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But does it also have the same repo´s/rpms as yum does?
Yes, cause the repositorys in general are fedora specific, you can use which ever ones you want, I just use fresh/dries.
Its just a quicker package manager, and some features that aren't in yum
fast parallel downloading mechanism
Autobalancing Mirror System
Priority Handling
Removable Media Support
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I´m sorry, I only been using Fedora for 3 weeks, if I don´t get it. But what would the advantage be over yum?
Its quicker and has a nice gui if you want it.
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Smart's turn
First I'll clean up the cruft
# smart clean Removing cached package files...
Install time
# time smart install -y xmms\* Loading cache... Updating cache... ######################################## [100%] Computing transaction... Fetching packages... -> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/.../xmms-flac-1.1.2-26.fc5.i386.rpm -> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/.../xmms-acme-0.4.3-5.fc5.i386.rpm xmms-acme-0.4.3-5.fc5.i386.rpm ######################################## [ 2%] xmms-flac-1.1.2-26.fc5.i386.rpm ######################################## [ 5%] -> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/.../xmms-skins-1.2.10-15.noarch.rpm -> http://apt.sw.be/dries/fedora/fc5/.../xmms-itouch-0.1.2-5.fc5.rf.i386.rpm xmms-itouch-0.1.2-5.fc5.rf.i3.. ######################################## [ 8%] -> http://apt.sw.be/dries/.../xmms-infopipe-debuginfo-1.3-2.2.fc5.rf.i386.rpm xmms-infopipe-debuginfo-1.3-2.. ######################################## [ 11%] -> http://apt.sw.be/dries/fedora/fc5/.../xmms-mp3-1.2.10-16.fc5.rf.i386.rpm xmms-mp3-1.2.10-16.fc5.rf.i38.. ######################################## [ 13%] -> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/.../xmms-scrobbler-0.3.8-1.fc5.i386.rpm xmms-scrobbler-0.3.8-1.fc5.i3.. ######################################## [ 16%] -> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/.../xmms-xosd-2.2.14-6.fc5.i386.rpm xmms-xosd-2.2.14-6.fc5.i386.rpm ######################################## [ 19%] -> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/.../xmms-sid-0.8.0-0.1.beta15.fc5.i386.rpm xmms-sid-0.8.0-0.1.beta15.fc5.. ######################################## [ 22%] -> http://apt.sw.be/dries/.../xmms-mp3-debuginfo-1.2.10-16.fc5.rf.i386.rpm xmms-mp3-debuginfo-1.2.10-16... ######################################## [ 25%] -> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/.../xmms-arts-0.7.1-2.i386.rpm xmms-arts-0.7.1-2.i386.rpm ######################################## [ 27%] -> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/.../xmms-1.2.10-23.fc5.i386.rpm -> http://apt.sw.be/dries/fedora/fc5/.../xmms-shn-2.4.0-1.2.fc5.rf.i386.rpm xmms-shn-2.4.0-1.2.fc5.rf.i38.. ######################################## [ 30%] -> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/.../xmms-crossfade-0.3.10-1.fc5.i386.rpm xmms-crossfade-0.3.10-1.fc5.i.. ######################################## [ 33%] -> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/.../xmms-lirc-1.4-7.fc5.i386.rpm xmms-lirc-1.4-7.fc5.i386.rpm ######################################## [ 36%] -> http://apt.sw.be/dries/.../xmms-acme-debuginfo-0.4.2-1.fc5.rf.i386.rpm xmms-acme-debuginfo-0.4.2-1.f.. ######################################## [ 38%] -> http://apt.sw.be/.../xmms-goodnight-debuginfo-0.3.2-0.2.fc5.rf.i386.rpm xmms-goodnight-debuginfo-0.3... ######################################## [ 41%] -> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/.../xmms-alarm-0.3.7-4.fc5.i386.rpm xmms-alarm-0.3.7-4.fc5.i386.rpm ######################################## [ 44%] -> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/.../xmms-modplug-2.05-6.fc5.i386.rpm xmms-modplug-2.05-6.fc5.i386... ######################################## [ 47%] -> http://apt.sw.be/dries/.../xmms-shn-debuginfo-2.4.0-1.2.fc5.rf.i386.rpm xmms-shn-debuginfo-2.4.0-1.2... ######################################## [ 50%] -> http://apt.sw.be/dries/fedora/fc5/.../xmms-infopipe-1.3-2.2.fc5.rf.i386.rpm xmms-infopipe-1.3-2.2.fc5.rf... ######################################## [ 52%] -> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/.../xmms-devel-1.2.10-23.fc5.i386.rpm