manmath sahu

Finished installing mdv 2008 free. after installing w32codecs and libdvdcss2 i have no problem in browsing and playing video dvds on kaffeine. even i installed dkms-cdfs from pclinuxos repository so that i could easily copy some of my classic video cds. However, i am still looking for answers on why mdv ppk could not even mount the video dvds. I think it's the most hurried or improvised work than a polished one. Lessons to all linux lovers, try mdv free. powerpack is just a disappointment.

thanks. i am just installing mandriva 2008 free, i will post my experience soon.

thanks for your answer. i think it's better to go back to mdv 2008 free. i had no such problem with the free version, but ppk created all the issues - is not it an irony! many users have problem with playing and browsing dvd with ppk. is it worth its salt. perhaps mdv people hurriedly brought out the ppk, they should have tested it well. one lesson i learnt ppk is not as good as its seems from a distance.

i wonder i can't even browse video dvds whereas i have no problem in browsing data dvds. i installed libdvdread it's a tiny package installed within a second. but still nothing to my avail.

Thanks you came to my rescue! Actually I have already installed libdvdcss2 and libdvdnav. The strange thing is that I can't even browse any video DVDs. But there is no problem in reading/browsing data DVDs. Installed mplayer and vlc both, but still I can't play any commercial DVDs, though all of them played well on Mdv 2008 Free. While browsing solutions for my problem on official mandriva forum and on this forum I found many having bad experience with lindvd and mdv 2008 ppk. However, all of them have problem with playing the DVDs, but here I can't even browse the video dvds. Let me cut short the facts: 1. there is no problem in browsing data dvds 2. unable to play or browse video dvds 3. libdvdcss2 and libdvdnav is installed 4. vlc and mplayer are also installed 5. shows no message on konsole while i pop in a video dvd please suggest a fix for this problem

You are very very right. Thank you all for your answers. Last night I installed Mandriva 2008 Powerpack on my notebook. I have some weird problems after installation. I am unable to pay video dvds on lindvd. What's worse, I can't browse the video dvds though I have no problem browsing data dvds. I have also installed libdvdcss still nothing to my avail. Previously I had none of the problems with mandriva 2008 free. I had a great computing experience after installing some non-free stuffs. But how come such weird things happen with powerpack. Please help me out! Thanks in advance.

Hi All, I got Mandriva 2008 Powerpack with March issue of Linux Magazine. I am yet to install it on my home machine. But before that I would like to ask you few questions in this order: 1. Has this version of powerpack fixed some bugs that were reported when mandiva 2008 released, because it is long gap from that date. 2. Does this version has updated kernel and xorg since it's very long duration from the date of mandriva 2008 release to the date when linux magazine distributed it free with the magazine. Hope somebody will answer these questions. Waiting for your answer earnestly.

Thanks Darth! That's an honest answer.

Let's face the canon, Linux desktop is behind others in some ways, that's why people use MS or Mac (even paying hefty amount towards it) and they don't use Linux though it's absolutely free, cutting edge and advanced. Don't get me wrong. By this statement I don't mean that linux desktop is technically backward, in fact it's superior. Anybody who says Linux desktop lags behind means it does not give that comfortable computing experience at home. Of course, there are many reasons behind it, the most important of them is - it lacks mature desktop software (though it's not a fault of linux developer). Independent software companies don't make software for Linux as they don't see profit from it. Windows comes preinstalled and pre-configured, and there is no dearth of mature software. There is some geeky approach in Linux whereas MS and Apple are customer-centric. Desktop environment and OS should be invisible to the user, and that's what proprietary OSs practice. Tell me how many times you tinkered with the os of your mobile phone? MS sucks in terms of virus, adware, trojans, etc..., but I rarely meet any annoyance with Windows XP desktop (explorer) and Mac desktop (Aqua), whereas in linux we have tons of DEs such as kde, gnome, xfce, fluxbox, icewm..... that will break if you do a little playing around. Proprietary OS's run by a unified development, you can say they are designed. Right, it is slow and not cutting edge. But Linux has grown to a bizarre multiplicity - variety of software management systems (rpm, dep, cnr, tgz....), loads of desktop environment, lack of backward compatibiliy and many more..... Right, it is cutting edge but chaotic too. Said all that. Let me tell my heart. I am an avid Linux lover, I posting this reply right on top of Mandriva 2008, but I must admit the rough edges of Linux. Of course, Linux desktop is fast improving, and soon it will overcome these issues.

thanks!

Right. I get my mandriva desktop ready in exactly 1 min of switching on the power button. So, I am not worried about the performance hinderance or space consumption. But I am worried about "why cannot I remove those stuff that are not necessary."

