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Well, last night I was trying to speedup some things in 9.0 and now it won't boot, so I'll take it as a sign and install 9.1 when it comes, probably today. for now I'm just using knoppix.

 

by the way, if you don't have a copy of knoppix, you need one (or one of the other similar distros) runs likve from a CD and doesn't take much longer to boot than windows. it's great for showing linux to people AND it is great to have a back-up os just sitting there when you do something stupid.

I realy wanted to try it, but I wasn't able to download. I got a 404 going http and refused conection ftp

Wel, logicaly, I think it's bad idea for me to upgrade to 9.1, however, as anon so insightfully pointed out, I'm probably going to do it any way.

 

As for the update, broadband is not an option for me. not that i don't have the bread as it's only$10 or $15 a month more than dial-up, but it's just not available here. What should I do to get the updates? should I just go ahead an start withouth them and get them as soo as i'm up and running? whould i try and download certain ones and install maualy from a CD?? what do you think?

Yeah, that's knd of what I was thinking.

I'm just looking for some opinions here. And this is why I ask.

 

I am running 9.0 right now from the power-pac. Because I didn't think I could get my printer configured under 9.0, I ordered a set of .1 CD's from cheap bytes whitch should coume tommorrow. my deal is this. Everything works right now. (except my webcam, but it doesn't even work right uner windows) And I'm realy tempted to go with "if it aint broke, don't gfix it. But, boot up and shut down take about 5 times longer htan they should and the CD's are comming anyway, so it sseems like a waste to not go head and upgrade. "m not interested in dual booting 9.0 and 9.1 together, not only would it be pointlews but I've only hot a 14gig HDD.

 

So, with all that in mind, and the fact that i use dial-up internet whitch I understand is handled differently in 9.1, do you think I should upgrade, clean install, or just stick with 9.0??

 

title edited by Ixthusdan

As far as functional, I think checkinstall should be standard on every distro. As for entertaining/attractive, not so sure. I'd like to see some more screan savers.

Okay, here it is. if anybody else gets this printer, the problem is that it does not work with any of the mandrake hpijs drivers. NOt even the most recent updates. you need to manualy install hpijs1.4.1 NOT 1.4, but 1.4.1 whitch was just released yesterday, then it SUPER easy to setup with the CUPS www admin tool.

out of curiosity, what would you need to boost your sys proformance enough to use a more current distro? I just rebuilt my comp and I have a number of part I would part with for litle or nothing.

okay, the printer needs to be set-up WITHOUT goin through mcc or printerdrake.

 

THe command I was given to setup the printer now that the driver is installed is this:

 

 

foomatic-configure -n HPPSC1210 -s cups -c ptal://mlc:usb:psc_1200_series -p HP-PSC_1210 -d hpijs -o PageSize=A4

 

whitch returns this:

 

Cannot read file /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/printer/HP-PSC_1210.xml!Could not run "foomatic-combo-xml"/"foomatic-perl-data"! at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/Foomatic/DB.pm line 545.

 

 

 

I checked, and the file is not there. I am thinking that perhaps this is because I am using 9.0 and not 9.1

 

Could somebody please post a copy of /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/printer/HP-PSC_1210.xml from 9.1?? I'd realy appreciate it, or, should I try to update foomatic?

'# rpm -qa | grep libus'b returns the following

 

libusb0.1_4-0.1.6a-2mdk

libusb0.1_4-devel-0.1.6a-2mdk

 

 

I tried again, same problem. THis seems like it shouldn't be this hard. My understanding is that it works out of the box with RedHat 9.0 or newer. I'd have to switch distros over flipping printer. I rechecked the original post at mandrakeclub where the other info I posted first apearantly came from, and somebody else got it working with nothing else.

 

 

Also, I just realized, that if I delete the entire directory and CSV from scrath, the distclean doesn't work at first. But, if I try to configure and make once without it, then suddenly it works. what am I missing?

I tried make -d and here is all the debugging putput.

 

 

 

GNU Make version 3.79.1, by Richard Stallman and Roland McGrath.

