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Libranet would be okay if it didn't suck. I mean, the tools and the menus. I didn't try it with Gnome though, so maybe it isn't that bad. The installer is nice, makes it easy to get up and running, but when I tried a dist-upgrade, it didn't work at all. But this was a long time ago, before I knew much about Debian, so it probably works properly if you know what you're doing. But I didn't like the config tools.

SuSE is okay I guess, but I don't like their config tools either, but not because they suck... They are proprietary, so they don't benefit anyone but SuSE users, which sucks IMHO, but they can do whatever they want. I won't touch it though. My including SuSE in that list was sorta a joke, because SuSE is a lot better than the other distros mentioned. ;) And Libranet wasn't in the list.

I would also like the icon zooming feature to work.

Hahaha. :)

Okay, well, what we're talking about are two different things then.

What I want is for the icon-zooming feature to actually WORK. You're telling me how to disable it.

IIRC, it only works with the default icons (size, set, etc) and if you modify it, it won't work. Same with the animations.

Or you could just export the path that you want to use instead of /tmp like this:

export TMPDIR=/path/to/lots/of/space/

And then run the installer.

The thing is, they shouldn't have a feature if you can only use it at a certain size... I mean, I use 48x48 icons all the time, so no matter what, if I used KDE, that feature is toast. They shouldn't allow you to check it if you're not using 32x32 icons.

If Mandrake had been this tough, I'd still be using windows only.

Yeah, that's exactly the thing that people don't realize... I don't recommend people to start using Linux and then toss them a Gentoo CD, or a Debian CD, or a Slackware CD. I tell them their best bet is Mandrake. That's where I started, and that's where many people started. The problem is that too many people forget their roots... I try not to. I've said it many times, and here I will repeat it again: if it weren't for Mandrake, I would never have known enough about Linux to get Debian installed and functional. Mandrake lets you learn - at your own pace - if you want to learn. That's what makes it so great, especially for beginners and people who just want to install their OS and use it. Debian is for people who want the benefits it offers at the expense of a lot more work and nothing there to guide you. That's why I can't stand the people who put down Mandrake, especially Debian users... Some of them claim that Mandrake is "not a version of Linux, but a version of Windows." These people are stupid and inconsiderate of others. What OS or distro you use doesn't determine who you are, who your friends are, or anything of any great importance... That said, don't use SuSE, Lindows, Xandros, or Lycoris. ;)

So it's faster to just create umpteen different files, save them all individually, then load a separate program to assemble them all into one file, and then to load that one file back into the original program that you were using?

Honestly, layers aren't that hard to learn... just click New Layer for each image you want in the animation, then just click on the eyeballs until the layers are all not visible. then just click one eye at a time to see one layer. I guess that is complicated. Nevermind. ;)

And how much free space do you have? I would assume that it uses your /tmp partition, so you would likely need a bunch of free space on there.

If you want you could boot Knoppix and do it too...

If Knoppix has an SSH server on it, you could contact me on a messaging program, and let me SSH in and see if I can fix it from here...

I thought you said that X was working? You didn't ask for printer help yet, so I didn't give you any help.

You have to use the tab autocompletion to get proper grub commands going... If you told me how your partition layout is, I could probably tell you exactly what to type in.

Also, Debian does add grub entries automatically if you ran update-grub...

Until then, boot from a CD, such as the Mandrake CD, the Debian CD, or the Gentoo CD, and then get to a root console. Normally you can do this using CTRL+ALT+F# where # is any number between 1 and 12, until you find one. You may have to partially boot the installer or use the rescue command. Once you are there... Mount the Debian partition. Edit the menu.lst file, OR, chroot to your Debian partition, and run update-grub. Check your menu.lst file before you reboot, to ensure that it has stuff in it. You may need to add devfs=nomount to your kernel line.

From my Debian notes archive (stuff I wrote during my first time setting up Debian):

installing Grub on Debian:

 

su

apt-get install grub

grub-install /dev/hda

update-grub

nano /boot/grub/menu.lst

(add in boot stuff)

#update-grub

Type in something like this:

kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.0-test1 root=/dev/hda1 ro devfs=nomount hdd=ide-scsi

Use tab to autocomplete things in it... (this is assuming you have hda1 as / and no separate /boot, and you'll have to modify the kernel version and that...)

You should have made a Grub config file before you rebooted. D'oh!

All you need to do is make each image on a new layer.

By the way, I'm not used to all the formats used by graphic printers, but I was looking around PDFs and I know they used it. I don't know why Mdk does not install a direct PDF printer, but you can always use a Postscript printer (print to file) and then use the ps2pdf utility.

You can print direct to PDF using OpenOffice.org (newer versions anyhow) or using the spadmin tool to configure a PDF print driver, and IIRC, KDE allows you to add a PDF printer in it's printer config.

I have a legal copy of Adobe Acrobat, and that's what Windows users have... You gotta pay for it. :) Well, they have OpenOffice.org too, I guess.

And once you've got Grub going (test it first), apt-get remove lilo :)

http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/

Found that in a post on Sudhian. It seems like a cool list, pretty long...

Hope someone can use it.