xmms-devel-1.2.10-23.fc5.i386.. ######################################## [ 55%] -> http://apt.sw.be/dries/.../xmms-itouch-debuginfo-0.1.2-5.fc5.rf.i386.rpm xmms-itouch-debuginfo-0.1.2-5.. ######################################## [ 58%] -> http://apt.sw.be/dries/.../xmms-alarm-debuginfo-0.3.7-1.2.fc5.rf.i386.rpm xmms-alarm-debuginfo-0.3.7-1... ######################################## [ 61%] -> http://apt.sw.be/dries/fedora/fc5/.../xmms-musepack-1.2-2.1.fc5.rf.i386.rpm xmms-musepack-1.2-2.1.fc5.rf... ######################################## [ 63%] -> http://apt.sw.be/dries/fedora/.../xmms-goodnight-0.3.2-0.2.fc5.rf.i386.rpm xmms-goodnight-0.3.2-0.2.fc5... ######################################## [ 66%] -> http://apt.sw.be/dries/fedora/fc5/i386/.../xmms-aac-2.0-8.fc5.rf.i386.rpm xmms-aac-2.0-8.fc5.rf.i386.rpm ######################################## [ 69%] -> http://apt.sw.be/dries/fedora/fc5/i386/.../xmms-wma-1.0.5-3.fc5.rf.i386.rpm xmms-wma-1.0.5-3.fc5.rf.i386... ######################################## [ 72%] -> http://apt.sw.be/.../xmms-gtk-playlist-debuginfo-2.0-0.2.fc5.rf.i386.rpm xmms-gtk-playlist-debuginfo-2.. ######################################## [ 75%] -> http://apt.sw.be/dries/fedora/.../xmms-gtk-playlist-2.0-0.2.fc5.rf.i386.rpm xmms-gtk-playlist-2.0-0.2.fc5.. ######################################## [ 77%] -> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/.../xmms-cdread-0.14-11.fc5.i386.rpm xmms-cdread-0.14-11.fc5.i386... ######################################## [ 80%] -> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/.../xmms-speex-0.9.1-5.i386.rpm xmms-speex-0.9.1-5.i386.rpm ######################################## [ 83%] -> http://apt.sw.be/dries/.../xmms-modplug-debuginfo-2.05-1.2.fc5.rf.i386.rpm xmms-1.2.10-23.fc5.i386.rpm ######################################## [ 86%] xmms-modplug-debuginfo-2.05-1.. ######################################## [ 88%] -> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/.../xmms-libs-1.2.10-23.fc5.i386.rpm -> http://apt.sw.be/dries/fedora/.../xmms-wma-debuginfo-1.0.5-3.fc5.rf.i386.rpm xmms-wma-debuginfo-1.0.5-3.fc.. ######################################## [ 91%] xmms-libs-1.2.10-23.fc5.i386... ######################################## [ 94%] xmms-skins-1.2.10-15.noarch.rpm ######################################## [ 97%] -> http://apt.sw.be/dries/.../xmms-musepack-debuginfo-1.2-2.1.fc5.rf.i386.rpm xmms-musepack-debuginfo-1.2-2.. ######################################## [100%] Committing transaction... Preparing... ######################################## [ 0%] 1:Installing xmms-shn-debu.. ######################################## [ 2%] 2:Installing xmms-modplug-.. ######################################## [ 5%] 3:Installing xmms-gtk-play.. ######################################## [ 8%] 4:Installing xmms-arts ######################################## [ 11%] 5:Installing xmms-acme-deb.. ######################################## [ 13%] 6:Installing xmms-musepack.. ######################################## [ 16%] 7:Installing xmms-infopipe.. ######################################## [ 19%] 8:Installing xmms-wma-debu.. ######################################## [ 22%] 9:Installing xmms-itouch-d.. ######################################## [ 25%] 10:Installing xmms-libs ######################################## [ 27%] 11:Installing xmms-mp3-debu.. ######################################## [ 30%] 12:Installing xmms-goodnigh.. ######################################## [ 33%] 13:Installing xmms-alarm-de.. ######################################## [ 36%] 14:Installing xmms-lirc ######################################## [ 38%] 15:Installing xmms ######################################## [ 41%] 16:Installing xmms-infopipe ######################################## [ 44%] 17:Installing xmms-wma ######################################## [ 47%] 18:Installing xmms-flac ######################################## [ 50%] 19:Installing xmms-devel ######################################## [ 52%] 20:Installing xmms-aac ######################################## [ 55%] 21:Installing xmms-cdread ######################################## [ 58%] 22:Installing xmms-goodnight ######################################## [ 61%] 23:Installing xmms-musepack ######################################## [ 63%] 24:Installing xmms-modplug ######################################## [ 