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Chris, you've also summed up my feelings. I started June 1, 2003 with Mandrake 9.1, then switched over to redhat 9.0 August 3, 2003. From what i've seen posted it seems that if you "upgrade" your system becomes fubar. I too want to break away from Microsoft (New op coming soon get your $ ready) but I am no way comfortable enough with Linux to do that. I use both XP and 98se at work, but have stopped using ms office in favor of openoffice and I use Mozilla and opera as my main browsers. just to be more familar with some of my Linux apps.

But the dependecy hell problem drives everyone nuts, I know steps are being taken to correct this, but for anyone new to linux it kills the interest real fast. Especially if they don't find a good forum like this one to ask questions on.

I found this :arrow: :article:http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973...,1236319,00.asp

I can agree with some of this. As a newbie I'd like to see Any distro (preferably mandrake or redhat) ship us all a finished version, with minimal bugs (no ones pefect so why should we expect perfection?). Redhat is now usuing apt-get, and mandrakes gurpmi (?) are steps in the right direction, but I think it could be better. I just want more of the bugs worked out before I put the next release on my box. :lol: I know me though and Ill get it asap after release no matter :?

Wow what a jerk. Maybe he should be the company spokesman

:!: :!: :? Instead of looking for his crystral ball, he should have his head pulled out of his...(you know what I mean). I tell you, he makes me want to run to best buy and wait for the next release of RedHat. And I bet he thought he was being clever. Anyway I know I'll end up downloading RH10 when it's release and MDK9.2 also, but since I'm still learning, I'm in no big hurry.

Has anyone tried Lunar Linux?? I came acrossed it but as a newbie ran far from it :roll: It didn't seem to use rpms or apt-get and I wasnt even clear on what came with the distro. Anyways is it a another choice for newbies to learn on or one we should stay away from??

Yes my bad Is usb support in linux getting better? I only have a game pas that usb and dont' use it much anymore. Other than that its either serial or ps/2.

I think you can get a gender changer to make it serial, but not sure how well it works.

I use a US robotics external fax/modem with no problems. Just use the internet connection wizard, go through those steps and your on. As long as you IP is linux friendly that is. Then use KPPP as your dialer (Its in the ineternet menu). I have to say I was very happy at how easy it is to connetc to the web in both Mandrake 9.1 and Redhat 9.0.

Ok Im in. Now I know more than I did yesterday at least, but it still isn't much :lol: . Anyways I now have a quick launch icon for mplayer. Thanks.

I looked at my /etc/apt/sources folder and it was empty. Can I specify in synaptic to always download the src.rpm?? Or does it matter. I'm still not clear on src. files. Do I want them in the event of a system upgrade? ie- redhat9.xx or 10 or 11 or whatever??

And the reason Im now using Redhat is: It looks better to me, their version of supermount works, and it gets me more linux experience. I want to eventually try Debian, Lunar, maybe Gentoo, and then decide which suits me the best. I had good luck using Mandrake( 2-3months) I've only been using redhat a couple of weeks (work has limited my actual time) so in a few months I'll try another distro, but I have a feeling That for me its between Redhat and Mandrake, simply because of my family- The other distros seem too difficult for those with little computer knowledge. Not That I have much :lol:

Not sure. i'll look at that also, Im at work and its on my home pc. ( I just surf here alot :lol

also thanks I've seen -Uvh before but didn't know what is was

Thanks for the tips. As a newbie Im getting better at usuing Linux, but sometmes seem to revert in a MS mode of: DUHHH! anyways thanks

At the momment Im running redhat 9, I say at the momment because I'm considering going back to Mandrake, or getting another hard drive and triple(?) booting. anyways, I used apt-get to install mplayer, if I use the run command gmplayer, it runs no problem. But it doesn't show up in my multimedia menu. I want to add mplayer to either my desktop or taskbar, but I'm not sure how. If it was in the multimedia menu it would be so easy, but since its not, where do i find it? I know its probally so simple, but can't figure it out.

Also how do you uninstall programs in linux? I'm going to install wine, but when a new one comes out Ill want to update, so how is that done?

Is there a simple way to get my mouse wheel to work in redhat 9? Its a logitech mouseman, and it drives me nuts no being able to scroll up and down a page. I would think that by now this feature would be automatically set at install, after all it sees I have a "third" button (which shows as a wheel, but NOOOOOOOOO!! lol

I pretty much agree with chris. I like linux, but sometimes the tweaking / configuring gets old. Not that I havent had my problems with M$. Now I have no plans to abandon Linux or give up M$. When and if I feel linux has matured enough for my daughter to easily run it, then maybe I switch to a single boot. I would miss some games, but if enough of us don't by M4 compatible games and contact those publishers about a linux port, that problem would go away. Yeah I know I could use wine or winex, or just stay with M$. What would you choose if you couldn't read yet, yeah that's why my daughter likes M$ it uses the KISS method. Do I want to loose the configuration features in linux? No, i just want the items I install to work without dependency hell. (Redhat, Debian and Mandrake are doing better but what about third party apps?)

