dude67

it seems the symlink didn't take. could go onto the command line, get into the site_perl directory and give us the output of:

ls -l

If you meant the folder wher I found SDL.pm then it's this: /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux/

[root@localhost i386-linux]#   
total 137
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root	31 Feb 28 22:00 5.8.8 -> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root  1024 Feb 25 20:43 auto/
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   161 May 11  2004 fb_c_stuff.pm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 85659 Oct 27 13:14 FBLE.pm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16326 Nov 23 23:45 fb_net.pm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12579 Nov 30 20:57 fb_stuff.pm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  1600 May 11  2004 fbsyms.pm
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root  1024 Feb 23 19:30 SDL/
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root	90 Apr  4  2002 SDL_perl.pm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 14004 Jan  3  2003 SDL.pm

The first line 5.8.8 -> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/ was blinking red, so there must be something wrong with it - right?

OK, will do, when I get home this evening.

What is the problem, if these folders do exist? The one that I mentioned (and the one I tried to symlink) does not exist, but many of the ones Frozen-bubble reported do exist.

Well the /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/ does not exist, but at least some of the directories do exist... I did the symlink as you suggested, but no help. It still doesn't work.

-- EDIT --

OK, it did change the line it froze on:

Can't locate SDL.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/x86_64-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/x86_64-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/x86_64-linux /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7/x86_64-linux /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .) at ./frozen-bubble line 51.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./frozen-bubble line 51.

Earlier it looked like this:

Can't locate SDL.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/x86_64-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/x86_64-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/x86_64-linux 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7/x86_64-linux  /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .) at ./frozen-bubble line 56.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./frozen-bubble line 56.

OK, first I found out that perl-SDL-1.20.0-15mdv2007.0 is already installed. So it's not that.

Then this is what I did as root:

[root@localhost xxxxx]# locate SDL.pm
bash: locate: command not found
[root@localhost xxxxx]# updatedb
bash: updatedb: command not found
[root@localhost xxxxx]# updatedb
bash: updatedb: command not found
[root@localhost xxxxx]#

I have to admit, I was a bit lost for a minute, but then I dug a little deeper (= googled) and installed slocate in MCC.

This is what I got after slocate:

[root@localhost xxxxx]# locate SDL.pm
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux/SDL.pm
[root@localhost xxxxx]#

OK. What does that tell us? That frozen bubble cannot find the SDL.pm, because it's not looking for it in the right places? If so, how can I tell it where it is?

Hi all,

I've just got myself a set of new HW. It's a 6400 Core Duo Processor PC, with an NVIDIA Graphics chip 7600 GT in a graphics card (256 MB) made by MSI. The motherboard is also MSI. It has 2 x 1024 MB memory.

This new PC is running Madriva 2007.0 as is my older PC (still working fine). In the old PC (with an ATI X700 Pro graphics card) I can get Frozen Bubble running with no problems, but not with this new PC. I've used the same installation DVD with the both of them. This is what I get in shell command (ctrl-E) from trying to run Frozen Bubble:

Can't locate SDL.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/x86_64-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/x86_64-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/x86_64-linux /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7/x86_64-linux  /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .) at ./frozen-bubble line 56.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./frozen-bubble line 56.

It would seem that I'm missing some vital libraries, but I'm not really sure what to do... Anyone?

I've downloaded files from NVIDIA's site, so it should be OK. From running glxgears I get three nice gears w/ around 10500 to 18000 fps.

From this following, I believe I can see that 3D rendering is running (or am I wrong?).

$ glxinfo | grep direct
direct rendering: Yes

I've managed to play Mania Drive and Tuxracer , but e.g. Quake II and Frozen-Bubble would not play... What can I do; I would need Frozen-Bubble up & running ASAP as it's usually my wife that wants to play it! :o

Thanks already in advance.

I am now starting to believe that my problems with KDE had to do with Mandriva problems with ATI cards (or ATI problems with Mandriva...). In my topic (solved) https://mandrivausers.org/index.php?showtopic=37672 I really thought it was a problem with Mandriva and KDE, but I believe it's with ATI cards.

Like you, I also tried the 3d and the ATI new drivers (form ATI's site), but that really made Xorg system collapse. Luckily for me it the ATI installation made a back-up of the config file so I was able to return the earlier config file. I don't remember, what was the name of the file, but it was a cofig file that was renamed something like from "config" to "config.old".

This was something I did, after this solved case (link above), so I was very frustrated at that time, until I managed to get the config file back. This of course had to be done without any GUI (KDE or Gnome) and I'm not that confident without the GUI.

