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  1. the symlink command is

    ln -s /usr/java/path/to/'plugin' /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/'plugin'

    Isn't there a period "." missing in the end, or just the absolute path to the mozilla plugins directory?

    Something like:

    ln -s /usr/java/path/to/'plugin' /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/'plugin' .

    or:

    ln -s /usr/java/path/to/'plugin' /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/'plugin' /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins

     

    I guess you could put the link in either /usr/lib/mozilla or /usr/lib/mozilla-1.4. At elast my mozilla 1.3.1 seems to find and use all plugins found in either or both those directories.

  2. Thanks for your answers, but sill no luck... yet.

     

    bvc:

    Running Mozilla from a terminal gives absolutelly nothing. It just closes when trying to access a webmail or forum page.

    Galeon gives no output/errors on the terminal, but does show a message-window saying 'segmentation fault'. Also gives a link to the GNOME bug-report site, but that doesn't work either. So nest, you press 'Ok' and it closes.

     

    chris z:

    By the time I used urpmi.update, I had also updated my Java version to 1.4.2_02. Got back to 1.4.1_03, but still no luck.

    I haven't checked Mozilla's support page yet, but I will when I get some time.

     

    Again, thanks for your answers.

  3. Since I issued "urpmi.update --auto-select" (successfully), I started having problems with both Mozilla and Gaelon (I gues this one for sharing stuff from the first). They crash when loging in a Webmail or php forum (like this one ;). Konqueror and Links still work fine.

    I use Mandrake 9.1 and FluxBox.

    Trying to update Mozilla and/or libnss3 to the 9.2 versions (or the Cooker's) doesn't work - I didn't have any source for them installed when I issued urpmi-update, so the current install is still a 9.1. I get some error on account of dependencies -package "don't-remember-what" can't be retrieved.

     

    Any thoughts? :unsure:

  4. Hello again,

     

    I'd very much like to comment on the last posts, but, as I said, I have no time now... Still, I came by to share, with those of you who haven't signed FFII's newsletters, their latest (not the only one since the one that started this topic). So here it goes:

     

    FFII News -- For Immediate Release -- Please Redistribute

    +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++

     

      EU Software Patent Directive plans shelved amid massive 

    demonstrations

     

            Brussels 2003/09/01

     

          For Immediate Release

     

      On Aug 28th, the European Parliament postponed its vote on the 

    proposed

      EU Software Patent Directive. The day before, approximately 500 

    persons

      had gathered for a rally beside the Parliament in Brussels, 

    accompanied

      by an online demonstration involving more than 2000 websites. The 

    events

      in and near the Parliament were extensively in many news channels,

      including tv and radio, across Europe and the world. Within a few 

    days,

      the petition calling the European Parliament to reject software

      patentability accumulated 50,000 new signatures.

     

    Details

     

      Last Wednesday, August 27th, several organisations called for a

      demonstration in Brussels and for an on-line demonstration against 

    the

      proposed EU "software patent directive" COM(2002)92, euphemistically

      titled "on the patentability of computer-implemented inventions".

     

      Citizens demonstrated in front of the European Parliament, wearing 

    black

      t-shirts and launching black balloons "to symbolise their sorrow for 

    the

      innovation that the EU would lose if it approved a monopoly regime 

    on

      computer based solutions as the Commission and the JURI report 

    propose",

      as one of the organisers explained. Surrounded by banners and patent

      tombstones, several speeches were held and a pantomime play was 

    performed

      which showed the EU bureaucracy helping wealthy corporations to 

    strangle

      small innovative software enterprises.

     

      In spite of the short notice (it was only announced one week in 

    advance),

      the online demonstration, calling to substitute homepages by a 

    protest

      page for all of Wednesday, was followed by over 2800 websites. Among

      those were important websites such as those of the biggest Spanish 

    labour

      union Comisiones Obreras, the Andalusian CGT union, the French 

    SPECIS;

      large associations of computer professionals such as ATI.es, AI2 and

      Prosa.dk; user associations like SSLUG, Hispalinux, Asociación de

      Internautas, AFUL and GUUG; software projects like Apache 

    (developers of

      the most used web server in the world, with over 25 million

      installations), PHP (a very popular programing language), the two 

    main

      free desktop projects (KDE and GNOME); operating system 

    distributions

      LinEx, Slackware, Debian, Knoppix and Mandrake; civil rights

      associations, distributed development platform Savannah (hosting 

    over

      1500 projects), companies, weblogs, personal websites...