66%] 25:Installing xmms-gtk-play.. ######################################## [ 69%] 26:Installing xmms-mp3 ######################################## [ 72%] 27:Installing xmms-sid ######################################## [ 75%] 28:Installing xmms-xosd ######################################## [ 77%] 29:Installing xmms-crossfade ######################################## [ 80%] 30:Installing xmms-alarm ######################################## [ 83%] 31:Installing xmms-shn ######################################## [ 86%] 32:Installing xmms-acme ######################################## [ 88%] 33:Installing xmms-skins ######################################## [ 91%] 34:Installing xmms-speex ######################################## [ 94%] 35:Installing xmms-itouch ######################################## [ 97%] 36:Installing xmms-scrobbler ######################################## [100%] Saving cache... real 1m8.960s user 0m13.325s sys 0m2.864s
1 minute, case you don't remember, yum = 5mins smart = 1min.........
lets remove it since I don't really use xmms all that often, just for this test. ;)
# time smart remove -y xmms\* Loading cache... Updating cache... ######################################## [100%] Computing transaction... Committing transaction... Preparing... ######################################## [ 0%] 1:Removing xmms-acme ######################################## [ 2%] 2:Removing xmms-modplug-de.. ######################################## [ 5%] 3:Removing xmms-itouch ######################################## [ 8%] 4:Removing xmms-devel ######################################## [ 11%] 5:Removing xmms-flac ######################################## [ 13%] 6:Removing xmms-xosd ######################################## [ 16%] 7:Removing xmms-musepack-d.. ######################################## [ 19%] 8:Removing xmms-gtk-playlist ######################################## [ 22%] 9:Removing xmms-wma ######################################## [ 25%] 10:Removing xmms-wma-debugi.. ######################################## [ 27%] 11:Removing xmms-lirc ######################################## [ 30%] 12:Removing xmms-musepack ######################################## [ 33%] 13:Removing xmms-infopipe-d.. ######################################## [ 36%] 14:Removing xmms-arts ######################################## [ 38%] 15:Removing xmms-infopipe ######################################## [ 41%] 16:Removing xmms-aac ######################################## [ 44%] 17:Removing xmms-sid ######################################## [ 47%] 18:Removing xmms-scrobbler ######################################## [ 50%] 19:Removing xmms-skins ######################################## [ 52%] 20:Removing xmms-goodnight ######################################## [ 55%] 21:Removing xmms-speex ######################################## [ 58%] 22:Removing xmms-mp3 ######################################## [ 61%] 23:Removing xmms-shn-debugi.. ######################################## [ 63%] 24:Removing xmms-mp3-debugi.. ######################################## [ 66%] 25:Removing xmms-cdread ######################################## [ 69%] 26:Removing xmms-crossfade ######################################## [ 72%] 27:Removing xmms-modplug ######################################## [ 75%] 28:Removing xmms-shn ######################################## [ 77%] 29:Removing xmms-acme-debug.. ######################################## [ 80%] 30:Removing xmms-alarm-debu.. ######################################## [ 83%] 31:Removing xmms-gtk-playli.. ######################################## [ 86%] 32:Removing xmms-alarm ######################################## [ 88%] 33:Removing xmms-itouch-deb.. ######################################## [ 91%] 34:Removing xmms-goodnight-.. ######################################## [ 94%] 35:Removing xmms ######################################## [ 97%] 36:Removing xmms-libs ######################################## [100%] Saving cache... real 0m49.959s user 0m12.653s sys 0m2.692s
Conclusion
I will be using smart from now on
Just for an FYI, the smart command line repositorys I didn't actually have to setup. I installed smart-gui too and when I opened it up, it went through yum and asked what repos i wanted to add (don't say yes to debug/source, unless you want them) then setup freshrpms and dries manually.