So my advice (as a total noob to Linux) is to find whatever file was ammended and try to find a possible back-up of it (if there is any).

Finally, I managed to solve this issue! :D

I DL'ed the latest version of TB (v1.5.0.9) and installed the app into my home directory thus having myself as the owner (not root). I guess that was the main issue with this app.

I'm still trying to solve this security issue.

I can see that the application (Thunderbird) is owned by root. Perhaps this causes the problems. How can I change the ownership of an application? I tried to log in as root, but system denied access: "Root logins are not allowed". How is this? I remember logging in as a root with the earlier installation of Mandriva 2006 FREE. I must have changed that when installing this Mandriva 2007 Free, but how can I again allow root login?

An update.

I did install the v 2.0 of FF back and the FF errors were gone. Then I noticed that TB was trying to use the same theme noia extreme that was made for v 2.0 and I guess it doesn't operate on older versions (like this 1.5.0.8). So I changed back to TB's default theme. Well that most likely didn't help my case but I noticed that it wasn't operating anymore.

Then I also noticed that the SSL was not working and not beeing sure if my ISP uses any secure means of delivering mail I checked the option "TLS if available" of the security options (TLS or SSL) and I seem to be able to connect to my ISP mail server. I tried also with "use secure connection NEVER" option and that also seems to work. So I'm guessing my ISP is not using SSL of TLS.

But the security error message is still displayed ("Could not initialize the browser's security component." Etc.). I don't know what this does so I'm still a little bit concerned even though my e-mail service is now operating.

Thanks guys for the advice, but I'm afraid I have messed something else than with FF or TB files... I tried these, but no help.

Firstly I tried what scarecrow suggested and installed openssl.

No.

Then I did this as suggested by AussieJohn:

i) I uninstalled them both Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird in MCC. I double-checked that there was no mozilla parts installed.

ii) I copied the .thunderbird and .mozilla folders to a different location in my HD and deleted them from my home folder.

iii) I rebooted.

iv) I did a clean install for both these applications - also with their official updates for Mandriva (1.5.0.8 for both FF and TB).

v) I rebooted.

Still I get the same messages and am unable to connect to my ISP: No SSL installed...

I have really done something else while updating FF to 2.0.0.1 (or something similar version number). I had to install these libraries:

libmozilla-firefox2.0 = 0:2.0-1mdv2007.0

bash

rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1

I believe it was these files I had to update as the FF 2.0 wouldn't install without them.

Do you think any of these three would do that to my system?

Help again needed... I cannot connect to my ISP mail server. I didn't do anything to my settings or passwords in Thunderbird, but I did upgrade to Firefox 2.0 through this RPM (mandrake.contactel.cz/people/bibri/mandrake/2007/RPMS/mozilla-firefox-2.0-1mdv2007.0.i586.rpm) found through RPM Search at http://rpm.pbone.net/ .

After that I got a weird message when trying to connect to my ISP server to send messages.

This new version of FF has most likely done some changes to my system, but what?

Then I uninstalled all mozilla-parts through MCC and re-installed them anew. And I only installed the 1.5.0.8 version of FF that comes with the 2007.0 DVD package.

Now I get the same message from FF when starting it... It doesn't - however - prevent me from surfting the net (as I'm writing this message in FF).

I have tried to check the folders I have these programmes installed in (not sure if I got the folders right) for read/write access for user and group (not to others).

Thunderbird is also complaining about SSL disabled - and as far as i know, that's not the case (in TB and FF)

What is wrong?

I don't even want to try the 3D desktop...

...but now its time for you to try kde-3.5.5 MDE :)

You think!?

:o

I got a fresh new installation with formated "/" and "/home" folders. I managed to save most of my e-mails, but lost some of my wife's e-mails though. I didn't save enought .thunderbird folders obviously.

All seems fine now, but when I was changing some of the KDE visual aspects (icons, themes, desktops etc.) for a short while KDE was not working properly. I've got it back, but obviously this Mandriva 2007 Free and KDE 3.5.4 are not stable together. :sad:

I don't even want to try the 3D desktop...

I'm sorry; I spoke too soon... I must re-install Mandriva as it just hangs on me quite often (now almost every 2 minutes).

So I believe my "crime" was leaving the /home directory and installing it anew with all the former settings.

I haven't done so yet as I try to get a back-up of T-bird mails before that.

DONE! I got my KDE desktop back with all my emails! :D

I did a fresh new installation using the existing partitions. The installation asked if I wanted to format "/" and "home" directories. I just made sure that home directory was unchecked.

