Jimtim

After sorting out my problems with Realplayer (thanks guys! :D ) I now move onto my next problem with Mandriva - playing streamed audio that can only be read with Wind :wacko: ws media player.

I have recently re-installed Mandriva 2007, after accidently updating to cooker. :woops: Before the re-install, I could play these files with the Mplayer plugin - although it worked very badly (it was too slow and would only read the first item on a list of streamed audio files). Now, mplayer will not even launch and I get the message no picture. I should add that I have dowloaded mplayer, the mplayer plugin, as well as the win32-codecs, and that the system is up to date.

 

Thanks in advance

OK, here is what happens:

 

Firefox: I can hear Albanian TV but I cannot see it; however, Greek tv works. The BBC never works with the embedded player but sometimes works when I save the target on my desktop and open with Realplayer

 

Opera: generally works fine. I can now watch Albanian TV as well as Greek and Cyprus TV. When I click on a Real link, the player comes on and works. The BBC always seems to work in stand alone player and sometimes works with the embedded player. BBC radio works too.

 

There we are chaps - I don't think we're going to get better than this! I think we can now safely say that it works. :woot_jump:

 

Now, all I need to do is get the Windows Media files working...But I'll post that on another thread and on another day! I need a rest from Linux now - and I have work to do!

 

Thanks once again for your help

Hi VilasIndia,

 

I have Mandriva Free. All the sources are up to date. I have downloaded Realplayer via two methods: using the rpm found on the Realplayer site (I didn't download the tarball) and by SOS. The problem appears to be in the configuration of something rather than in the installation. Realplayer does work, it just doesn't do what it's supposed to do! Actually, it worked perfectly last night, but now I only get sound.

 

OK, the cold boot did the trick! I'll test it out more thoroughly later - I have to get my son from school!

To answer your question Silversurfer, when I click on the Albanian television link on beeline, realplayer comes up (a bit of progress there at least) but there is no video - only sound.

OK, I've just un-installed Realplayer and re-installed it by Arctic's method. Then I put in the path usr/bin/realplay in about:config. When I clicked on the BBC link and chose Launch in stand alone player, Realplayer was this time listed. However, the embedded player was lost and put up the missing plug-in message. Then, for science, I uninstalled it again and re-installed it by clicking on the rpm. This time, when I launched the same clip with the stand alone player the only programme that I could choose was gxine. However, the embedded player was happier and put up realplayer only to promptly replace it with a white screen.

In both instances, the embedded player doesn't work and launching the clip with the stand alone player results in Realplayer starting, but only with sound!!!

However since Jim has used the RealPlayer-10.0.8.805-3.SoS.2007.0.i586.rpm he must change:

 

/usr/local/bin/realplay

 

to

 

/usr/bin/realplay

 

There is nothing realplayer in this address. When I change the path to /usr/local/realplayer/realplay, which is where I find the realplay bin, nothing happens.

Yes, I have. My Opera configuration is exactly the same as yours, and here is a copy of the relevant part of about: config in F

 

network.protocl-handler.external.rtsp - user set - booean - true

network.protocol-handler.app.rtsp - user set - string - realplay

Still no video in Opera -only sound.Ahhhh! We had it working! What's wrong with it now??

As for Firefox, I had already followed Greg's instructions - all to no avail.

OK, that nearly works for Opera. When I click on the link Realplayer starts, there is sound, but no video.

 

Ah! I have no video at all in fact. I can't see anything on the BBC site either anymore!

This is the link that I tried last night. In fact, it does work! Last night I clicked on the Albanian television link, the one that works on Greg's system, and concluded that because it didn't work, there was still a problem somewhere. This morning I tried again, and some of the channels do work. In Firefox I have to save target onto my desktop so that I can choose the programme, but Opera usually allows me to choose the programme I want without doing this.

Incidently, the messages I get on the links that don't work might be revealing:

With Firefox I get:

Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (rtsp) isn't assoicated with any program.

