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Nah, that didn't work either. It's like it's going into some sort of circular dependency problem. I got the rpm you suggested, but then it started with another error about libpq.so.3 which, according to rpm.pbone.net is only available for 10.X - I tried the rpm for that and gone a different error again. Great, thanks for that devries. I got the 1.4.0 beta_rc1 version with various engines from the link that you posted. It's just reading my collection now :) Yup, I'm trying to be (though in truth I'm a really impatient person ;) ). I noticed that some parts have appeared, but not the bits that I need - yet. Obviously someones been busy. The annoying bit was, that when I noticed the absence of the kdepim and kdegraphics, I thought that I'd just switch into gnome, uninstall the 3.5.2 components and then install the 3.5.1 stuff instead. It just gave me an error that said it couldn't install the 3.5.1 stuff so I just re-installed the 3.5.2 bits that were on the mirror and left it at that. It wouldn't be a problem if I could get the Opengroupware working, but as I already mentioned, thats being a pain as well! I wonder if I go to the local shop, they might sell me a large box of patience - It might work {waynesworldquote}and monkeys' might fly out of my butt!{/waynesworldquote} :D regards John

Ah, that explains it then :( It's really weird though, I'm finding all sorts of anomalies. As this is the first time I've tried to do this "in anger". Trying to get round the lack of kdepim/kontact etc and stuff like amorak. I've managed to get round the music thing, as I install JuK and worked out how to make it do random plays from my mp3 collection (well, actually FLAC collection - mp3's are crap), but I hit another dependency problem with Opengroupware (it's got a facility for connection to Palm devices i.e. my Treo 650). Something about libpq.so missing, and as I've just been "playing" I haven't sussed that one yet. So I think it's time for me to go and clean out my fish - their weekly "treat" (not). regards John p.s. Ha! maybe, if I had the faintest idea of what I was doing, these problems would be trivial. Unfortunately, I don't and they aren't either - damn!

Ha! I'd forgotten about the kde graphics - no wonder I couldn't get the wasp icons to work! Though I notice that there seems to be a missing library in kdeaddons - the libkdeaddons1-akregator-3.5.2-2.mdk2006.0.mde.i586 is the error "thrown up". Though I do suspect that it might be my own stupidity in forgetting to install something else! regards John

Ditto! Damn, no kdepim - yet! I'll have to work out how I use jpilot, as I normally use kontact/kpilot. Still, looks good and so far is working excellently. :) regards John

I'm obviously being really thick here. If I go to BBC's Radio 2 page(s) and try to use the "listen again" facility, it goes to the "player page", but I get no audio. I have realplayer installed (via my boxed set 2006 dvd) and I can hear realplayer content if it's via a downloaded file i.e. when I'm running realplayer standalone, but nothing from streaming sites. If I check the "help", theres info about help for linux/unix users, but I'm not sure what to do from there. Theres stuff about linking things in /opt/, but if I look in /opt/ theres nothing there. I've tried linking from my /home to /usr/bin/realplayer but it just tells me that /usr/bin/realplayer exists. Theres also some stuff about making sure a couple of files are present in the plugins facility, but I can't find out how or where that plugin facility/directory or whatever else it might be called is. I'm using the "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050921 Firefox/1.0.7" version of firefox from Mandriva. Can anyone point me in the right direction please ? regards John

I don't seem to have a Galaxy style available, so I changed as much of the GUI stuff as possible to the default settings. As for looking at the /var/log (presumably messages as I can't see anything else in there that might hold a clue), I'm not sure what I should be looking for. Pehaps you or someone could advise me what I'd need to check. regards John

I was looking into upgrading my kde (from 3.5.0 to 3.5.1). Which I managed to work out. I then ran the MCC software manager and checked for updates, there was lots, so I installed them (except the one for ALSA as there was a version conflict). The problem now is that it (the Software manager) doesn't want to run, whatever I select it tries to start but then gives me an "application has exited abnormally" Where would I find the logs for the MCC and/or the Software manager to see if I can work out why it's "exiting abnormally" ??? regards john