Built for i586-mandrake-linux-gnu

Copyright © 1988, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 2000

Free Software Foundation, Inc.

This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.

There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A

PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

 

Report bugs to <bug-make@gnu.org>.

 

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File `all' does not exist.

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File `check_generated' does not exist.

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Putting child 0x08076480 (check_generated) PID 18476 on the chain.

Live child 0x08076480 (check_generated) PID 18476

Child access: user 0 (real 0), group 0 (real 0)

configure has been updated. Please re-run "./configure".

Makefile.in has been updated. Please re-run "./configure".

scripts/ptal-init.in has been updated. Please re-run "./configure".

scripts/ptal-cups.in has been updated. Please re-run "./configure".

lib/hpojip/Makefile.in has been updated. Please re-run "./configure".

lib/ptal/Makefile.in has been updated. Please re-run "./configure".

lib/sane/Makefile.in has been updated. Please re-run "./configure".

mlcd/Makefile.in has been updated. Please re-run "./configure".

apps/cmdline/Makefile.in has been updated. Please re-run "./configure".

apps/xojpanel/Makefile.in has been updated. Please re-run "./configure".

Got a SIGCHLD; 1 unreaped children.

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make: *** [check_generated] Error 1

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That's as far as I'm getting, I have no idea why the make is failing. I'd realy appreciate any help you can offer.

Okay, still having trouble, but it's getting better, sort of.

I have got libusbdevel installed and checkinstall is taken care of as well.

 

 

Here is EXACTLY what I'm doing.

 

 

cd /home/stephen/hpoj [enter]

 

 

cvs update 'enter'

 

? Makefile

? config.cache

? config.log

? config.status

? doc-pak

? apps/cmdline/Makefile

? apps/xojpanel/Makefile

? lib/hpojip/Makefile

? lib/ptal/Makefile

? lib/sane/Makefile

? mlcd/Makefile

? scripts/ptal-cups

? scripts/ptal-init

cvs server: Updating .

cvs server: Updating apps

cvs server: Updating apps/cmdline

cvs server: Updating apps/print

cvs server: Updating apps/xojpanel

cvs server: Updating doc

cvs server: Updating ieee12844

 

cvs server: Updating lib/ptal

cvs server: Updating lib/sane

cvs server: Updating mlcd

cvs server: Updating mlcd/transport

cvs server: Updating ojlib

cvs server: Updating ptal

cvs server: Updating scripts

 

make distclean 'enter'

 

 

 

make distclean

lib/hpojip

make[1]: Entering directory `/home/stephen/hpoj/lib/hpojip'

rm -f *.o *.o-shared *.so* libhpojip.so.0.1

rm -f Makefile

make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/stephen/hpoj/lib/hpojip'

lib/ptal

make[1]: Entering directory `/home/stephen/hpoj/lib/ptal'

rm -f *.o *.o-shared *.a *.so* libptal.so.0.1

rm -f Makefile

make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/stephen/hpoj/lib/ptal'

lib/sane

make[1]: Entering directory `/home/stephen/hpoj/lib/sane'

rm -f *.o *.o-shared *.a *.so* libsane-hpoj.so.1.0

rm -f Makefile

make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/stephen/hpoj/lib/sane'

mlcd

make[1]: Entering directory `/home/stephen/hpoj/mlcd'

rm -f ExMgr.o ParPort.o transport/ExTransport.o transport/ExMlcTransport.o transport/ExMlcCommandChannel.o  ptal-mlcd

rm -f Makefile

make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/stephen/hpoj/mlcd'

apps/cmdline

make[1]: Entering directory `/home/stephen/hpoj/apps/cmdline'

rm -f ptal-connect ptal-print ptal-printd ptal-device ptal-devid ptal-pml ptal-hp ptal-photod hpojip-test

rm -f Makefile

make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/stephen/hpoj/apps/cmdline'

apps/xojpanel

make[1]: Entering directory `/home/stephen/hpoj/apps/xojpanel'

rm -f xojpanel.o xojpanel-moc.o xojpanel-moc.cpp xojpanel

rm -f Makefile

make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/stephen/hpoj/apps/xojpanel'

