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yeah, that's the same place I used last year for instructions. Still didn't go all smooth & easy. I don't remember what the problems were. After a few posts here, it was working. I'll start a new thread later if I have the same trouble with FC3 and java. I need the SDK, not the JRE. Well, after using Grip to rip some of my CDs last night, its not as bad as I remembered. Actually, I like it now. Maybe I'm finally coming around to the linux/open source way of doing things. Now if can ever burn a DVD backup of a DVD movie with linux, I won't need my winblows computer anymore.

well, yesterday I yum installed grip. I'm surprised that it wasn't in my original install. Probably cuz I selected Workstation install instead of the Home Desktop install. I did look over each category of default software though, and marked some things that were not selected. Guess I didn't notice grip was not checked. Anyway, so far I like FC3. I'm getting all set up how I used to be on FC2 - all my bookmarks, etc. Unfortunately I don't have my email history anymore. I forgot to back up my FC2 tbird email before I installed FC3 on top of it. I'm dreading getting java sdk set up on FC3. I had a hell of a time getting it on FC2 last year - had to get a lot of help from this place. What CD ripping options do I have besides grip? I guess grip is OK, but what else is available - does k3b do ripping?

I suppose, but the companies are clearly not in the same business. Kelloggs took Exxon to court because of Exxon's use of their "friendly tiger" logo that looked similar to Kellogg's Tony the Tiger. Court ruled that even though the logos were similar, they said that people wouldn't confuse an oil company with a breakfast foods company. So too bad for Kelloggs....

I know you were being humorous, and not seriously suggesting those names. Still, ConDrakula is funny & clever at the same time. I definately don't like anything with "driva" in it. I agree with whoever said it sounds like spit or drivel...

they all stink. I like ConDrakula (from Dyslexic) over on the original thread.

hmmm... does FC3 even install grip ? I looked for it but can't find it. Also, Sound Juicer still says that a Quality Setting is "coming soon!" Last year it was "coming soon" too... What's the default quality setting on Sound Juicer? The so-called help screens don't mention anything about what quality setting it uses. The sound juicer in my fc3 install is something like 0.5.14, but when I go to the sound juicer website, it shows the latest version being 2.10. what gives?

well, I got the above 2 problems fixed. Last night I did a "yum update" and let it run overnight. This morning, without doing anything else, my screen resolution allowed me to pick higher numbers than 800x600 and flash now works in firefox. Guess I should have done a yum update first off after installing FC3, so to get an entirely updated distro.

I finally got around to installing a newer distro than FC2 (which I liked alot). I used an FC3 DVD that was a coverdisc on a lilnux mag. I spent a couple of nights backing up stuff in my home dir (was under / and not separate) and then did a fresh install of FC3 over FC2. Hopefully I correctly made a separate home dir during manual partitioning. In the past, I've always selected "automatic partitioning" during install, and so end up with home under /. Anyway, first I deleted the original yum.conf and went to fedorafaq and copied and pasted their yum.conf into a new file. Then I imported all the gpg keys, then I did the flash-plugin install, and nvidia install (both with yum) as recommended by fedorafaq. I actually copied and pasted their statements into my # console. Yum reported that both things installed successfully. However, when I go to sites that use flash (I'm using firefox) the sites don't display the flash and they say I need to install flash. also my screen resolution looks like crap. It is set on 800x600 and won't let me select anything other than that or 640x480. I have a 19" LCD monitor and 800x600 looks like you know what. So, what else do I have to do to get flash working, and why didn't my yum install of the nvidia driver do anything, even though yum reported everything successful?

I suppose it could be a hardware problem. However, it does complete POST (very slow though). For quite a while now (several months) it has taken about 10 minutes for a "cold" startup, but only a couple minutes for a warm boot. So maybe it has been a problem that has progressively gotten worse. I've been browsing around this board reading mdk 10 threads, and I'm getting cold feet about trying out mdk. Alot of posts are complaining about Firefox not opening from email links, Konq opening when people don't want it to, and various installation problems. Firefox & thunderbird work great on my FC2 machine, Firefox is the only browser that ever opens up on my machine. From what I've read in various reviews, mdk 10 is supposed to be the easiest distro in terms of administration... hard to see that from browsing this board, though. Course it makes sense that, since this is a mandrake board, most complaints will be about mandrake... If I buy a mdk 10.1 powerpack dvd (to support mandrake) can I install what I want all from the dvd (stuff like firefox, thunderbird, eclipse)? I getting tired of "doing the yum" (yum is broken on my fc2 box now, and I didn't even do anything to it). I just want to stick a dvd in the drive, and pick what I want... (and that reminds me - I'm tired of making things work - like music & video while browsing the web (installing mplayer plugins, etc), fixing mp3 listening problems (xmms plugin), blah blah. Does this stuff work out of the box with mdk...? sorry to get a little off on this post, but at least it is somewhat related, since the original post references "installing mdk"