     

      The strike coincided with initiatives by new players, including 

    national

      associations of SMEs, national labor unions, the internet sections 

    of the

      French Parti Socialiste and German Social Democratic Party, and a

      [16]group of economists, all of whom sent letters to members of the

      European Parliament, warning them of faulty reasoning in the JURI 

    report

      and catastrophic consequences for the European economy.

     

      The Parliament was already [17]divided in June, when it 

    [18]postponed

      the decision to September. The massive protest among computer

      professionals, software companies and computer users, and its echo 

    in

      the press on the Internet, radio and television, appear to have

      further eroded the directive's support in the European Parliament 

    and

      encouraged various party groups to come out with new amendment

      proposals. The presidents of the transnational groups decided in a

      meeting on thursday afternoon to postpone the debate again from the

      planned European Parliament plenary session of Monday September 1st.

      The debate and vote may now take place in the next session 

    (September

      22-25) or at a later date, subject to decision next week. The

      directive has been controversial since its publication on 

    2002-02-20,

      and decisions have been delayed already seven times from the 

    initially

      scheduled vote of 2002-12-16.

     

      During a conference in the European Parliament on Wednesday 

    14.00-16.00,

      Reinier Bakels, a dutch law scholar who had written a study on the

      directive at the order of the European Parliament, criticised:

     

        This directive proposal brings no clarity and no harmonisation. It 

    is

        unclear and contradictory both on its aims and on the means of

        achieving these aims. The European Parliament can not be expected 

    to

        repair such a fundamentally broken directive proposal. The best 

    thing

        the Parliament can do is to send this proposal back to the 

    Commission

        and demand that an interdisciplinary group of experts should work 

    out a

        new proposal.

     

      Hartmut Pilch, president of FFII and speaker of the Eurolinux

      Alliance, agreed to this, but added:

     

        We hope that MEPs can, during the coming 3 weeks, understand that

        almost every single article and every single recital of this 

    directive

        needs major amendments, if a clear limitation of patentability is 

    to be

        achieved. We have proposed a set of amendments[26] which could do 

    the

        job and has received backing by a large part ot the interested

        communities[27]. Many of these amendments have already been or are

        being tabled by MEPs from various political groups. By voting for 

    these

        amendments, MEPs can prompt the Commission and the Council to come 

    up

        with a new proposal, this time based on a serious assessment of 

    the

        interests of all parties and a verifiable solution to the 

    problems,

        without any more doublespeak or ambiguous terminology.

     

    Annotated Links

     

      -> [19]Draft Press Release 200000

              Report about the successes of the Demo in BXL, focussing on 

    the

              rise in number of petition signatures.

     

      -> [20]CORDIS 2003-08-28: Draft legislation on patenting 

    computerised

              inventions will stifle innovation, claim protestors

              An official EU news agency reports about the demo, with an

              interview of Peter Gerwinski from FFII

     

              see also [21]CORDIS: MEPs vote to tighten up rules on

              patentability of computerised inventions

     

    Media Contacts

     

      mail:

              media at ffii org

     

      phone:

              Hartmut Pilch +49-89-18979927

     

              More Contacts to be supplied upon request

     

    About the Eurolinux Alliance -- www.eurolinux.org

     

      The EuroLinux Alliance for a Free Information Infrastructure is an

      open coalition of commercial companies and non-profit associations

      united to promote and protect a vigourous European Software Culture

      based on copyright, open standards, open competition and open source

      software such as Linux. Corporate members or sponsors of EuroLinux

      develop or sell software under free, semi-free and non-free licenses

      for operating systems such as GNU/Linux, MacOS or MS Windows.

     

    About the FFII -- www.ffii.org

     

      The Foundation for a Free Information Infrastructure (FFII) is a

      non-profit association registered in Munich, which is dedicated to 

    the

      spread of data processing literacy. FFII supports the development of

      public information goods based on copyright, free competition, open

      standards. More than 250 members, 300 companies and 15,000 

    supporters

      have entrusted the FFII to act as their voice in public policy

      questions in the area of exclusivity rights (intellectual property) 

    in

      the field of software.