Honestly, it's quite different, and I didn't like it. I didn't play it for very long, and it would likely be easier/better to play with a mouse, but from what I saw, I'm not losing any sleep over it.

I just hope that the next non-Xbox project BioWare does will hit Linux. I have a feeling it won't, but I can hope...

When you say you downloaded devfsd, what do you mean by that? I hope you just apt-get install devfsd and didn't get source code and stuff...

I think I'm gonna try getting devfs going on my system too, just to see if I can do it.

Oh, you might wanna give grub a chance sometime. :) It's great.

Cool. Good to know that lilo stuff.

Now, what if it had devfs=mount already, and that was the only entry? Could you make it boot it with devfs=nomount just be specifying it too, or will it still mount?

I'd like to know how to get devfs working on Debian with a vanilla kernel, because it's just good information to know. :)

I don't use DHCP, so that'd be why I don't have it, heh.

I tried the StarWars game on Xbox, and it's nothing to get upset over, tha's for sure.

No offence to BioWare.

It worked yesterday, but not today, heh.

Sounds like you're not using DevFS to me... I don't use DevFS myself, since the other Debian (and Slackware) users told me not to, and because my kernels don't boot if I enable it as a boot option.

If you want to try it, go ahead and make a lilo entry that has devfs=mount as an option in it...

I don't like lilo... So I'm not sure what would happen if a kernel fails to boot. Grub, on the other hand, allows you to make temporary changes before boot time, to your configuration, so it can save your ass in times of trouble. Lilo has to do it too, but I couldn't tell you how.

Great!  :lol:  

nvidia is IN, and X came up OK!!!

Yay! That wasn't so bad! ;)

You guys are terrific. Not to be a smarta**, but at this point I need to ask, what is the attraction to Debian? Other than the ability to upgrade your entire system with apt.

Many things. Firstly, Debian is all about freedom. All the main software is free. And I mean really free. Debian is the same on every system (bvc: sshhhh :P)... It's supported on many architectures, including stuff I'll never see. All the software in Debian is thoroughly tested and gets maintained very well... None of this broken packages, stuff never working, requiring old glib versions, and stuff like that. All the dependencies are PROPERLY handled. System upgrading is non-existent, if you keep current with Sid. It's small updates here and there, always moving forward. Bugs are fixed usually within a day or two... It's absolutely 100% non-commercial. Debian is not making money. They represent the purity of the Linux vision... It will always be free for everyone, regardless of what changes happen in the rest of the world. The Debian software library increases ALL THE TIME. If you want something, chances are great that you can just apt-get install it. You just need to know what the package name is, and that you can usually guess fairly easily, with a little help from bash tab completion. :) I love the fact that things just don't get ripped out like Mandrake did with hdparm and other stuff a while back. If it's in Debian once, it stays in it (except in some rare casese, such as Transgaming threatening them about WineX CVS builds). It's also a fairly old distro (over 10 years now) and to me, it's proven itself. Distros come and go like the wind, and who knows if <distro X> will be around for another year or two? To me, Debian has stood the test of time, and the community and organization behind it is amazing to me... I don't know... I can go on and on about it, but someone else will walk by and say "well Gentoo does this too" and "Arch can do that better" or whatever. The point is, I just like Debian, and my reasons are my own. The more I use it, the more I love it. You may hate it. Lots of people do. I hated it for a long time because I didn't know anyone who was willing to help me with my issues I was having. But once I started using it, and I think you'll find this too, you'll see the benefits of it, and you'll find the things about it that you like too.

I honestly could NOT have done any of this without you guys.

Where did you learn all this stuff?

Other Debian users, experience with Mandrake, and just educated guessing. A lot of the time I find that Debian users branch out from another single Debian user who is willing to take their time and explain everything they can - sorta like how many people start using Linux in the first place... Oh, and occasionally, very occasionally, I read things.

And now it's on to figurring out how to make my cd burner and dvd-rom work again.

Shouldn't be too hard. Check dmesg and stuff like that, see what devices are recognized, what modules are loaded, etc.

(They quit working with the kernel upgrade).

And if I can ask, how the heck does Debian handle configuring hardware (printer)?

Of course in Mandrake, we have harddrake, which makes it simple...

Well, it doesn't, really. Anything that isn't autodetected or whatever, is probably gonna have to be configured "the hard way." We'll take it a step at a time. :) Usually it's just a matter of probing the right modules.

I have searched through as best I can, the documentation for Deb, but haven't found anything yet. My printer is an HP psc2110, and all functions work fine under Mandrake, so I assume it will work here as well, am I correct?

It should. I assume it is supported with a GimpPrint driver, or with basic CUPS? I can help more with this, since I recently did this, albeit for an Epson 777 USB printer.

Again, thanks a lot, and if ya feel like tackling these questions, I appreciate it - but if not, I will certainly understand!

We will do our best to help you with everything Debian. :)

Just run this full command:

IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=1 ./NVIDIA_Installer-or-whatever.run

And it will go. You're almost there!

Don't be alarmed if you can't start X with this driver. You may need to edit your module config files. Let us know if it works without modifications or not.