solarian

Hi and welcome to mandrivausers.org, Halone! :)

Not that I can add anything to what jboy said, but just so you know Mandriva carried me through to almost all uni years and I graduated this month. I did all the assignments, etc. with it with no problems at all, so Linux is quite good for students. :) (ok, except multimedia students).

Let us know if what jboy said works for you.

I'm using KDE 3.5.3 on my Fedora box, no problems at all,

and if you do a proper upgrade, you should have no problems too.

Alas I don't know what quality the unofficial Mandriva's KDE rpm's are, i.e., those made by MDE (Thac). In the past there have been issues with those.

So you can well try, but if something goes wrong, be ready to install the old KDE back.

And I'm 31, going on 32, and I'm starting to feel old.

Don't worry about it, the atoms that make up you are more than 4.6 billion years old, and the energy that makes them up, for all we know in physics, is eternal.

Mandriva marketing team, Ulteo, Ubuntu, Mandriva linux, dishonesty, truth, assumptions and lies.

The marketing department of Mandriva is a mythical creature, that all know to name (and ridicule), but nobody has actually seen it. :P :D

Ugly and complicated. Not a clean base at all.

Yes, I realise that, and I'm curious why is it Ubuntu and not Debian.

As far as I am concerned 'Ulteo' is vapourware at the moment. If it is any good we shall se when it is released (at least beta).

I was only referring to the delay of the iso images, solarian. :)

sorry, misunderstood, arctic :)

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edit: I too don't like Mandriva as a company, that's why I switched. The reasons were purely ethical and political, not technological, because I still like Mandriva as a distribution.

And they've showed unethical or untruthful behaviour for more than one time. And I use Linux not only because it is free, but also for the community spirit.

For me kicking Gael out was the last straw on the frustration that had been building for quite some time.

There is no delay, if you install cooker on the day of the release and after installing switch the repos to stable.

I don't understand you, fans of either camp. :P

I use whatever app is the best for the job, whether it is QT or GTK - couldn't care less.

Then use SMART. It's almost like Synaptic and I think Mandriva devs were going to switch to it, but I'm not sure that's the plan anymore, or even if it was serious in the first place.

p.s. I still prefer urpmi and yum instead of Synaptic and Smart.

I'm using Audacious 1.0.0 now and it feels and is kinda sluggish.

For instance, when I add songs, it takes some time before they are added and id tag read.

It's also sluggish when I try to drag it over screen (no 3d drivers installed),

the same problems are not with XMMS.

Can't use XMMS now, because it's gone all crashy on me...

Anyone has the same problems with Audacious?

thanks

I really like Mandriva's partition manager. :)

thanks for the info

I mentioned Audacious just because it's similar to Winamp, but I think it's kinda slow (too slow),

but I'm now using it, because xmms has gone all crashy on me.

Well, Mandriva can't even be the latest/greatest with their yearly releases, but I agree that it feels dated and hasn't changed much since 10.1 or even 10.0.

But I chose Mandriva in this debate because I'm a KDE person, Kubuntu sucks and last time I tried it, it was buggy and even when replacing sudo with root, had many errors related to it.

Ubuntu made an unprofessional and unthought of impression. Good if you want to leave it at the defaults, but a bitch if you want to change something.

Anyways I'm now quite happy with Fedora Core.

I second ilia_kr,

if all that you need is just to move files around and execute them as root, launch nautilus from the terminal as root, you don't need a seperate X session devoted to that.

I tend to use the tar.gz package from Mozilla site, so there is no problem at using 1.5.0.4 on Mandriva if you wish so.

What is VQF?

p.s. Audacious is not a bad Winamp clone too

i like Mandriva better, but use neither.

Every time yum syncs itself with all the repos and checks if there are new software versions (not only for the 'updates' repo). urpmi doesn't do that, it needs to be updated seperately.

And I agree about the MCC problem and I did post about it, my wish would be a MCC like application which keeps up to date and doesn't screw up config files. So what, I'm an idealist. :P

After ditching Mandriva because they kicked Gael out (after consulting with many of the members here) I ended up with Fedora Core 5, it was then just released and is the first Fedora (or Red Hat) I've ever used.

Now it's been quite a few months since I've been using FC5 and I feel that it needs some first time user review.

Before Fedora I used Mandriva (Mandrake 9.1 was my first distro, but I switched at 10.0 CE), I had also used Ubuntu and Kanotix for a short while, and of course trying out other distros. So, I know my way around Linux, but am no expert.

I had read much boasting about Fedora's new Anaconda installer and it turned out to be quite nice, although I'd prefer more flexibility in choosing what to install. Because of that I ended up installing more than I needed. Also it has some weird dependencies, but that's the problem with Mandriva rpm's too.

As I undestand Fedora is Gnome centric, but I didn't have any problems setting up KDE and through using standart update I now have the latest KDE installed. That's quite refreshing after all the hassle with Mandriva and installing Thac's frequently quite buggy rpms.

About installing software: yum takes longer to install something than urpmi (and there is a valid reason for that) and the standart GUI package manager Pirut is very limited. I generally use konsole and yum command, but sometimes, especially when searching software, I use the gui program YUMEX (Yum Extender) and it is everything Pirut should be.

What I really love about Fedora is the "yum update" command, with that one line all the applications are upgraded to the latest/greatest, including, as I mentioned, newest KDE, etc. Of course with all the security and bugfixes.

What seems strange is that there have been imo too many kernel updates. 4 or 5 since the release I think

The standart menu is too confusing for my taste, I mean there is "Administration" "Settings" "System" "Utilities" and "Control center", imo they should all be below one menu "System" or two, but no more. It sometimes gets hard to remember where is what - it's not intuitive.

It lacks the beautiful MCC of Mandriva, but "System control centre" can be installed which basically is an application with links to system configuration utilities, which have to be installed seperately. Also there is no default partition manager, so I installed QTParted and it is very good, but the problem is that there is no really functional system administration tool from the start, it has to be put together from many thigs. Not really a problem, but I think Fedora should make something that looks and is similar to MCC, minus the bugginess of Mandriva GUI tools :P (they can trash config files).

All in all I very like Fedora Core, it is not a distro for a total newbie, but it is good. I know that some here have been having problems with Fedora, but I guess I just don't use the buggy places, so it's been a generally pleasant experience and what I've noticed is that with Fedora my pleas for help in this forum (the only Linux forum I use) are down to minimum. It seems that with Fedora Core I have 90% less problems than with Mandriva which seems a bit unrealistic, but that is the picture when I see my posting history.

I've never liked Amarok, it's heavy and its' music database engine is killing my large music collection (cpu wise) and it does load of stuff I don't need to.

All my music is stored in folders by style and each artist has its' own subdir, and so does album, so I just drag what I need from a Konqueror window into my XMMS playlist.

Audacious looks interesting and I'll check it out once stable is released.

My only problem with GEarth is that it crashes sometimes, but all in all I like it quite much.

p.s. I installed it with "bash filename"

losing home can be pretty annoying, but at least it's still bootable

lol, I imagined how this might sound to someone outside Linux

/solarian does a /home backup