 

 

 ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc

 

 

Configuration done.  Created Makefiles using the following substitutions:

bash: Configuration: command not found

[root@office hpoj]#   SUBDIRS               = lib/hpojip lib/ptal lib/sane mlcd apps/cmdline apps/xojpanel

bash: SUBDIRS: command not found

[root@office hpoj]#   bindir_program        = apps/cmdline/ptal-connect apps/cmdline/ptal-device apps/cmdline/ptal-devid apps/cmdline/ptal-pml apps/cmdline/ptal-hp apps/cmdline/hpojip-test apps/xojpanel/xojpanel

bash: bindir_program: command not found

[root@office hpoj]#   sbindir_program       = mlcd/ptal-mlcd apps/cmdline/ptal-printd apps/cmdline/ptal-photod scripts/ptal-init scripts/ptal-cups

bash: sbindir_program: command not found

[root@office hpoj]#   includedir_data       = include/hpojip.h include/ptal.h

bash: includedir_data: command not found

[root@office hpoj]#   VAR_RUN_PREFIX_CFLAGS = -DVAR_RUN_PREFIX=""/var/run""

bash: VAR_RUN_PREFIX_CFLAGS: command not found

[root@office hpoj]#   PAR_PLATFORM          = LINUX

bash: PAR_PLATFORM: command not found

[root@office hpoj]#   USB_PLATFORM          = LINUX

bash: USB_PLATFORM: command not found

[root@office hpoj]#   MLCD_OBJS

[root@office hpoj]# ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc

loading cache ./config.cache

checking for gcc... (cached) gcc

checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... yes

checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) is a cross-compiler... no

checking whether we are using GNU C... (cached) yes

checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes

checking for c++... (cached) g++

checking whether the C++ compiler (g++  ) works... yes

checking whether the C++ compiler (g++  ) is a cross-compiler... no

checking whether we are using GNU C++... (cached) yes

checking whether g++ accepts -g... (cached) yes

checking how to run the C preprocessor... (cached) gcc -E

checking for a BSD compatible install... (cached) /usr/bin/install -c

checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes

checking for user-mode parallel-port support... LINUX

checking for ability to include <sys/io.h> in C++ code... yes

checking for libusb... yes

checking for user-mode USB support... LINUX

checking for snmp.h... no: try "./configure --with-snmp=<dir>"

*** Disabling full JetDirect support due to lack of SNMP ***

checking for CUPS backend directory... /usr/lib/cups/backend

checking for SANE backend directory... /usr/lib/sane

checking for SANE configuration files... /etc/sane.d

checking for QT... /usr/lib/qt3

checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... (cached) g++ -E

checking for arpa/inet.h... (cached) yes

checking for ctype.h... (cached) yes

checking for errno.h... (cached) yes

checking for fcntl.h... (cached) yes

checking for grp.h... (cached) yes

checking for netdb.h... (cached) yes

checking for netinet/in.h... (cached) yes

checking for pwd.h... (cached) yes

checking for signal.h... (cached) yes

checking for stdarg.h... (cached) yes

checking for stdio.h... (cached) yes

checking for stdlib.h... (cached) yes

checking for string.h... (cached) yes

checking for sys/ioctl.h... (cached) yes

checking for sys/socket.h... (cached) yes

checking for sys/stat.h... (cached) yes

checking for sys/time.h... (cached) yes

checking for sys/types.h... (cached) yes

checking for sys/un.h... (cached) yes

checking for unistd.h... (cached) yes

creating ./config.status

creating Makefile

creating lib/hpojip/Makefile

creating lib/ptal/Makefile

creating lib/sane/Makefile

creating mlcd/Makefile

creating apps/cmdline/Makefile

creating apps/xojpanel/Makefile

creating scripts/ptal-cups

creating scripts/ptal-init

 

