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I have no idea who Jimmy Swagart is, so I didn't understand a thing, but my behaviour has everything to do with my idea of what an OSS project should be. I've tried a bit more distros and agree that Mandriva is a very fine one.

That's a great idea, Ixthusdan! Now we can just replace our posts with "moan moan moan moan" or "praise praise praise praise" or "rtfm rtfm rtfm rtfm", etc.!

You can read my reason in the "Farewell to the creator" thread I'm sure tha Fedora will work just as fine for me.

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oh, ok, config is no problem as long as it's not deliberately crippled...

so, I wouldn't be able to install VMware on Fedora? :huh: this is even more locked up than Windows then, oss my ass

As for me I don't care about the politics of OSS or not OSS at all. If I have mp3 then my OS has to play mp3, if the OS doesn't allow that, I get another OS. My system has to serve me, not the other way around, and I'm not going to re-rip my cd's to ogg just because it's a free format.

Ability to play mp3 for me is crucial, I have lots of those and converting them all to .ogg will result in the loss of quality. I now rip my cd's to ogg, but I have hundreds of cd's and ripped tapes and vinyl on mp3, but because I need only one yum command to enable it on Fedora I don't see where it's the problem.

How much of a trouble is SELinux? This particular comment at lwn.net worries me:

As I understand, then additional repos can be added (just like PLF) which hold non-gpl software (like win32 codecs, etc). Thanks for that news article.

as a side note, I really like that Fedora Core has the option to install from iso images that are one a hard drive partition (like Mandriva has too). I really prefer that because it saves cd's that I would have no use of later, and boot.iso I can burn to cd/rw; and of course such an installation is a lot faster with less hassle than from cd's.

Thank you, cybrjackle, and others, you're a lot of help! :)

Anyone can tell how much RAM Fedora Core takes up after startup? I mostly like what I read about it and KDE can be installed (I'm a KDE guy), but I don't want to put anything sluggish on my system. ----- Arch is too terminal based for my liking, atm (yea, it's the problem of my limited knowledge). If I had two boxes I'd install it on one for experimental playing, but unfortunately I have only one box and it's a production one, so I can't allow myself unplanned downtimes.

Thanks for the advice. I only want to check out without installing. And KDE/Gnome everywhere looks the same, so XFCE is no problem.

lol I found out that Arch has a live cd too, will check it out I like the sound of that philosophy!! :D

Of course! :D But not all systems require you to open them with a text editor. --- trying to download that Fedora live cd now, will see how it is. seems a bit more complex than it should be - what's with all the cd image generation, just give me a generic one! if possible I'd like to stay with a rpm based distro (don't shoot me!!)

/grins/ I never had illusions about that

Maybe their strategy involves a legal department that would make it up for marketing and community relations.

trying out Kanotix, quite cool, has KDE 3.5.1 and xorg 6.9, kernel 2.6.15-6 seems that the installation to hd app is quite easy too (almost too easy), recognized my digicam with no problems, all hardware detected correctly

I'm sorry if this has been mentioned here before, but is there a good Fedora Core based live cd so that I can check out the general Fedora feel? p.s. Now burning latest Kanotix live cd

That would be wonderful, cybrjackle! I have ATI Radeon 9000 Pro and I haven't tried it on xorg 7.0 at all, but that review mentioned that the author had to hack his way though xorg.conf Actually I can hack my way through xorg.conf quite well (as most ATI card users can :D ), but, as I said, I don't have the time to play with that now (deadlines!!).

You just weren't satanic enough, Ian :D

I agree with you, neddie, it's a very logical statement that you do, but my choice to ditch Mandriva is a political one (just as the choice to kick Gael out of Mandriva was), I don't want to support such people as Mandriva seems to turn into, and by kicking Gael they have kicked me too. It's idealistic and a bit stupid, I agree, but an OS is something more than just a tool for me, it's the community and principles that stand behind it that matter to me too. I don't plan to leave this board and, what little help I can give, I will, because this is an awesome community in this particular board, but I don't want anything to do with Mandriva anymore. I think that some others feel simmilar too.

right.... I actually have 9 partitions I'd like to keep intact, I don't feel powerful enough for the satanic debian install it's been compared with Dante's 9th circle of hell

Thanks for the info. And how about xorg? I'd really like to have X with my ati. :) p.s. It was not bought with Linux in mind, and I don't have the money to buy nvidia