With Opera I get (and it is the same links):

The address is unknow or unsupported.

 

 

By the way, it might be interesting for you to know that when you want to watch a BBC clip, in Opera it is possible to do this within the BBC player: it isn't necessary to launch it in the stand alone player. It really does seem to me that Opera is a lot easier and more efficient at media treatment than the new version of Firefox.

 

It looks pretty well then that we have solved my problem.

 

Now I have a couple more problems to resolve, and then my migration to Linux will be complete! :D

Yeap, but there does remain a little problem. I can't see Greg's link. Still, my primary goal is achieved now. I'll worry about that another time.

Yesssssssssssssss! Now we're there!!!!!!! Yipppeeeeeeee! With Opera at least!

I simply copied the two nphelix files into the Opera plugins directory and it all works perfectly! That suits me, Silversurfer, we've solved that one! I'd never have managed without you!

 

Now, if you've got enough energy, I have a couple more little problems...But I'll wait till tomorrow! Best go to bed on a victory! I'll post a new thread in the morning! :D :P

 

Thanks once again

 

Jim

Not So :unsure: fast! We're not there yet! I can't see Greg's link, either in Firefox or Opera. But I have found this BBC It seems that I'm not alone!

I've just found a partial solution

It's simple really. When the BBC menu comes up, I click Launch in stand alone player then save to disk. A link is then placed on the desktop. When I double click this I can choose which programme I want to open it with (as you may remember, I can't do that in the window that appears when I click on Launch in stand alone player as I can only choose mplayer here). Then I choose Realplayer and tick Remember application association for this type of file . Then, all I need to do is double click the link on the desktop and it starts.

I think this shows that the problem is more likely to be with Firefox than with Realplayer (and I have already seen that it works with Opera). I think that it is as I said earlier - correct me if you think I'm wide off the mark - Firefox cannot find Realplayer and so doesn't include it on the list of programmes that are capable of reading the link. It then tries to use what it can find, which is mplayer, and fails because mplayer doesn't have the real codecs.

But if this is the case, why me? We can hardly say it's something I've done as I have a spankling new system freshly installed. I wonder if it would have worked better if I had started off doing it with Firefox 1.5 before downloading Firefox 2.0? ;)

OK, did that but nothing's changed. Now when I try to do the same thing the menu doesn't come back up. Hmm...

OK, I have some good news :D :D :D But first the plugins. I've copied the relevant ones below:

 

VLC multimedia plugin

 

File name: libvlcplugin.so

VLC multimedia plugin

 

version 0.8.5 Janus

VideoLAN WWW: http://www.videolan.org/

 

MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled

audio/mpeg MPEG audio mp2,mp3,mpga,mpega Yes

audio/x-mpeg MPEG audio mp2,mp3,mpga,mpega Yes

video/mpeg MPEG video mpg,mpeg,mpe Yes

video/x-mpeg MPEG video mpg,mpeg,mpe Yes

video/mpeg-system MPEG video mpg,mpeg,mpe,vob Yes

video/x-mpeg-system MPEG video mpg,mpeg,mpe,vob Yes

video/mpeg4 MPEG-4 video mp4,mpg4 Yes

audio/mpeg4 MPEG-4 audio mp4,mpg4 Yes

application/mpeg4-iod MPEG-4 video mp4,mpg4 Yes

application/mpeg4-muxcodetable MPEG-4 video mp4,mpg4 Yes

video/x-msvideo AVI video avi Yes

video/quicktime QuickTime video mov,qt Yes

application/x-ogg Ogg stream ogg Yes

application/ogg Ogg stream ogg Yes

application/x-vlc-plugin VLC plugin Yes

video/x-ms-asf-plugin Windows Media Video asf,asx Yes

video/x-ms-asf Windows Media Video asf,asx Yes

application/x-mplayer2 Windows Media Yes

video/x-ms-wmv Windows Media wmv Yes

application/x-google-vlc-plugin Google VLC pluginaudio/wav :WAV audioaudio/x-wav::WAV audio: Yes

Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible

 

File name: nphelix.so

Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible version 0.4.0.622 built with gcc 3.2.0 on Jul 18 2006

 

MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled

audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin RealPlayer Plugin Metafile rpm Yes

Google VLC multimedia plugin 1.0

 

File name: mplayerplug-in-gmp.so

mplayerplug-in 3.25

 

Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer

JavaScript Enabled and Using GTK2 Widgets

 

MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled

application/x-google-vlc-plugin Google Video Yes

QuickTime Plug-in 6.0

 

File name: mplayerplug-in-qt.so

mplayerplug-in 3.25

 

Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer

JavaScript Enabled and Using GTK2 Widgets

 

MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled

video/quicktime Quicktime mov Yes

video/x-quicktime Quicktime mov Yes

image/x-quicktime Quicktime mov Yes

video/quicktime Quicktime mp4 Yes

video/quicktime Quicktime - Session Description Protocol sdp Yes

application/x-quicktimeplayer Quicktime mov Yes

application/smil SMIL smil Yes

RealPlayer 9

 

File name: mplayerplug-in-rm.so

mplayerplug-in 3.25

 

Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer

JavaScript Enabled and Using GTK2 Widgets

 

MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled

audio/x-pn-realaudio RealAudio ram,rm Yes

application/vnd.rn-realmedia RealMedia rm Yes

application/vnd.rn-realaudio RealAudio ra,ram Yes

video/vnd.rn-realvideo RealVideo rv Yes

audio/x-realaudio RealAudio ra Yes

application/smil SMIL smil Yes

Windows Media Player Plugin

 

File name: mplayerplug-in-wmp.so

mplayerplug-in 3.25

 

Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer

JavaScript Enabled and Using GTK2 Widgets

 

MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled

application/asx Media Files * Yes

video/x-ms-asf-plugin Media Files * Yes

video/x-msvideo AVI avi,* Yes

video/msvideo AVI avi,* Yes

application/x-mplayer2 Media Files * Yes

application/x-ms-wmv Microsoft WMV video wmv,* Yes

video/x-ms-asf Media Files asf,asx,* Yes

video/x-ms-wm Media Files wm,* Yes

video/x-ms-wmv Microsoft WMV video wmv,* Yes

audio/x-ms-wmv Windows Media wmv,* Yes

video/x-ms-wmp Windows Media wmp,* Yes

video/x-ms-wvx Windows Media wvx,* Yes

audio/x-ms-wax Windows Media wax,* Yes

audio/x-ms-wma Windows Media wma,* Yes

application/x-drm-v2 Windows Media asx,* Yes

audio/wav Microsoft wave file wav,* Yes

audio/x-wav Microsoft wave file wav,* Yes

mplayerplug-in 3.25

 

File name: mplayerplug-in.so

mplayerplug-in 3.25

 

Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer

JavaScript Enabled and Using GTK2 Widgets

 

MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled

video/mpeg MPEG mpg,mpeg Yes

audio/mpeg MPEG mpg,mpeg Yes

video/x-mpeg MPEG mpg,mpeg Yes

video/x-mpeg2 MPEG2 mpv2,mp2ve Yes

audio/mpeg MPEG mpg,mpeg Yes

audio/x-mpeg MPEG mpg,mpeg Yes

audio/mpeg2 MPEG audio mp2 Yes

audio/x-mpeg2 MPEG audio mp2 Yes

video/mp4 MPEG 4 Video mp4 Yes

audio/mpeg3 MPEG audio mp3 Yes

audio/x-mpeg3 MPEG audio mp3 Yes

audio/x-mpegurl MPEG url m3u Yes

audio/mp3 MPEG audio mp3 Yes

application/x-ogg Ogg Vorbis Media ogg Yes

audio/ogg Ogg Vorbis Audio ogg Yes

application/ogg Ogg Vorbis / Ogg Theora ogg Yes

video/fli FLI animation fli,flc Yes

video/x-fli FLI animation fli,flc Yes

video/vnd.vivo VivoActive viv,vivo Yes

application/x-nsv-vp3-mp3 Nullsoft Streaming Video nsv Yes

video/divx DivX Media Format divx Yes

video/vnd.divx DivX Media Format divx Yes

audio/basic Basic Audio File au,snd Yes

audio/x-basic Basic Audio File au,snd Yes

 

 

 

Now for the news. Id don't know why I hadn't thought of this before, but I've just tried in Opera and IT WORKS!!! Well, nearly, there's no sound. Any suggestions?