     

    Permanent URL of this Press Release

     

      http://swpat.ffii.org/news/03/demo0827/index.en.html

     

    Annotated Links

     

      -> [22]2003/08/25-9 BXL: Software Patent Directive Amendments

              Members of the European Parliament are coming back to work on

              monday August 25th. It is the last week before the vote on 

    the

              Software Patent Directive Proposal. We are organising a

              conference and street rally wednesday the 27th. Some of our

              friends will moreover be staying in the parliament for 

    several

              days. Time to work decide on submission of amendments to the

              software patent directive proposal is running out. FFII has

              proposed one set of amendments that stick as closely as

              possible to the original proposal while debugging and 

    somewhat

              simplifying it. An alternative small set of amendments would

              "cut the crap" and rewrite the directive from scratch. We

              present and explain the possible approaches.

     

      -> [23]Online Demonstration Against Software Patents

              We can show our concern by physical presence as well as by 

    more

              or less gently blocking access to webpages in a concerted

              manner at certain times.

     

      -> [24]Vote in 8 days: 2000 IT bosses urge European Parliament to 

    say

              NO to software patents

              A "Petition for a Free Europe without Software Patents" has

              gained more than 150000 signatures. Among the supporters are

              more than 2000 company owners and chief executives and 25000

              developpers and engineers from all sectors of the European

              information and telecommunication industries, as well as more

              than 2000 scientists and 180 lawyers. Companies like Siemens,

              IBM, Alcatel and Nokia lead the list of those whose 

    researchers

              and developpers want to protect programming freedom and

              copyright property against what they see as a "patent

              landgrab". Currently the patent policy of many of these

              companies is still dominated by their patent departments. 

    These

              have intensively lobbied the European Parliament to support a

              proposal to allow patentability of "computer-implemented

              inventions" (recent patent newspeak term which usually refers

              to software in the context of patent claims, i.e. algorithms

              and business methods framed in terms of generic computing

              equipment), which the rapporteur, UK Labour MEP Arlene

              McCarthy, backed by "patent experts" from the socialist and

              conservative blocks, is trying to rush through the European

              Parliament on June 30, just 13 days after she had won the 

    vote

              in the Legal Affairs Committe (JURI).

     

      -> [25]FFII: Software Patents in Europe

              For the last few years the European Patent Office (EPO) has,

              contrary to the letter and spirit of the existing law, 

    granted

              more than 30000 patents on computer-implemented rules of

              organisation and calculation (programs for computers). Now

              Europe's patent movement is pressing to consolidate this

              practise by writing a new law. Europe's programmers and

              citizens are facing considerable risks. Here you find the 

    basic

              documentation, starting from a short overview and the latest

              news.

     

    References

     

      16. http://swpat.ffii.org/news/03/ekon0820/index.en.html

      17. http://swpat.ffii.org/news/03/plen0620/index.en.html

      18. http://swpat.ffii.org/news/03/plen0626/index.en.html

      19. http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/PressRelease200000

      20. 

    http://dbs.cordis.lu/cgi-bin/srchidadb?CAL...801&TBL=EN_NEWS

      21. 

    http://dbs.cordis.lu/cgi-bin/srchidadb?CAL...EN_RCN_ID:20436

      22. http://swpat.ffii.org/events/2003/europarl...8/index.en.html

      23. http://swpat.ffii.org/group/demo/index.en.html

      24. http://swpat.ffii.org/news/03/epet0622/index.en.html

      25. http://swpat.ffii.org/index.en.html

      26. http://swpat.ffii.org/papers/eubsa-swpat02...p/index.en.html

      27. 

    http://swpat.ffii.org/papers/eubsa-swpat02...s/index.en.html

     

     

     

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  5. lxthusdan:

    First of all: I am NOT a socialist!

    Second of all: The official "bad girl" in this european patent story (in my eyes) IS a socialist!

    Third of all: The socialist partys in the European Parliament are DIVIDED about this question.

    Fourth of all: Considering points 1, 2 and 3, I still don't understand how this "socialist" discussion came up in this topic!...

    Fifth of all: I think it could be interesting to discuss "socialism" in another topic. But I will probably not come around this forum until the end of the next week (due to lack of time). So, if you prefer to pm me, you know when you'll get the answer...

    Sixth of all: I will NOT use the term "socialist" in this topic again!