Win2k is already installed but not booting. I got the 2nd HD to install linux on. I am hoping that the win2k booting problem can be fixed without reinstall. Anyway, guess I will figure out what's wrong with winblows (ha ha - here come the jokes...) and re-install if I have to, and THEN install linux. Thanks

yeah, I've been just waiting for MS to come out with a new version of IE with Tabbed Browsing, and all sorts of great new features - that firefox has had forever... and then act like they invented it...

my secondary machine, win2k, died on me today. It just won't finish booting. It completes the POST, and says it is loading windows... but 30 minutes later.... still nothing... Once or twice it actually got to the sign on screen, and I did my usual sign on, and it says "Loading your personal settings..." like it always does, but 30 minutes later... still no furthur... Before this happened, today I bought a W-D 160Gb H-D (only $79, what a deal) to install as a 2nd drive in my win2k machine. I was intending to install the newest mdk. So anyway, I installed the drive (as Slave on the primary IDE), my original 40Gb drive is still Master. So I want to install mdk 10.1 OE on the brand new HD. I'll try to fix winblows later. I'm just checking if there are any warnings. I don't really have anything real important on my original drive that has win2k on it. So my question is, since the new drive is unformatted, when I install from the mdk CDs, can I install it to the new drive? I probably want to partition it into 2 drives - say 100Gb as FAT32, and 60 as a linux partition. Should I partition it during the mdk install, or should I fix winblows first, and use Disk Management to partition the 100Gb I want to be FAT32, and then use the mdk install to partition the remaining 60Gb for linux? Finally, if I install mdk while winblows is broken, and then later I re-install win2k, will winblows mess up anything? It shouldn't - since mdk will be on the 160Gb drive, and win2k will be on the original 40Gb drive.... edit: I just read the Dual Boot How-to in Tips & Tricks written by Static. After reading that, it doesn't look like there will be any problems... especially with 2 drives.

thanks, I did that. However, after you select the name of the printer (while in CUPS printer admin), you have to enter a Location, and then it asks for a Device. :unsure:

I did name the shared printer. "HP6540" I think. I was thinking that maybe I would also have to name some kind of "workgroup" on the windows side - like "home" or something. Then samba would recognize the home network. But, guess not. I have browsed thru some samba books, but they seem more complex than simple home networking stuff.

I bought an HP 6540 printer and connected it to my win2k machine via usb. To print to this computer from my linux box (both computers are connected to a dhcp router) I'll have to try out samba. What do I need to do an my win2k box before messing with samba on my linux machine? I right-clicked on the printer and said Share this Printer. anything else to do on the winblows side?

I guess my primary goal is to have one printer available to the linux box & the win2k box. Sharing files is secondary to that. I suppose the first step is to go out and buy an HP printer, and then go from there. I'll connect the printer to my win2k box. I have some stuff I need to print on my linux box. I'll just put the files on my usb stick and plug the stick into my winbox, and print from there. That'll work until I get myself connected.

If I make my win2k machine a dual-boot, say with mdk 10.1, would I still need samba for that machine to communicate with my main FC2 machine? I mean, if mandrake on the dual-boot box can read the win2k files, couldn't my FC2 box also read read the windoze files...? If my win2k box is ntfs, should I make a partition as fat, and then move the files I want to share to the fat partition. Can you non-destructively repartition an existing ntfs area as fat...? thanks

I like Linux Format magazine, but only occasionally buy it - too damn expensive here (US) - over $16 after tax. Anyway, the current issue has a 15-distro comparo. thought it was pretty interesting. They picked mdk 10.1 as #1. FC3 as a close 2nd. Reason they chose mdk was that it "spoils you with easy administration...". They thought FC3 was just a great distro but not a easy to administer as mdk 10.1. I may put one or the other on my old win2k box, and make it a dual-boot.

ok, thanks. I recently found out my neighbor is a systems technician (mostly windows), So he knows all about networking and stuff. After I get (with his help if necessary) my win2k machine set up on a home network, I'll get help with linux/samba from you guys... Guess I'll just get a mid-range HP printer for $80 or $100.