I am using mandriva 2008 free. I like its stability and usability. My notebook is having x3100 graphics card, intel hda sound card and realtek ethernet card. All are working fine. But while updating my notebook I noticed several other graphics and sound drivers are installed. While removing them it shows that it is going to remove those necessary drivers also. Would anybody suggest me how to uninstall the unnecessary drivers?

Like they say -- as good as it gets! Thanks a lot for making the discussion delicious.

Great explanation to all the issues raised by Sudhanshu! And also you helped (you made my day) me tackle/explain my friends who ask sometimes about linux annoyances (I have nothing to complain about, Linux has much for me). I have but one question. Regarding software installation. Many times I get stuck in software installation. I would agree Linux most often does a good job autoconfiguring device drivers. On my notebook Mandriva detected every bit of my hardware. But while trying SLED 10 SP1 (just did it for fun) I could not succeed in installing the drivers. Frankly speaking, if its there in xorg and kernel, it damn easy. But if it is not there, device installation becomes cryptic. Whereas in Windows installing device drivers is a must. But it's easy, just click and go. Hope the situation will improve when the device manufacturers will realize that there is a strong linux user base who are using their drivers. Though sudhanshu has some problems by his dkms-cdfs (he had compiled it from source), I could not built one for me, fortunately Anurag (Project Lead of Granular Linux) compiled that module for me and it worked well under on Granular, PCLinuxOS and Mandriva 2008 (may be the three have much in common). I get my daily chore of computing from linux. I have no problem with tux. As for sudhansu, he is little annoyed over linux but he is still using Mandriva as his only OS. His reason for using it: Windows seems the OS of Microsoft, Linux seems to be his own pet OS, he can do/undo things in Linux the way he likes, though it will take some time. ianw1974, thanks a ton! Your nice words made our day.

My friend Sudhanshu wants to share few words with Linux community. He was a Windows user now turned to a full-time Linux user only last week. He asked me several things, +ves and -ves of linux, I told him to recollect all his thought and put into paper. Here is what he says. I thought it would be better to put the ideas on Mandriva forum. Because mandriva is the best usable and easy desktop in the linux world. At least I think so. Hope, the members will address some of the issues raised by my friend. So that he (and many others) will know why linux is so if it is so. Here goes my friend Sudhanshu...... "I just want to share some of linux ecstacy and agony with you. Linux is a great server. In my office we never had any problem running web servers on Mandriva, RHEL or Debian. But I wonder why Linux Desktop is still rough around the corners. Lemme site some examples (all from my experience). I am never sure whether I can copy the next VCD on my Linux Desktop. First time I tried to copy the vcd files I was unable. Then somebody suggested me to use vcdimager and/or vcdgear. Tried that. Some of the vcds get copied, some still could not (but i tried them on XP, all get copied like breeze). Then somebody else told me to use cdfs. I did that as well. And it was a tedious job building a kernel module (dkms-cdfs). It did better job then vcdimager and vcdgear. But still I find problem. Next is the issue with drivers. Mandriva 2007 did not have drivers for my x3100 graphics card. Somebody told me to download the latest xorg-video-intel driver. Downloaded it, but it could not go. It asked for a later xorg-server. Upgraded it. Still could not succeed. Of course, Mandriva 2008 install detected my driver and autoconfigured. But, again a big but, I get only 24bit color at the best, whereas on windows I could get 32bit color. It's not a big issue, but nontheless a concern. I always loved my system clean. That's why I used many disk-cleaning tools on windows partition. But while using kleansweep on Mandriva, I got dire results. I could not got my desktop back. I had to do a fresh install. Later I came to know that kleansweep is quite unintelligent while choosing what keep and what to dump. But I never had such a problem before. Then big issue was with getting proper software. Take for example K3b. It's versatile. But again not like that of Nero (I talking about the Windows version, NeroLinux lags behind K3b). Whenever I write CD/DVD on Nero, I am sure it burns well. But in K3b I have to cautious about the burning speed, else the media is gone. The same thing goes with other softwares like Deluge and Ktorrent. None of them are as good as utorrent or bitcomet... On other front such as Office suites and graphics, linux apps are not that much productive. Let me explain, I never found OpenOffice as responsive (and fast) as MS Office. I never find GIMP as usable and versatile as Photoshop. Coming to illustration software, inkscape, xara and sodipodi lag miles behind CorelDraw and Adobe illustrator. The same goes with video-editing and audio-editing apps. Another big challenge. Last week I purchased disks of Britannica Encyclopedia and Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary. I refer both of them at home and office. Both of them has option to speak/pronounce text and both come with Linux and Windows versons in a pack. In windows I never had any problem. OALD took MS speech engine and Britannica took quicktime. But while trying them on Mandriva the speech engines did not work. Britannica and OLAD both asked to install VLC (despite the fact that I the system already had the latest versions of VLC) then it told to use the VLC binary that came with the Britannica and OLAD. Did that as well. But still no going.... Coming to web browsing. Previously, I had 64kbp bandwidth with I upgrade to 128 last month (64kbp sucks). In windows I have always found it a bad experience to browse, but accessing the web was never a challenge. While in Mandriva 2008 I could not access some of the websites. Firefox would fire some rounds of search and then it will say "The server is redirecting the page in such a way that would never....." and stand still... Later after a full days toil, I came to know it was an ipv6 issue. I disabled ipv6 globally. Now I enjoy browsing on firefox the best. Well, let me explain one more thing... Firefox is great in many respects, but it has one -ve, it's still very slow to start, whereas IE4, 5, 6 and 7 all are very fast to start, though they fall flat before FF feature-wise. I visit distrowatch regularly. Love to read the software and new-releases. I am very annoyed, when will the bugs will ever go. Every new release note tells it fixed certain bugs, but still there are many to be fixed on the next release. The n-number of alphas, betas and rcs... Then coming to desktop environment. Windows Desktop Environment (Explorer) and Mac Environment (Aqua) rarely break/crash. (I am talking about desktop environment and not the system or OS). But I have crashed KDE and GNOME several times. You tinker a little and will be dragged to a text terminal. At some good times you can come back to desktop and at some bad times you have to re-install or re-configure the desktop... Last words... Despite all those things I use Linux. I am proud of its growth. It's improving like anything. Only last sunday, I deleted my windows partition and did a fresh install of Mandriva 2008. Because I love FOSS, GNU and Linux. I like their philosophy of software development and deployment. And like the linux security. But as I told earlier, I just pray god and the developers to smooth the rough edges of Linux. Hope the situation will improve in next few years. Thanks all the forum members."