=========================================================================

Configuration done.  Created Makefiles using the following substitutions:

 SUBDIRS               = lib/hpojip lib/ptal lib/sane mlcd apps/cmdline apps/xojpanel

 bindir_program        = apps/cmdline/ptal-connect apps/cmdline/ptal-device apps/cmdline/ptal-devid apps/cmdline/ptal-pml apps/cmdline/ptal-hp apps/cmdline/hpojip-test apps/xojpanel/xojpanel

 sbindir_program       = mlcd/ptal-mlcd apps/cmdline/ptal-printd apps/cmdline/ptal-photod scripts/ptal-init scripts/ptal-cups

 includedir_data       = include/hpojip.h include/ptal.h

 VAR_RUN_PREFIX_CFLAGS = -DVAR_RUN_PREFIX=""/var/run""

 PAR_PLATFORM          = LINUX

 USB_PLATFORM          = LINUX

 MLCD_OBJS             =  ParPort.o

 MLCD_CFLAGS           =  -DHAVE_LIBUSB

 MLCD_LFLAGS           =  -lusb

 DEFINES_CMDLINE       =

 INCLUDE_CMDLINE       = -I/home/stephen/hpoj/include -I/usr/lib/qt3/include

 LIBRARY_CMDLINE       = -L/home/stephen/hpoj/lib/hpojip -L/home/stephen/hpoj/lib/ptal -L/home/stephen/hpoj/lib/sane -L/usr/lib/qt3/lib

 LIBSNMP_CMDLINE       =

 CUPS_BACKEND_DIR      = /usr/lib/cups/backend

 SANE_BACKEND_DIR      = /usr/lib/sane

 SANE_ETC_DIR          = /etc/sane.d

 LIBQT_CMDLINE         = -lqt-mt

 QT_MOC                = /usr/lib/qt3/bin/moc

 

Type "make" to create the binaries.

Then type "make install" to install under "/usr".

(You may need to use "gmake" instead of "make" on *BSD.)

 

 make 'enter'

 

 configure has been updated.  Please re-run "./configure".

Makefile.in has been updated.  Please re-run "./configure".

scripts/ptal-init.in has been updated.  Please re-run "./configure".

scripts/ptal-cups.in has been updated.  Please re-run "./configure".

lib/hpojip/Makefile.in has been updated.  Please re-run "./configure".

lib/ptal/Makefile.in has been updated.  Please re-run "./configure".

lib/sane/Makefile.in has been updated.  Please re-run "./configure".

mlcd/Makefile.in has been updated.  Please re-run "./configure".

apps/cmdline/Makefile.in has been updated.  Please re-run "./configure".

apps/xojpanel/Makefile.in has been updated.  Please re-run "./configure".

make: *** [check_generated] Error 1

okay, looks like distclean works now, I'll elt you know how it all goes.

Wow, I was pleasantly surprized to find a number of mirors here in Oregon, too bad contrib doesn't get any closer than new mexico, oh well.

Thanks, and thank you for not treating me like an idiot, even though I obviously appear to be one......

nope. Don't know how to get one either. Did I mention I've only ben using linux for about 2 months?

Oh, and once you get it where recognized, you have two oprions for how to get a link on your desktop.

 

easyway: browse to /mnt/ and drag the mount point folder for your hard drive (probably /mnt/hdb1) to you desktop and inthe menu that pops up, select "link here"

 

 

Right way. right click on the desktop, select "new" then harddisk. in the last tab, select the appropriate device and set your permissions. Depending on how youhave your permissions set, you may need to be root to set the permissions the way you want them. If you want, though it's a bad idea to log in as root ever, you 'can' log into X as root at boot up and browse to /home/'you'/Desktop and create it the same way as root, then for sure you can set the permissions however you want them. of course, logging in as root can be dangerous if your not carefull, and many people will tell you to NEVER do it. I'll tell you not to do it unless you are prepared for the consequences of doing the wrong thing and fubar-ing your system.