:sad: Sorry, this doesn't work. I made a link to the plugins (to nphelix.so and nphelix.xpt) in the hidden Mozilla directory - no result - then I tried Greg's method of making a link in the components directory (to nphelix.xpt)- the same. It really seems from where I'm sitting that the problem is that Mandriva absolutely wants to open up the links with mplayer, but that it can't becasue it doesn't have the Realplayer codecs (can I copy them into mplayer?).

Is there a way of completely wiping out both mplayer and Realplayer from the system (I ask this because I have tried using urpme but this method doesn't totally erase the programmess)? If I could do that, then perhaps I could re-install Realplayer and Mandriva would use it to open the links? I should add that I have already tried removing mplayer, but that all that happens is that I get a blank screen.

I don't want to sound dim, but I really must check everything. You're saying that I need to create a directory called plugins in the hidden mozilla directory, into which I will create a link to nphelix.so; then I need to find the components directory in file /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0 into which I will create a link to nphelix.xpt.1. I need to check this because sometimes it sounds like they go in the same place. For example:

As SilverSurfer60 has noted: Copy or link nphelix.so to your Mozilla plugins directory and nphelix.xpt to your Mozilla components directory.

Anyway, need to sleep now , I'll post tomorrow after work!

 

Thanks once again!

Sorry, there's no components directory anywhere. Do I create one now? And where do I create this or these directories? In Firefox or in jcrjvbb5.default?

I did wonder if that was possible. And, going back to our previous discussion :D , I should also make a directory called components. Right?

I was confused, that's why I asked for clarification. But it's OK now - I understand.

OK I cannot find the plugins file. I will explain to you what I've got.

When I open the hidden mozilla file, I have one file called firefox, and an unknown file called appreg.

In firefox I have the following: a folder called jcrjvbb5.default, an empty document called migrated,

an HTML document called pluginreg, and a plain text document called profiles.ini.

I have taken a screen shot of what is in the folder called crjvbb5.default. As you can see, there is nothing in there that looks like plugins (except extensions, but that's not the same, is it?):

 

What do I do next?

I'll try both methods - perhaps they both work.

 

I've opened the hidden Mozilla file. There is no codecs file and no plugins file. There is, however, an extensions file as well as a bookmark, chrome and cache file

Hang on!!!! I've just noticed something! Your little squiggle has appeared again and there's a dot in front of mozilla. Oh for the little details! :P Now I think I understand - I hadn't seen, or paid attention, to these little things before! You've just told me that your squiggle thingy means home directory and, I remember from one of my first posts that the dot means hidden file. Right! OK, I've been trying to link with the Mozilla file in the root directory - this isn't right is it?

 

I'll check before I do anything.

1) I cd the hidden mozilla file in my home directory

2) I cd usr/local/Realplayer/mozilla

3) I copy the two files nphelix.so and nphelix.xpt in the hidden mozilla file

4) I restart Firefox and...everything should be hunky dory.

 

Do you agree with this? :o

Ahhh...now things are a little clearer! T :D hanks very much for the precision!

I've just un-installed Realplayer and then re-installed it by double-clicking the rpm package. I now find a realplay script in usr/bin but still nothing in usr/local/bin. Just to make sure, do you agree with this?

As SilverSurfer60 has noted: Copy or link nphelix.so to your Mozilla plugins directory and nphelix.xpt to your Mozilla components directory.