     

    I gather what you mean by your words in the context of how you use them.

    I thank you for your good will. :wink:

     

    Gowator:

    Staying carefully away from political terms ...

    I think lots of things need reinterpreting into a modern context regardless of political ideals.

    First line: Wise :wink:

    Second line: I call it 'pragmatism'.

     

    What if someone patents the concept of a Bulletin Board? Its a valid concept .. perhaps. Who knows? The point is patent's were not designed for software. Someone could patent the idea of a customer database or order database but these are generic ideas they lack the concept of originality. Computers and the Internet in general open up a whole field of ideas. We are building on foundations just a few decades old.

    That's exactly the point here. Go and see the directive proposal on the EU's site ( http://www.europa.eu.int/ ) or on FFII's site ( http://swpat.ffii.org/ ). It's messy, it's ilogic, yet psychologicaly effective (Yeah, I thought I was getting paranoid too when I got to that conclusion). You have to remember, politicians are just human beings linke any other, and can not be experts on all subjects - their judgement often depends on other people. You can also go and look on the FFII's "Gallery of Patent Horrors". Some are rather comic!

    Thank you for your post. You brought up some good points. :wink:

     

    JaseP

    First of all, let me apologize for maybe having come too strong on you on my last post. Thank you for the infos on the american legal system. I had no idea about Louisiana. I did now about you having different laws in different states.

    But when it concerns to repudiating treaties, well... a "break of contract" is not something I, personally, take lightly. And, in this particular matter, you can't just put it in terms of "Well, both parts agree on that" because you'll be thinking of the governments, not the individuals who planned their lifes based on the current law.

    As a note, I will not comment on you know what, for the reasons mentioned above. But I found your words about Capitalism a bit confusing. But I would rather we were not going there, because it's both off-topic and a lenghty subject. We can go on about it in another topic, maybe the one we mentioned before or maybe another.

    Still, coming back to your first topic, the patent system being an economic "atta boy", you must also remember that the economy shoud serve the public first. It makes no sense to support a product or business which were to be useless, nor to charge irrealistic prices for a given product or service. You get the idea.. You can't boost the economy on nomatter what costs... :wink:

     

    Cheers,

  6. Hi everyone,

     

    I appreciate your comments on this. I know it's not an easy topic...

    And, as I am not an expert on the question (go to FFII for that ;), but did do some homework (a few months ago, I confess, no time...), I'll just reread your posts and freely comment along the way.

     

    Roland, your small example about IBM and SUN is right AFAICS. Wile the big guys play their 'dimes', the little ones can't even afford a patent (an european patent costs between 50000 and 150000 Euros (about the same figures in US Dollars)). Now, the minimum allowed wages for a portuguese worker is about 350 Euros (I don't recall the estimated average wages, but it shoud be near 1000-1500 Euros (optimistic ;). I remember Bill Gates comming to Portugal some 3-4 years ago, and it was said that the value of our Brute Internal Product (sorry for the translation) was less than uncle Gates' personal earnings on that year!!!

    And yes, unfortunatelly, with this directive, lawyers will have the last word (if not the only one). By the way, I read somewhere that one thing is SUN's Developpers Department, a completelly different one is SUN's Patent Department...

     

    Well, lxthusdan, maybe you can clarify me on this one: WTH has "socialist propaganda" to do with all this? In case you didn't notice, the *official* pusher of the directive is a UK's Labour Party representative (a socialist 'alias'). And please remember, the EU is not the USA. E.g. there are not 2 but 7 political groups + 1 group of non-affilliated MEPs (8 in total) currently in the Europen Parlament (though you usually place them somewhere in a left-right line). And, in Portugal, 'Republic' and 'Democracy' mean basically the same - in latin and greek, respectivelly, 'Public Reason' and 'Public Will'. And so on, etc, und so weiter...

    As for what it was 'meant' and what it 'turned out' to be... well, you can learn with your mistakes...

    And if what you said apllies "to copyright and intelectual property as well", we already have that - and also a thing called Munich Convention that forbids patents on "computer implemented inventions".

     

    JaseP, as you said, only a something *as big as* a treatise could give a thorough explanation. I respect your education, but remember what I said to lxthusdan, and also that the US law derives from the Common Law style. Inside the EU we have the Roman style, the Germanic and the Common Law as well. The EU state-members are not the United States (of America) - try and compare histories. Then do the same but using history books from another EU country... Laws, politics, economics, culture, etc are all linked in formal and informal ways - in the present and over time.