Which seems to bring me back to this other thread of mine because I didn't understand what you were refering to when you said that I can install Xorg from within Xorg. Did you mean that I should install it from the MCC/Rpmdrake + ? If so, do I then just uninstall the earlier version with Rpmdrake- and then do the ctrl+alt+backspace ? As I'm presuming that I'd have to do that, then upgrade my kde to 3.5.1 and then install the X11R6-contrib package as there appears to be different versions of the contrib package according to the version of Xorg thats installed. Am I thinking on the right lines, or am I thinking a load of s**t ? regards John

this months linux format has a letter about configuring addition mouse buttons. the reply suggested using the xev command. if I try just issuing xev it tells me "command not found", as both root and user. I've looked at /usr/bin and theres a link to X11 to /usr/X11R6/bin but again if I cd to that I'm still not getting anything. So where would I find xev so that I can run it to see if the system is seeing anything from the "thumb button" on my mouse - then at least I could continue to follow the instructions in the mag to see what I get. regards John p.s. Oh and no I'm not getting a man page for xev - I wondered if it was part of some sort of "tool kit" or similar ?

I notice that there is a newer version of xorg for me to install (6.9.0-5 something or other). so do I have to remove the older version first and then add the newer version or is there some way of doing this all at once - presumably with CLI because I suspect that if I removed the older version of Xorg first the GUI would crash before I could install the newer version?? could someone direct me (or advise me how) to any link/advice on how this would be done? Also, I spotted the link to the newer version of KDE, as provided by Thac and/or Ze (kde 3.5.1), which I'd like to use if I can. I managed to sort it to install the 3.5.0 version but for the life of me, I can't remember how I did this i.e. add the repository (something I'd normally do with easyurpmi). Maybe someone could point me towards any advice/instruction for that as well (yes I have searched but don't understand the advice/instruction that I've read). Many thanks in advance. regards John

However you manage to sort things so that you don't loose anything this time banjo, I found that it was so much less hassle in the "loosing data" department to make sure I have a seperate /home partition. That way, I can basically mess around to my hearts content with different versions of one distro or indeed different distros. I just install to the / and absolutely don't touch the /home. I make sure that theres the requisite entry for /home in the fstab and as long as I install the same packages/apps then when I log into the /home all the icons etc "just work". Of course any specific customisations like backgrounds and iconsets etc have to be re-installed, but all that nice, precious data stuff it untouched. The way I saved myself before I did the above, was to "tar" my whole /home directory and burn it to a disc. Then it can be re-installed/copied at a later time with nothing missing. It might save you the expense of additional hard drives etc. regards John

Ok ianw1974, I've commented it out as you suggested I'll take a look in the morning to see if the monitor still has the screen saver running. I did wonder if the Option "IgnoreEDID" "1" made any difference, but I didn't manage to find what that option is actually referring too from google. regards John

Hi, I normally don't have any power saving options set for my monitor. I rely on the screensaver. I've noticed that the monitor switches to standby - which isn't a facility that the monitor will do on it's own. I've got all the display/KDE settings set on "disabled". Where else do I need to look to check why this is happening ???? regards John [moved from Software by spinynorman]