I installed the new kernel. But again, that error is still there. But one good thing i noticed is my system has become little fast. thanks.

I wanted to upgrade the kernel because of just one issue. During boot and shutdown i see the following error: ACPI Exception (processor_core-0781): AE_NOT_FOUND, Processor Device is not present [20070126] Many say it is not a fatal error. That's why I plan to stick with the 2.6.22.9 kernel. But I would like to inform that I could never find a fix for that error. This bug has been logged. But nobody has found any fix till the time I am posting this message.

Presently I have no problem with my Mandriva install. But I thought a newer kernel will improve my computing as a whole. Thanks for the prompt reply.

hi, i am on a 64kb line. so. i've removed the all other repos other than the install dvd. whenever i need new applications i download them somewhere else and install them at my home. my internet is barely manages to browse a few webpages and emailing. here all i meant is to download the kernel somewhere else (my net will take ever to download something around 50MB), and then install that on my system how can i download it? give me the url. tell me how to do install new kernel offline way. thanks and regards.

i visited distrowatch and came to know that mandriva 2008.1 is coming with kernel 2.6.24. i have mandriva 2008 installed on my notebook. should i upgrade my kernel to 2.6.24? is the new kernel available in any mandriva repositories? if so, where? also please post here the urls from where i can upgrade my kernel. thanks and regards [moved from Software by spinynorman]

i stopped cpufreq service. still i see that error message. anyways, thanks for the prompt reply.

Thanks! But what about that - ACPI Exception (processor_core-0781): AE_NOT_FOUND, Processor Device is not present [20070126] Is it a fatal message? I wonder how to stop this message.

I have mandriva 2008 installed on my laptop - compaq presario c702tu. It has 1.73 Ghz Celeron M cpu and 512 RAM. It takes 1 minute to boot. (duration from pressing the power start button to the complete KDE desktop). Is it the normal boot time or is my laptop/mandriva slow? Also at startup and shutdown I see the following line. ACPI Exception (processor_core-0781): AE_NOT_FOUND, Processor Device is not present [20070126] Is it a fatal message? If so, what can I do to get over it? Please suggest me. Thanks in advance.

Hi All, I have yet another problem. This time in shutdown. Previous I had installed Mandriva 2008 KDE desktop. Last night I installed task-gnome. Everything works fine but while shutdown it show the following error. Shutting down alsa sound server: fatal : module snd_pcm_oss is in use Fatal: snd_mixer_oss is in use. NB: previously i was running Mandriva 2008 Free with only KDE desktop. This error came in after i installed gnome desktop. Please suggest me how to fix this problem.

Here is the output of chkconfig --list | grep on acpi 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off acpid 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off alsa 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off apmd 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off avahi-daemon 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:off 5:on 6:off consolekit 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off cpufreq 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off crond 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off dkms 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off dm 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:on 6:off haldaemon 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off harddrake 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off keytable 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off kheader 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:off 5:on 6:off laptop-mode 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off messagebus 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off netconsole 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off network 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off network-up 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off partmon 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off resolvconf 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off sound 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off syslog 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off xfs 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off