     

    roland (again ;), point 2 is a good point. You're trying to explain the process of inovation as it most often occurs in the software industry - "sequecial and complementary", meaning, one innnovation requires a prior one (or ones) (e.g. Amazon One Click requires Internet, and lots more, I can imagine ;). It also often complements the prior innnovation, making this one more valuable.

     

    lxthusdan: Again "socialist ideology"!? There are many ways of thinking and acting, you know... There are more colors than just two. Actually, Karl Marx wasn't the only socialist (or the first AFAIR). And in sociology, you'd be teached there is the "scientific socialism" and the "utopic socialism". And guess what, Marx gets in the first group...

     

    Gowator It would be sweet if the European initiative would really be intending to "draw a line between what is patentable and what isn't". But you can't really put it like that. Tying to keep it simple: the European Comission (who actually writes the laws), procedure is pushing the directive - they are not elected but nominated. But it won't become effective unless the Europen Parliament approves it - the MEPs are directly elected byt the people. The European Union Council (representatives of the nationally elected government) also have a saying on the (non) approval of laws. Then there are several consultive organs (less political) - at least three of them are against the directive. So, who really wants what?... And, *get this*, the European Patent Office[b/] has been ilegally granting patents for over 20 years. And why? Because the Munich Convention (among others) already states what can and can not be patented!!! And "computer implemented inventions" can not be patented. On the other hand, the TRIPs agreement (signed later on) could actually induce the opposite. It really is one big mess!

     

    Ok, bye for now, sorry for the so long post. On doubt, smile... :)

  7. Hello everyone,

     

    I got this yesterday:

     

    FFII News -- For Immediate Release -- Please Redistribute

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              Aug 27 Demonstrations against EU Software Patent Plans

                               Brussels 2003/08/19

                              For immediate Release

     

      The Proposal for a software patent directive, which will be  

    submitted

      to the European Parliament for plenary debate and subsequent  

    decision

      on September 1st, giving rise to another wave of protests. Various

      groups in Belgium and elsewhere are mobilising for a rally in  

    Brussels

      on August 27th and are calling on web administrators to temporarily

      block their web sites.

     

    Details

     

      The Proposal for a software patent directive, which will be  

    submitted

      to the European Parliament for plenary debate and subsequent  

    decision

      on September 1st, giving rise to another wave of protests. The

      Eurolinux Alliance is calling for participation in a rally in  

    Brussels

      on August 27th, comprising a street performance at 12.00 on  

    Luxemburg

      Square and conference at 14.00 in the European Parliament, and for

      accompanying online demonstrations.

     

      "The directive proposal as prepared by Arlene McCarthy MEP would

      impose US-style unlimited patentability of algorithms and business

      methods such as Amazon One Click Shopping" says Benjamin Henrion,  

    who

      is heading a local organisational team with the backing of a  

    coalition

      of organisations representing 2000 software companies and 160,000

      individuals, mostly software professionals.

     

      In an appeal, the organisers call on European citizens to stand up  

    for

      the public interest to defend freedom of creation against logic

      patents, to defend copyright-based software property against

      patent-based software piracy, to defend software innovation against

      patent inflation, to defend software users against reduced choices  

    and

      monopoly pricing.

     

      They call on the European Patent Office: Stop littering Europe's

      information highway! and on the European Parliament: Punish the

      polluters, don't legalise the pollution!

     

      The program in Brussels is approximately as follows, more details  

    will

      be supplied soon:

     

      12.00-14.00 | Place du Luxembourg | Performance, balloons, patent  

    chain,

                                          speeches, ...

      14.00-16.00 | EuroParl[13][1]     | Conference

     

      "In May a [14]two-day software patent conference in and near the

      European Parliament attracted 200 participants. Leaders of the

      scientific commuities and software business world condemned the

      directive proposal in every respect. Yet in June the EP Legal  

    Affairs

      Commission endorsed this proposal with further amendments that make  

    it

      even worse", explains Henrion. "More and more people are now seeing

      this very clearly. We expect even more participatants this time."