If I only knew in the beginning, it would be that easy to leave the home directory intact... I did copy all the .thunderbird and thunderbird directories I could find into a USB HD, but I didn't need them. Well I suppose it's good to have a back up taken every now-and-then... Q.E.D. ;)

But it was a good advice to first remove the kde from the system. I didn't at first and kept having problems with my kde. I then removed the .kde directory from system and did a new clean installation of the Mandriva 2007. Now it's working great!

Well that's not quite true... I'm still having problems with Konqueror. When I'm trying to open "devices" from the desktop, it only displays Error - Konqueror "Protocol not supported device" and opens up a greyed Konqueror window (with nothing in it). I can obviously live without it, but would like to know what's causing this... It was the original problem with my 2007 installation that got me into trouble in the first place...

But in any case, I've got a working 2007 installation of Mandriva! Thank you all for your advice!

I see a multitude of misunderstanding in this thread.

First, I recommend forgetting what has been. Both mde and upgrades create plenty of issues without anything else.

In your /home/username directory, find the hidden files, .kde or .gnome, (notice the dot) and rename them . Your previous desktop settings are not going to work. Do a fresh install and then come back here. Do not do anything else.

There are several things at work here and in order to solve the issues, we need to slow down and take one step at a time.

There is nothing remarkable about the hardware, so the issue is probably misunderstanding. ;)

It has been awhile since I've had time to really get back to this problem. It has not gone anywhere, I was out of the country for awhile...

I've managed to screw more up in my system, and would like to do a fresh installation. If I could only keep my T-bird e-mails. It's not only mine, it's my wife's e-mails as well... :o

The best option is of course if I could keep my /home directory stuff.

So: how do I go about NOT formatting the /home directory? I can find five blocks of HD space, when I entered the fresh installation. The first two are for WinXP (C: and D:), then there is something like 5 GB of FS-space, one section of 1 GB (roughly) for swap and again one 40 GB slice of FS (FS?... not really sure if it was FS...). Does that mean that I only have 1 big partition for all /var /usr /tmp and /home?

If this is not possible, can I at least save my e-mails? And where is it usually installed and where are the e-mails saved?

Any thoughts?

I got a new copy of the Mandriva 2007 Free DVD. But it is all the same - no help. I cannot get any configuration option for the graphical UIs... I can only get the video card configuration options and they seem fine to me.

If /home is on a separate partition, which by default in Mandriva it is then all of your stuff is preserved and there's no need to do anything. It saves your desktop settings and everything. Unless I'm misunderstanding something?

Am I correct in assuming that I can make a total installation (OK, perhaps not formating /home partition) and still keep all my former data and files?

How do I start Gnome? I tried entering "gdm" and "gnome", but it didn't start anything. I didn't try Xorg this time around, but I'll try that again soon.

Thanks Ian for the tip, I'll try something along those lines, when I get a new copy of the 2007 Free. I'm DL'ing it currently in WinXP, but with BitTorrent it takes something like 24 hours to DL... I tried a direct DL of the iso, but it didn't work. In Mandriva I used KGET, which is a nice little programme for the purpose.

I couldn't get any GUI running, so there's something really wrong with the system. I tried with the rescue option, but it failed. There was some fatal error, but cannot remember what it was.

I'll let you know, when I get it burned (after verifying the md5sum... ) and try re-installing Mandriva 2007.

I'll try that with the re-install, AussiJohn. Thanks.

Ian: No, I didn't... I know it was there, but I didn't check the sum. Do you reckon I should DL it anew and after verifying the checksum trying to install it again. If the MD5SUM doesn't match, I'd need to DL it again before burning it - is that it?

And yes, I upgraded. The thing is, I wanted to keep all the personal files and stuff (e.g. e-mails etc.). I thought that upgrading is the only way of keeping personal data - am I wrong in assuming that?

You may be right about the KDE 3.5.5 update thing. It was just that I was a bit frustrated with the problems I had and thought it might have helped. Well, it didn't...

One more note though on the ATI card: Is there something wrong with the ATI chips as I couldn't get 3D desktop running. I just got a message that it cannot be chosen for this card... In Win side it operates just great (I hate to say...). Perhaps ATI is not the best choise for Mandriva or Linux in general?

Thanks AussiJohn, I'll try starting Gnome when I get home from work. Just to be sure: do I just type in GDM, or Gnome (or how do I start it up)? I'm sorry, but I'm fairly green to the console side of Linux... :o

No, I'm not sure it's kde, but it's kded I had problems with. It may be related to my display driver as you suggested.

One more thing: Last nigtht when I tried several times to get it up and running, I found that autofs failed to start. Does that tell you anything?

