is an easy enough fix. http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e...5-Apr/0665.html
Yes, there are optional packages called 'multimedia packs' on the YOU> server now, you can have a look at them. They need to be selected
> manually, just like the nvidia driver or the MS truetype fonts, and they
> have a warning attached saying only use if legal in your jurisdiction (or
> words to that effect)
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/suse/i386/update/9....-1-52079;type=a
is the text file to peruse pertaining to mp3 libraries.
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/suse/i386/update/9.3/patches/ is the general
directory.
> > The MadPenguin article implies that SUSE deliberately
> > compiled all MP3 capable programs without MP3 support; is this not
> > correct?
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> No, it is incorrect. mp3 support in most programs come from shared
> libraries. Libraries missing = no support, libraries present = support.
> There is rarely a need to hard code something like that.
whenever i read a news story or a review, i always verify it for accuracy.
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oh, and one final thing - if you want to avoid tinkering to make things work, and your 'things' include MP3s and DVDs, think twice about SUSE. Not spreading FUD here, it's a fine distro, but unfortunately they have a conservative legal department and so their media apps don't play MP3s (except RealPlayer) and are hacked not to play DVDs even if you replace libdvdcss (AFAIK, some people dispute this). So if you want to play MP3s and DVDs in Kaffeine you're going to have to find an alternative package source (I hear packman is the one to use) and rip out half your KDE packages, which I guess counts as tinkering. Stupid patent laws.
since i run suse, and have run suse since 9.0, i am qualified to speak here. while part of what adamw says is true, it is an extreme exaggeration. yes you need packman for libs and such, just as mdk needs plf. packman really is the mdk equivalent to plf. i play mp3's constantly on my system through xmms, mplayer, kplayer, kaffiene, totem, amarok and so on. no it didnt involve ripping out kde. i am running kde 3.4 now.
if i remember right, mp3's do play right out of the box. its the dvd's you need packman for. you need to get libdvdcss and libdvdnav, and libdvdread and such. i also have this on my system with out any adverse affect to kde.
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try looking up GUID and chown. these would be more appropriate.
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i think i have a lead on why my fonts are blurry. http://www.xfree86.org/current/fonts2.html#4
# xset q Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: Protocol not supported by server xset: unable to open display ":0.0"
so how do i fix this?
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http://code.google.com/index.html
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Do have aa turned on aa for all sized fonts? In the kde control center, look & feel, fonts if you turn on aa it excludes font size 8-15 (click settings and unceck). If you have a TFT screen turn on subpixel hinting. If you have installed newer/non-default freetype packages you're better of reinstalling. I once spend a week trying to fix my fonts after I installed plfs freetype. Nothing worked.
i tried anti-aliasing it doesnt seem to help. i got this pc 3 weeks ago. this is a clean install. i am sorry, but i am not about to reinstall. there has to be a solution to this.
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linux: um, no, apt4rpm can happily *support* suggested dependencies, but my point is that none of the official MDK packages is actually built to *include* any suggested dependencies, and rebuilding all the packages that way would be a lot of work. Or are you saying that, for instance, if you use apt on MDK to install totem, it suggests a bunch of optional but useful gstreamer packages? I'd be rather surprised.
try it. you just maybe surprised.
:D 
The same calender on 2 machines?
in Everything Linux
Posted · Edited by linux_learner
yes, mozillasunbird http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/sunbird.html