I want to do the home network thing, so I just have a couple of preliminary questions. First the facts: I have a linux box as my main machine, a win2k box as a 2nd machine, and no printer at this time. Both machines are cabled to a NetGear MR814v2 wireless router. I use both machines separately for different things. I'd like both machines to see each other on a home network, and I'd also like to buy a HP deskjet printer and connect it directly to my win2k box, and print to it from either box. Now the questions. Can I just get any cheap HP printer for this? In other words, I'm wondering what "network ready" means when referring to a printer... Some HP printers say that they are "network ready". Does that matter for what I want to do? Another question, I assume what I want to do requires samba. Would my linux box be able to get files from my win2k box (but maybe not write files - I probably have ntfs). Would my win2k box be able to read/write to my linux box? Instead of connecting a printer locally to my win2k box, could I connect a "network ready" printer to my router (it has one connection not being used)? I'm not ready to start doing this yet, I just want to get some things straight first. Thanks.

I was hoping it would be something simple, like make the new home dir and then copy everything from the old dir to the new. But I guess that's stupid - if you make a new home dir it would still be under root, so nothing gained. Has to be partitioned as a new home dir. When I moved from win2k to FC2, I got all my personal files off of my win2k box and onto my FC2 box the hard way... (usb stick). I don't know about networking them together yet, but I'd like to. I do have a CD burner on my FC2 box. I've been wanting to replace it with a DVD burner though. My home dir is currently around 9.2 Gb (alot of music files). I suppose I should burn off some of those to CDs so as to make my home dir smaller and easier to backup. I'll have to start another thread about networking a win2k and FC box together, would make life easier. can you expand on that...? you mean if I copy them from FC to win2k via a home network connection, and then copy them back the same way, then that will happen...?

I'm still plugging away on FC2, which I installed over 6 mos. ago. I pretty much like it. Being a casual home user, I wonder if its worth it to install FC3... Back when I installed FC2, unfortunately I just let the installer do what it wanted to do with partitions. So as a result, my home dir is not a separate directory. Is there an easy way to make a separate /home directory and copy my home stuff into it... Then I guess I could install FC3 and still have my old home stuff unharmed...

yeah, I only buy AMDs for my desktops. I just didn't know if it made a diff in a laptop. that's good to know. I saw several used laptops today with Centrinos in them. yeah, I knew that about desktops, but I didn't know if it was also true for laptops. thanks. thanks for all the comments about laptops. I'll check around on the linux-laptop website to pickup some more pointers before I get anything.

yeah, I've been there a few times. I'll check that place out a few more times before buying anything. I was just wondering what pointers some people here had, or warnings. Like does it matter to modern linux distros what chip you have in a laptop? When I was at a laptop store today, I saw laptops with: Pentium-4, Pentium-M, Celeron, AMD-M, Sempron, and Centrino. It probably doesn't matter to linux. Is built-in wireless a better choice over using a wireless card in a laptop? Does any linux distro work better than other distros when installed on a laptop as a dual-boot with windows? I don't really have a distro preference. I use FC2 on my desktop and I like it, but I'd like to try mandrake again (10.1 OE) if I get a laptop.

I don't know much about laptops since I've never owned one, and I've hardly ever used one. I know the linux laptop sites, and I have browsed around them, and I intend to browse them some more, but I still like to know what people here think... I don't have any brand preference, and I'll probably buy a used one. I want wireless internet. Would prefer one with a DVD burner / CD burner combo drive, 512Mb. Don't know if nvidia/ATI video matters for notebooks with linux. I will use it just for normal home-user type stuff - browse internet, burn CDs & DVDs, open office, etc. I'm sure it will have win2000 or XP on it, so I will want to install a newer linux distro as a dual-boot - probably mandrake 10.1 OE... Is there anything to watch out for when buying a laptop to use linux on? As I said, I'll probably buy a used one - but not a very old one. I'll be sure to browse around on the linux laptop sites before buying anything, but I like to hear MUB members opinions also. thanks