Easy way:

1. Open up the Mandrake control center

2. Click mount points

3. click "hard drives"

4. click the tab for you second drive, (porbably hdb) and use the tools there to select the mount point.

5. click done, and be sure you don't tell it to format anything, unless you want to.

 

 

Right way: (easier if you know what he heck you're doing)

 

1. from terminal, cd to /etc/

2. vi fstab

3. make all the apprepriate changes to your fstab acourding to what block device your harddrive is and what options you want.

4. press 'esc' key

5 enter :wq and press enter

Okay, I realized I didn't install the checkinstall package so I tried "urpmi checkinstall" and got this:

 

 

 urpmi checkinstall

To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed (0 MB):

checkinstall-1.5.3-1mdk.noarch

libcheckinstall1-1.5.3-1mdk.noarch

Is this OK? (Y/n) y

package checkinstall-1.5.3-1mdk.noarch is not found.

package libcheckinstall1-1.5.3-1mdk.noarch is not found.

unable to get source packages, aborting

 

So, what do I need to do for checkinstall?

 

 

:banghead:

Okay, I found these rambling out of order instructions. Most of whitch do not work. HT biggest problem is that it's from a funk printer forum, that is realy set up badly so it's allout of order and it's hard for me (not understanding most of it) to figure out what is what and what needs to be done in what order, if somebody could translate all the garbage into a simple set of commands, I'd realy appreciate it.

 

 

I have REALLY forgotten the very most important thing. Sorry. You need

to install libusb-devel before you compile HPOJ:

 

 

 

cd [directory with HPOJ source]

urpmi libusb-devel

 

make distclean

 

../configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc

 

make

 

checkinstall

 

service hpoj restart

 

ptal-init setup

 

service cups restart

 

 

 

When you do "ptal-init setup" remove the old configuration and let the

device get re-configured. Remove and reconfigure also your print queue.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

   Till

 

aunger wrote:

> I copied this from another forum.  I hope this helps. I was able to get it

> up and running using

> these instructions.

>

> One note, you must install libusb-devel prior to compiling hpoj from cvs

> and I would

> recommend updating the driver to atleast 1.3.1.

>

> One note to using the CVS of HPOJ: Uninstall the HPOJ packages of Mandrake

> Linux at first:

>    

> rpm -e --nodeps libptal0 libhpojip0 libsane-hpoj0 hpoj xojpanel

>

> Install the "checkinstall" package with

>    

> urpmi checkinstall

>    

> When calling "checkinstall" in the next steps, you are asked some stuff,

> always press Enter  

> to choose the defaults. As package type choose "R" for RPM.

>    

> If you have already downloaded and compiled it, remove the old compilation

> and installation  

> with

>    

> cd

> checkinstall  

> rpm -e hpoj

> make distclean  

>

> The "checkinstall" repeats the installation of you self-compiled HPOJ, but

> makes an RPM for

> exactly this installation and repeats the installation with that RPM, so

> the installation gets

> registered in the RPM database and so the "rpm -e hpoj" removes your

> installation cleanly.

> The "make distclean" removes all compiled files from the source tree, so

> that you can

> recompile with a different configuration.

>

> If you didn?t download and compile the CVS yet, download the CVS now and

> change into its

> main directory.

>

> Compile and install the package with

>

> /configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc

> make

> checkinstall

>

> Now do not use printerdrake to continue, as printerdrake automatically

> installs the Mandrake

> package of HPOJ.

>

> Remove your old print queue with

>

> lpadmin -x

>

> the web interface of CUPS (http://localhost:631/), or the KDE Printing

> Manager (in KDE

> Control Center, "Peripherals" section).

>

> Configure HPOJ:

>

> ptal-init setup

>

> Follow the instructions on the screen. After having done so, restart CUPS

>

> service cups restart

>

> and list the devices with "lpinfo -v". There should be a "ptal:..."

> device.

