Many thanks for Your help, ive got into kde, so im getting some where thanks to you, as for the numlock problem, i dont think its the numlock, when i tap the numlk/scrlk key a light that resembles a lockcomes on with a downward pointed arrow on it, the caps lock has a letter inside the pic of a lock, and the one that is stuck on has a number 1 in it. I would of thought this is the numlk button but it cant be, my laptop is a elitegroup g320.
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