     

      Yet the vast majority of our supporters will certainly not be on

      Luxemburg Square on August 27th. "Those who can not come to Brussels

      should demonstrate online, using their web servers or other internet

      services", says Hartmut Pilch, president of FFII. "We have

      [15]proposed a series of ways in which this can be done. There is

      certainly a way for everyone. Better make access to your webpage a  

    bit

      more difficult now for one or two days than lose your freedom of

      publication for the next ten years. Note that if the McCarthy report

      is approved without drastic amendments, programmers and Internet

      Service Providers will be regularly sued for patent infringement, if

      they publish programs on the Internet. If the Parliament votes for  

    the

      McCarthy proposal now, there will be no more chances for democratic

      control later."

     

    Annotated Links

     

      -> [16]AEL Big Demo 27 aug Wiki

             Hints on how to participate in the demo, needed equipment on

             site, who provides what, etc

     

      -> [17]FFII BXL 2003/08 Wiki

             Holger's editable auxiliary pages for the 2003/08/27 demo and

             related events. Includes hints on hotel/hostel rooms,  

    t-shirts,

             banners etc

     

      -> [18]2003/08 Letter to Software Creators and Users

             The European Parliament will, in its plenary session on

             September 1st, decide on a directive proposal which ensures

             that algorithms and business methods like Amazon One Click

             Shopping become patentable inventions in Europe. This  

    proposal

             has the backing of about half of the parliament. Please help  

    us

             make sure that it will be rejected. Here are some things to  

    do.

     

      -> [19]2003/08/25-9 BXL: Software Patent Directive Amendments

             Members of the European Parliament are coming back to work on

             monday August 25th. It is the last week before the vote on  

    the

             Software Patent Directive Proposal. We are organising a

             conference and street rally wednesday the 27th. Some of our

             friends will moreover be staying in the parliament for  

    several

             days. Time to work decide on submission of amendments to the

             software patent directive proposal is running out. FFII has

             proposed one set of amendments that stick as closely as

             possible to the original proposal while debugging and  

    somewhat

             simplifying it. An alternative small set of amendments would

             "cut the crap" and rewrite the directive from scratch. We

             present and explain the possible approaches.

     

      -> [20]Online Demonstration Against Software Patents

             We can show our concern by physical presence as well as by  

    more

             or less gently blocking access to webpages in a concerted

             manner at certain times.

     

      -> [21]European Parliament Rejects Attempt to Rush Vote on Software

             Patent Directive

             The European Parliament has postponed the vote on the  

    software

             patent directive back to the original date of 1st of  

    September,

             thereby rejecting initially successful efforts of its

             rapporteur Arlene McCarthy (UK Labour MEP of Manchester) and

             her supporters to rush to vote on June 30th, a mere twelve  

    days

             after publication of the highly controversial report and ten

             days after the unexpected change of schedule.

     

      -> [22]JURI votes for Fake Limits on Patentability

             The European Parliament's Committee for Legal Affairs and the

             Internal Market (JURI) voted on tuesday morning about a list  

    of

             proposed amendments to the planned software patent directive.

             It was the third and last in a series of committee votes,  

    whose

             results will be presented to the plenary in early september.

             The other two commissions (CULT, ITRE) had opted to more or

             less clearly exclude software patents. The JURI rapporteur

             Arlene McCarthy MEP (UK socialist) also claimed to be aiming

             for a "restrictive harmonisation of the status quo" and

             "exclusion of software as such, algorithms and business  

    methods

             from patentability". Yet McCarthy presented a voting list to

             fellow MEPs which, upon closer look, turns ideas like "Amazon

             One-Click Shopping" into patentable inventions. McCarthy and

             her followers rejected all amendment proposals that try to

             define central terms such as "technical" or "invention",  

    while

             supporting some proposals which reinforce the patentability  

    of

             software, e.g. by making publication of software a direct

             patent infringment, by stating that "computer-implemented

             inventions by their very nature belong to a field of

             technology", or by inserting new economic rationales

             ("self-evident" need for Europeans to rely on "patent

             protection" in view of "the present trend for traditional

             manufacturing industry to shift their operations to low-cost

             economies outside the European Union") into the recitals.  