This is the basic HW:

Display card: Club 3D radeon X700 Pro 256 MB PCI-e (ATI)

Processor: Intel P4 HT 3.0 GHz

Motherboard: ABIT AG8V 3rd eye

Memory: 1024 Mb 400MHz DDR

System: Dual boot with WinXP Home & Madriva 2007 Free

Update:

No change in the situation.

I tried re-installing 2007 from DVD - no luck. At first it said there was something wrong with the bootloader. There was an error saying that /dev/sdc1 could not be found. So I removed the reference to sdc1 (it was named alt2_windows2). Then no errors found in bootloader. Still no graphical user interface.

I then added MDE updates and ran urpmi --auto-select. Took awhile to DL everything - still no KDE or any other GUI.

When I type Xorg in console as su, I get a deep blue screen (not the BLUE SCREEN) with the cursor as an X in the center of the screen. And no, I'm not able to move the cursor.

What to do; how to get KDE running?

:wacko:

I'm a real newbie and green to Linux world even though I have used Mandriva 2006 Free for almost a year now.

I updated to Mandriva 2007 Free a few days ago from a DVD-version DL'ed from an official site. Everything was great - all personal settings were fine and dandy. I'm using KDE as my major GUI. But KAT was a problem. I seem to remember de-activating KAT in 2006 also as it kept crashing.

Now it also crached KDE Daemon and I was unable to use my external USB mass memories (I have three external USB HDs - Brand LaCie). It either said that KDED is not running or Mediamanager was not installed. After I started KDED again, it usually worked fine. On other occasions I got the message "Permissions denied", when I tried to access my desktop shortcuts to the external USB HDs.

To see if an update would help I wanted to update to KDE 3.5.5 and had a go with the MDE 3.5.5 KDE through the directions from this post https://mandrivausers.org/index.php?showtopic=36298&hl=

That really messed up my KDE...

I couldn't have multiple desktops, I couldn't move any of the windows that I opened, the last application was alway on top... And most likely some of the privileges were changed (if I remember correctly).

I tried to un-install KDE in total and managed that. At first I reinstalled KDE, but it was the same MDE version that was there earlier. I tried to unmark the MDE path from the update, but obviously I was unsuccessful.

Then I urpme'd again the whole KDE now using what what was suggested at MDE site: http://www.mde.djura.org/kde_install_2007_32.html

I used "init 3" to access non-graphical interface. I then uprme'd the whole KDE and urpmi'd it back again, using only the original (official) mirrors (and not from MDE path).

Now I'm unable to start any GUI: No Ice, no KDE, no Gnome - no nothing!

I booted the PC and got only text interface to Mandriva. No matter what I tried last night I couldn't get any graphical user interface running. I tried as a regular user and as root. Nothing.

It was kinda late in the evening, so I might have missed something, but any ideas are really welcome.

I would like to

1) Get the GUIs up and running

2) Get the old cofiguration of KDE back

3) Perhaps eventually get KDE 3.5.5 running. At least get my external USB HDs showing.

Help, please!

Now I feel a bit stupid. I swear I had the sshd service up and running but it must have dropped somewhere along the line... I have on earlier occasions verified and double checked that both PCs have ssh running, but the sftp just doesn't work from this PC to the other - but works the other way around.

This time it is my stupidity - sorry folks...

What is the easiest way of starting the service when booting the system?

I tried different solutions and this is what I get from PC #1 - 192.168.254.2 (FROM which I try to connect with sftp TO the PC #2)

[xxx@linuxpurkki ~]$ sftp 192.168.254.2
Connecting to 192.168.254.2...
xxx@192.168.254.2's password:

[xxx@linuxpurkki ~]$ sftp 192.168.254.1
Connecting to 192.168.254.1...
ssh: connect to host 192.168.254.1 port 22: Connection refused
Couldn't read packet: Connection reset by peer
[xxx@linuxpurkki ~]$

This is from the other PC (PC #2 - 192.168.254.1). To me, it gets a bit weird... I cannot sftp that PC itself, but can sftp this PC...

[xxx@kakkospurkki ~]$ sftp 192.168.254.1
Connecting to 192.168.254.1...
ssh: connect to host 192.168.254.1 port 22: Connection refused
Couldn't read packet: Connection reset by peer
[xxx@kakkospurkki ~]$

[xxx@kakkospurkki ~]$ sftp 192.168.254.2
Connecting to 192.168.254.2...
xxx@192.168.254.2's password:
sftp> exit
[xxx@kakkospurkki ~]$

I'm sorry: I misread your instructions - I tried first with sftp... The results are still the same: I cannot connect with ssh to 127.0.0.0 but to 192.168.254.2 (IP of this machine) I can. So what's with that then?