>

> Enter

>

> foomatic-configure -n HPPSC1210 -s cups -c ptal:... -p HP-PSC_1210 -d

> hpijs -o

> PageSize=A4

>

> to set up the print queue. Use the full "ptal:..." expression of the

> "lpinfo -v" output, not just

> "ptal:...". You can also use the web interface of CUPS or the KDE Printing

> Manager to set up

> the print queue.

>

> Check /etc/sane.d/dll.conf whether there is a line containing only "hpoj"

> and add the line if it is

> missing. Then you should be able to scan.

>

>  

>

> Dietmar wrote:  

>

>  

>>Tim Bray wrote:

>  

>

>  

>>>Dietmar wrote:

>>>

>>>>OK, i give up ;-((

>>>>  

>>>>i really need some help. first i would be glad, if anyone could tell me

>>>>exactly what to do for getting my printer just printing, like which

>

> driver  

>

>>>>/ modules are nessecary and how have i tell linux to install / invoke  

>>>>them. I read a lot of things and after all I am getting the more and

>  

> more

>

>>>>confused.

>  

>

>  

>>>Have you put in your printer device as a (I think) ptal: url in cups,

>>>rather than a usb: url ?  

>

>  

>

 

 

first I downloaded the CVS for hpoj, then did a urpmi install of the libUSB deleoper package, and proceeded with this bit:

 

make distclean

 

../configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc

 

make

 

checkinstall

 

service hpoj restart

 

ptal-init setup

 

service cups restart

 

 

first, "distclean" doesn't apear to be a real command, so I tried skipping that step and then tried using "make clean"

 

"../configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc" didn't work either, so I removed one of the " . " at the begining and it worked without errors.

 

Then make failed witht he following error.

 

configure has been updated.  Please re-run "./configure".

Makefile.in has been updated.  Please re-run "./configure".

scripts/ptal-init.in has been updated.  Please re-run "./configure".

scripts/ptal-cups.in has been updated.  Please re-run "./configure".

lib/hpojip/Makefile.in has been updated.  Please re-run "./configure".

lib/ptal/Makefile.in has been updated.  Please re-run "./configure".

lib/sane/Makefile.in has been updated.  Please re-run "./configure".

mlcd/Makefile.in has been updated.  Please re-run "./configure".

apps/cmdline/Makefile.in has been updated.  Please re-run "./configure".

apps/xojpanel/Makefile.in has been updated.  Please re-run "./configure".

make: *** [check_generated] Error 1

 

So I tried re-running the configure command that I used first, and that ended up with the same results, so then I tried just doing ./configure with no extensions, guess what, same error

 

I didn't get any farther. Any more help appreciated.

I will try it again without replacing libUSB. IT amazes me more people don't use this printer. It's a combination printer scanner copier. IT's smal, it's only $99, and the image quality from scans AND prints is just fantastic.

Don't know about the first two, but the printer you listed is the one I had untill a few days ago. I never found a way to make it not suck. You might check out linuxprinting.org and see if there's any tips there, but it was slow as all get out for me.

I went to www.linuxprinting.org and found this: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer....num=HP-PSC_1200

 

based on wha I saw there, I downloaded the source for libUSB, untar'd it and did a ./configure, make, makeinstall

 

Then I followed the link for the newest hpoj and fololowed the directions there for updating by CVS, then made and installed the same way.

 

Then I followed the link to the hpijs homepage and followed the directions ther for installing the latest version of that. When I did a regular configure, I got an error when it tried to reinstall foomatic. What i configured with the nofoomatic option, it installed fine, but I still couldn't get the printer to work, AND, when I rebooted, X would not fully load. I even did a "update install" of mandrake to try and get everything back, but it did n't work, so i'm stuck booting off my knoppix CD untill I get my data backed up so I can reformat and reinstall.

 

 

ANy sugestion as to what went wrong or how I can fix it would be REALy appreciated. I would realy like to be able to use this printer.

 

Oh, and I know that it is capable of printing, because the photocopy function works just fine.

I think I have it. It's a fairly new printer, and it apears that it only works with an updated libUSB and the latest CVS version of the HPOJ driver.