    Most

             of McCarthy's proposals found a conservative-socialist 2/3

             majority (20 of 30 MEPs), whereas most of the proposals from

             the other committees (CULT = Culture, ITRE = Industry) were

             rejected. Study reports commissioned by the Parliament and

             other EU institutions were disregarded or misquoted, as some  

    of

             their authors point out (see below). A few socialists and

             conservatives voted together with Greens and Left in favor of

             real limits on patentability (such as the CULT opinion, based

             on traditional definitions, that "data processing is not a

             field of technology" and that technical invention is about  

    "use

             of controllable forces of nature"), but they were overruled  

    by

             the two largest blocks. Most MEPs simply followed the voting

             lists of their "patent experts", such as Arlene McCarthy (UK)

             for the Socialists (PSE) and shadow rapporteur Dr. Joachim

             Wuermeling (DE) for the Conservatives (EPP). Both McCarthy  

    and

             Wuermeling have closely followed the advice of the directive

             proponents from the European Patent Office (EPO) and the

             European Commission's Industrial Property Unit (CEC-Indprop,

             represented by former UK Patent Office employee Anthony  

    Howard)

             and declined all offers of dialog with software professionals

             and academia ever since they were nominated rapporteurs in  

    May

             2002.

     

      -> [23]Why Amazon One Click Shopping is Patentable under the  

    Proposed

             EU Directive

             According to the European Commission (CEC)'s Directive  

    Proposal

             COM(2002)92 for "Patentability of Computer-Implemented

             Inventions" and the revised version approved by the European

             Parliament's Committee for Legal Affairs and the Internal

             Market (JURI), algorithms and business methods such as Amazon

             One Click Shopping are without doubt patentable subject  

    matter.

             This is because

     

            1. Any "computer-implemented" innovation is in principle

               considered to be a patentable "invention".

            2. The additional requirement of "technical contribution in  

    the

               inventive step" does not mean what most people think it

               means.

            3. The directive proposal explicitly aims to codify the  

    practise

               of the European Patent Office (EPO). The EPO has already

               granted thousands of patents on algorithms and business

               methods similar to Amazon One Click Shopping.

            4. CEC and JURI have built in further loopholes so that, even  

    if

               some provisions are amended by the European Parliament,

               unlimited patentability remains assured.

     

      -> [24]FFII: Software Patents in Europe

             For the last few years the European Patent Office (EPO) has,

             contrary to the letter and spirit of the existing law,  

    granted

             more than 30000 patents on computer-implemented rules of

             organisation and calculation (programs for computers). Now

             Europe's patent movement is pressing to consolidate this

             practise by writing a new law. Europe's programmers and

             citizens are facing considerable risks. Here you find the  

    basic

             documentation, starting from a short overview and the latest

             news.

     

    Contact

     

      mail:

             media at ffii org

     

      phone:

             Hartmut Pilch +49-89-18979927

     

             [25]Benjamin Henrion +32-10-454761

     

             More Contacts to be supplied upon request

     

    About the Eurolinux Alliance -- www.eurolinux.org

     

      The EuroLinux Alliance for a Free Information Infrastructure is an

      open coalition of commercial companies and non-profit associations

      united to promote and protect a vigourous European Software Culture

      based on copyright, open standards, open competition and open source

      software such as Linux. Corporate members or sponsors of EuroLinux

      develop or sell software under free, semi-free and non-free licenses

      for operating systems such as GNU/Linux, MacOS or MS Windows.

     

    About the FFII -- www.ffii.org

     

      The Foundation for a Free Information Infrastructure (FFII) is a

      non-profit association registered in Munich, which is dedicated to  

    the

      spread of data processing literacy. FFII supports the development of

      public information goods based on copyright, free competition, open

      standards. More than 250 members, 300 companies and 15,000  

    supporters

      have entrusted the FFII to act as their voice in public policy

      questions in the area of exclusivity rights (intellectual property)  

    in

      the field of software.

     

    Permanent URL of this Press Release

     

      http://swpat.ffii.org/news/03/demo0819/index.en.html

        _________________________________________________________________

     

                                        Notes

     

      [1] Room number to be announced tomorrow. External visitors,

      including journalists, need to register in advance. Please contact

      bxl030827 at ffii org for this purpose.