Thanks for all your help. After doing more research and downloading the first two iso (so Im covered right lol) I have decided to.................. install redhat 9 over my mandrake 9.1. I don't think Im ready for a deian system just yet. I mean Im having trouble figuring out redhat from mandrake. I have the internet up and running, nvidia gforce drivers running smoothly, but still trying to find things on this system, like control panel (which I loved in Mandrake).

I will someday load debian however, I'll just do it on a samll harddive, not one Im sharing with my wife and daughter.

See I keep hearing about this WOODY debian but cant find it. Not on their website or at www.linuxiso.org . Is this just the 3.0 release name, ie- mdk9.1 bamboo or rh9.0 shrike? Thanks for the tips however, this helps alot.

Ok Im a mdk9.1 user considering trying Debian. My question is which and how many iso disks do i need? In their installation guide they show different Flavors of install, do I need to get all of the Flavors or can I get by with Vanilla and compact?

Ive only used knoppix a a live cd on my friends pcs to show them Linux. I like Mandrake but to improve my linux skills I was just thinking of trying another distro.

Ok, Im still very new with Mandrake (since June) but I was thinking of trying out either debian or Knoppix. I have Knoppix live cd and Have used it just to show friends what linux really looks like, but haven't installed anything, since it runs on the cd. Which distro is easier?? Ill probally keep mandrake also but just want a feel of whats out there.

Im with you. I don't exactly like getting off head shots with my 7yr old asking " what happened to him daddy?" It seems that the first person shooter game will dominate Linux as it has Windows gaming. I have found a driving/race simulation game from dolson's site (http://pgshopping.com/mdkxp/?c=games/freegames ) its called racer. Now this gam is a .05 release so take it for that, it lokks good and will get better I'm sure. I was gonna put the direct link but it seemed down, so youll get this list of free games.

Anyways I'm planning to pick up some version of sim city for linux and/or railroad tycoon 2 sometime soon. At least I will be able play these in front of my kid!! Hopefully as time goes by and as a community go out and BUY a Linux version of our favorite game when available, more and more companys will bring out games for us. If we don't by games for linux...well go look at the karge selection of Mac games :P :!: oh thats right. If we're veiwed just as leeches by game developers, then we will have to depend on the hacker community to port games for us, then come the virus scares we all enjoy in windows.

Just a question, does Sim city 4 include a linux installer (a la ut2k3)? I was just wondering since there is a linux version of sim city 3000 unlimited.

Newbie qustion here, What Kernel ships with 9.1? I haven't done any updates (Dial up connection). I think Im safe as everything seems to say you need to downgrade. Hopefully someone will post how you downgrade your kernel (like upgreading looks easy :P :!: :!: )

Thanks guys. I "saved as" the ut2k3 demo, burned it to disc, and Mandrake actually installed it and it runs smooth!! So that's a easy trick, especially for those of us who are unlucky and have dial up access, but have friends (or work) with high speed internet and a burner!!!

Thaks for the tips, Yes Im using IE6 and I Have been trying to get the installers for the games I mentioned above(i don't know if any linux cds are available for those, but was thinking about buting ut2k3 which has a ut installer on disc three). I just saved the quake2.run file from Dolsons site ( http://pgshopping.com/mdkxp/?c=games ). Your tip seemed to work, Ill try to get the others, burn a disc and let you know tomorrow if this works!!

Ok, here's my problem:slow dial-up Mandrake9.1/winXP dual boot at home, but at work I have high speed, but only WinXP. I've tried to download various L:inux items. Some do ok, but most load a page of text. Is there a way to save these items, are the valid or just the junk they look like? I know that everyone will be saying, get Highspeed at home, but I live in the country and it isn't available. My main reason for this is to get game demos and or full installers for my old games that don't have linux installers included (Q2, Q3, return to castle wolfenstein, etc).

Thanks in advance

I'm just wondering if anyone has tired to get any of the ea sports madden series to run on linux? The main game I play in Window is Madden 2k3, if it's possible to run it in linux I see no need to keep my windows partition. This said However I haven't seen anybody saying one way or the other if it works. I'm guessing you have to use wine, but would win4lin work or is winex better? I downloaded wine but haven't had a chance to install (Im still trying to figure out why ut won't run, but thats a different post). Also I downloaded ogle, I had already installed libdidcvss and libdread (or close to that), I installed ogle, and a gui for it, but it's nowhere to be found. If I tried to reinstall I'm told it's already there.

Ok guys, I still need help.Over the weekend, I was able to find a new ut-install-436.run file and I was successful in disabling supermount. Once agian the install seemed smooth but in the end I received the same error. (should I uninstall, and how do you uninstall?) I did some digging around and decided to load all of my libsdl drivers since they mentioned open-gl support. Once agian Im using mandrake 9.1, I have a 1.53gig athalon, 256megs of ram, Nvidia 64meg gforce(Lastest Linux drivers installed and functioning). All I originally set out to do is show a friend that Linux could run ut just as well as Windows, but maybe not 9.1??

Is there something I maybe missing here? a driver, a file, a setting??? I'm a newbie with linux and so far its been a good experience, except for this. I thought about buying ut2k3 but now I wonder if it will run. thanks for the previous help any any other you can give me.