1. It's downloading the headers list according to the specification that you put in i.e. the distro/mirror that you opted to use etc. Urpmi then can tell, what you've got installed, what is available for installed and any available updates for what you've got installed. It doesn't tell you of any available newer packages that might be available (in most cases), unless it has been added to the list - usually from somewhere like the PLF. One of the exceptions might be security issues or similar - like if you see an update for kernel-sources, there will also be a newer kernel version available (but that is usually in the packages for installation "RPMdrake=+). 2. Dependencies, are software items that are needed by a specific package. They are often libraries and similar. I can't say for certain, but suspect that they're not always part of the actual package so as too keep the size of the package to a minimum + some dependencies are needed by more than one package - so what would be the point of having multiple versions of the same - library for example. If you system doesn't have the dependency, then it will usually install it when you try to install the main package. 3. No. You are best placed to understand the differences between a distro and linux itself. Linux is actually only the kernel of the system. Whereas the distro is the entire suite of packages that has been put together by a distro producer (sometimes commercial like mandrake/mandriva, sometimes community based - debian, gentoo + others). The rest of the dependency stuff is as per my 2. reply. 4. If you configured your external sources as per instructions from easyurpmi then great. Don't forget, they are the versions that where available when the distro was produced. In lots of cases, there will be newer versions available (to be able to update to the very latest version you either have to wait until it's available is a newer version of the distro, or it's been repackaged into a mandrake/mandriva RPM, or you need to change to a "meta-distro". Gentoo is particularly good at doing that, debian will do the same, but you would have to specify the actual version of it that you might be running because debian are famed for taking forever to move packages between the testing/unstable/stable versions of their distro). It's fair to say, that if you've only just started with mandrake/mandriva (OK, linux in general), then for an intitial good experience of it, it is probably best/safest to only install packages obtained via your Urpmi setup (i.e. mandrakise/mandrivised rpms). If you try rpms for a different distro or even generic ones, there is a likelyhood that you will experience dependency problems that you won't see with just installing mandrake ones. Once you've got your head round things, then maybe have a go at installing something from source/tarball. It's all part of the learning curve. If you try to jump in before you're ready, you may also experience problems. Oh, and the latest version of mandriva (formerly mandrake) is 2006. If you've got a CD or DVD burner, have a play to ensure it works, then download the latest version, burn it and install it. If you do, don't forget you can check the integrity of the download with a single command. If you try the latest mandriva, it's probably better to not try the upgrade method. Most of those who know what they're doing seem to suggest a fresh install. Which can be made easier if you have a seperate /home partition. This is because you save any personal data (e-mail address books and similar) and you just install the distro into the root partition, don't touch /home and if you install the same software packages, the /home should "just work" (have a look at info about the /etc/fstab file so you know, or at least have an idea how it should look, so that when you logged into the newer version, the user login should work i.e. same username etc etc.). regards John

Thanks for that devries and AussieJohn, that seems to have done the trick. For anyone else I just went into the files that AussieJohn suggested and did the delete via System>File tools>File manager - SuperUser mode did the delete. Theres still lots of other files in those two directories, so I'm guessing that they're for the same message but in other (non-english) languages - judging from the file names. regards John

Yes, you're spot on. I managed to sort it straight away when I realised what I wasn't doing. Though I'd still prefer to use thunderbird if I could - It's a lot nicer than kmail or kontact. Thanks for the tip anyway - strange how things can be found when looked for in the right place regards John

Having just got kmail set up, because I can't work out how I get kpilot to run Thunderbird, whenever I open it (as just kmail or kontact), I keep getting this damn annoying "welcome to mandriva linux" mail i.e. I open it, delete it etc, but when I start either kmail or kontact the bugger reappears. Anyone know where it's stored and how I get rid of it ??? TVM John

I can only locate an "import" option, there doesn't seem to be an export one (under tools or any of the other menu options). I wonder if theres something I should have had enabled to make "export" available. If so, I can't find any clues as to what it might be. In truth, having to use kmail is a compromise - I find thunderbird better, but can't find anyway of configuring kpilot to use thunderbird. regards John

Thanks for the suggestion scarecrow. It didn't work. It only seems to get the directory structure, plus a load of other stuff that seems to show that it's messages, but when opened is just garbled nonsense. It didn't touch the addressbook at all. Hence I'm still stuck with this regards John

Further to this thread where I was fighting to learn about address books and importing the info between kmail and thunderbird, I'm now wondering if it's possible to make kpilot sync more than one address book, so that when I hotsync my treo 650 it will compare both so that I have all the relevant addressing info that I need ??? Or is this likely to be a big nuisance, what with the mix of addressing info, like names, postal addresses, phone no's and email addresses etc? Perhaps someone could tell me if theres a better way of doing this? because the differences between the various e-mail clients, PIM applications etc etc is starting to get very confusing As ever, any advice/suggestions/assistance is very much appreciated. regards John

OK, having spent a while courtesy of google and various kde sites/sections, I'm no further ahead. the kmail I have installed doesn't seem to have anyway of copying/converting the thunderbird addressbook - well not one that I can find. I did find a way of getting some mail and directory structure but that's exactly what I'm not trying to do. The stuff that google "threw up" didn't get me any closer. What am I actually trying to do? Well I want to be able to use kpilot to sync my treo 650 (which it does) but to copy the address book from thunderbird (which has been my main mail client for sometime). As far as I can find, it seems that kmail will probably work best with kpilot (logic dictates ??? 2 "k" apps etc). Hence trying to copy the address book from thunderbird to kmail. So any ideas or suggestions or links that you know of are still very much appreciated. regards John EDIT - OK, I've just manually copied over the address items (copy and paste etc), so I'll start a new thread about my next question!