     

    References

     

     14. http://swpat.ffii.org/events/2003/europarl...5/index.en.html

     15. http://swpat.ffii.org/group/demo/index.en.html

     16. http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/BigDemo27aug

     17. http://offen.ffii.org/bxl/

     18. http://swpat.ffii.org/letters/parl038/index.en.html

     19. http://swpat.ffii.org/events/2003/europarl...8/index.en.html

     20. http://swpat.ffii.org/group/demo/index.en.html

     21. http://swpat.ffii.org/news/03/plen0626/index.en.html

     22. http://swpat.ffii.org/news/03/juri0617/index.en.html

     23. http://swpat.ffii.org/papers/eubsa-swpat02...h/index.en.html

     24. http://swpat.ffii.org/index.en.html

     25. http://bh.udev.org/

     

     

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  8. What I told you before works for me as for sending e-mails to any valid e-mail adress on the internet, NOT receiving! Don't ask me why. :) . Just type:

    mail someone@some.mail.server

    And that's that. Subject, message (terminated by a line containing a single '.' (dot), and Cc will be asked to you at the prompt.

     

    Stil, you can receive e-mails form other users on your local machine. E.g.:

    [user1@localhost ]$ mail user2

    Subejct: Testing

    This is a test.

    .

    Cc:

    And user2 on the same machine user1 sent the e-mail from will get that e-mail.

     

    Sorry, that's all I can tell you...

  9. Hi,

     

    In rxvt, I can't get to input locale characters, such as é or ã and others. It does displays them, e.g., when a filename has them. But inputing them doesn't work.

    I don't know if other non-US keyboards have additional keys, but here, you just press 'followed by e to get the é.

    Option "-grk iso" might do the trick, but rxvt doesn't recognize that (not even the -grk which is documented in the man page).

    Any ideas?

  10. H+BEDV AntiVirus ( http://www.hbedv.com ) is a virus scanner, available for Linux free of charge, no trial version... You just have to register with them (for free...) to get a license key by e-mail, renewable after a one year period (again, for free). Works fine, even detected the BugBear virus in my Windows partition (my girlfriend needs it for work purposes...), which AVG (another free virus scanner, but for Windows) didn't... :)

     

    Virus definitions are updated almost everyday, and it's as easy to do as typing "antivirus --update" as root (unless you change some permissions) to do an internet update. You can also type "antivirus --update --check" as a normal user just to check for updates.

    The program itself can be updated by the same means - and will, if available! In this case, you can configure AntiVir to test the update with GnuPG... :wink:

     

    AvGuard works in the background to check open/closed/executed files (behaviour configurable). It comes packed with AntiVir... 8)

     

    AvUpdater automatically checks for and installs updates.

     

    This next one I haven't tried: H+BEDV (again) AvMailgate. For e-mail server/client scanning. It's available for severall different protocols.

     

    PS: This software is free for Personal use only (after you get your personal key). A Commercial version is available as well.

  11. Hi everyone,

     

    I installed OpenBox window manager from source and it works fine.

     

    But I'd like to have the system menu in it. And also to have it automatically updated whenever a new Mandrake package kicks a new item in the Mandrake's system menu.

     

    I guess it could work if I could get menudrake to see the *non Mandrake released* window manager as just another one (as it does for KDE or GNOME or even BlackBox).

     

    Any suggestions?

  12. Hi

     

    In the /etc/postfix/main.cf file, you'll find two variables: "myhostname" and "mydomain'. I believe the last is actually more important than the first, as I just realised I got "myhostanme" instead of "myhostname"!...

    Anyway, I'm far from being an expert but I realised that, to have a fully qualified hostname, you should give values to both those variables (and it can be most anything - I got it working with stuff like "jeanackle.casa").

     

    Using the las hostname you specified, it would be:

    myhostname = jughead.omneb.us.com

    and

    mydomain = omneb.us.com

     

    Try that :wink:

  13. Hi James,

     

    I use an antivirus with Linux for 2 reasons:

    1- I could accidentally forward an e-mail with virus to someon else using windoze...

    2- There are Linux virus... Did you ever ear of the Slapper virus for instance... Incidentally, a few months ago I bought a magazine called 'h4ck3r' which taught to make a linux virus... :shock:

     

    About my kernel, everything looks fine with 2.4.21-0.18mdk, even though hte compiled kernel was pre-compiled by mandrake and not myself. It's just that some 'security updates' sound like chinese to me (note: I don't understand chinese...) :)

     

    Still, thanks for yor reply...

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