OK, I wonder how I'd do that. I've managed to find a file in the thunderbird directory, but it's .mab format (which I'm presuming is "mozilla address book" format), but it'd need to be converted to LDIF format, which is a little over my head! Which menu/toolbar heading might that come under I wonder, because I can always modify the toolbar so that it has the particular "item" for me to get the address book from thunderbird. I'm gonna have a google as suggested by spinynorman (though I posted as I didn't have a clue as to where to start!) and see what that comes up with. TVM thus far for the ideas/suggestions. I'll report back as to how I get on. regards John

Does anyone have any idea how I would go about copying my Thunderbird address book/contacts list over to the KDE Kontact/K-mail apps? Why? because I've been using Thunderbird as my mail client for a while now and I'd like to be able to copy the addresses that I've saved to Kontact/K-mail as I understand that that would work more easily with Kpilot that I've installed to be able to sync my Palm Treo 650. So that I can use the Treo 650's mail client but still be able to use kmail as well ??? regards John

Just for the sake of passing any relevant info, I did indeed receive a nice shiney new Treo 650 smartphone and after I installed kpilot I followed the instructions and tried to "sync" it. Inititially, it didn't want too play, and no I couldn't locate any obvious reason why. So I just did a bit of digging round the available packages in the MCC, and ended up installing the complete kdePIM suite (the 3.5 version, courtesy of Thac and Ze at the anorien mirror at Warwick) plus any development libs, and when I followed the instructions it did indeed "sync" (Oh and did I mention that I installed all of the "kontact" stuff, as it would appear that kpilot will work best with that). Now I should also point out, that this is my first "foray" into the world of "palm" and their OS (not to mention their devices). Yes, I do feel more at home with it, but that hasn't prevented a "learning curve" as it feels rather different to windows. So I'm getting there, but it's gonna take a while until I'm happy that I know how to use the device to my satisfaction. The only downside is that the included software with the device doesn't seem to support linux, only windows and Mac. Ah well, never mind eh! Thats nothing new really, is it! regards John

Nah! the lat/long should give it away AussieJohn. In a past life (the RN) I did get the opportunity to visit the "proper" south, just not your bit. The South Atlantic! (and yes I can confirm that it does in deed, get bloody cold among the ice :D). Besides, Gowator obviously missed this comment from my original post 'Cos IMO, gentoo dumps on debian by way of package management big time. Yes I have used both, and even gentoo's "stable" packages are more up to date than most of the stuff available via debian + you don't have to meddle with apt-sources lists with gentoo like you do with debian. Don't get me wrong, debian and derivatives are good, just not as good as........... etc. I'm sure you can guess the rest. Also IMO, Mandriva's urpmi is, when properly configured, better than just about all the other RPM based package managers. It's more intuitive than YaST and has a few plus points over anything deadrat have come up with. Yaddah Yaddah! Yes I know it's "horses for courses". All distros have plus and minus points. Working out how to do some of the more juicy stuff with mandriva can take a bit of learning/getting used too. Whereas, with gentoo, I found that most of "them" expected me to have at least the same level of knowledge/expertise as they did. Ain't gonna happen anytime soon (and probably all the time my arse points downwards). I do enjoy and appreciate linux full stop! But I'm not so engrossed with it that I need to learn everything about it and it's various flavours. It's fair to admit, I'm no geek/nerd/whatever, I'm here because I have social/moral/ethical issues with some of microsofts more "dubious" business tactics - hence I'm probably more comfortable with the way that mandriva does things that I ever was with gentoo (even though gentoo is considerably easier to manage IMO). The original post was only because I'd never seen mandriva working in that way - it was a new, and pleasant experience - though whether thats because someone at mandriva woke up or whether it's connected with the recent aquisitions, I can't say. Oh well, I suppose I'll have to go and start reading up about kpilot as I ordered a replacement for my windows based smartphone yesterday. I understand that the treo 650 should "just work" (without having to familiarise myself with god knows what, which is what happened with the old smartphone - Ha! with any luck, when the treo is due for replacement, someone might have actually bothered to start marketing a linux based one in the UK)!. regards John