Edit > Channels > New > Provide Channel Info > RPM Metadata >
Base URL example for freshrpms
http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/5/i386/freshrpms/
Dries
http://apt.sw.be/dries/fedora/fc5/i386/dries/RPMS
BLAH BLAH BLAH!
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I've been playing around with smart/smart-gui more and more lately and thought I would to a small benchmark of it. I used XMMS\* because I figure it would give it a lot to install and download.
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.p...9104#post539104
First up Yum
Clean up yum so there isn't any left over cruft.
# yum clean all Cleaning up Everything 0 headers removed 0 packages removed 20 metadata files removed 0 cache files removed 6 cache files removed
Install all the xmms\* packages
# time yum --disable=*\debug\* -y install xmms\* Setting up Install Process Setting up repositories core [1/6] core 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 dries [2/6] dries 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00 rpmforge [3/6] rpmforge 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00 updates [4/6] updates 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00 freshrpms [5/6] freshrpms 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00 extras [6/6] http://mirror.clarkson.edu/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/extras/5/i386/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 14:52:55 GMT Content-Length: 348 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Server: Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat) Via: 1.1 CFVARESBXI2 (NetCache NetApp/5.5R6D1) Trying other mirror. extras 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 Reading repository metadata in from local files primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 767 kB 00:01 core : ################################################## 2207/2207 Added 2207 new packages, deleted 0 old in 21.26 seconds primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 661 kB 00:03 dries : ################################################## 2787/2787 Added 2787 new packages, deleted 0 old in 17.05 seconds primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 659 kB 00:26 rpmforge : ################################################## 2781/2781 Added 2781 new packages, deleted 0 old in 22.07 seconds primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 333 kB 00:01 updates : ################################################## 1017/1017 Added 1017 new packages, deleted 0 old in 12.05 seconds primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 55 kB 00:00 freshrpms : ################################################## 171/171 Added 171 new packages, deleted 0 old in 1.84 seconds primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 1.1 MB 00:02 extras : ################################################## 3285/3285 Added 3285 new packages, deleted 0 old in 30.32 seconds Parsing package install arguments Resolving Dependencies --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. ---> Downloading header for xmms-infopipe-debuginfo to pack into transaction set. xmms-infopipe-debuginfo-1 100% |=========================| 3.1 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-infopipe-debuginfo.i386 0:1.3-2.2.fc5.rf set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-sid to pack into transaction set. xmms-sid-0.8.0-0.1.beta15 100% |=========================| 4.6 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-sid.i386 0:0.8.0-0.1.beta15.fc5 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-shn-debuginfo to pack into transaction set. xmms-shn-debuginfo-2.4.0- 100% |=========================| 4.1 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-shn-debuginfo.i386 0:2.4.0-1.2.fc5.rf set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-acme-debuginfo to pack into transaction set. xmms-acme-debuginfo-0.4.2 100% |=========================| 2.7 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-acme-debuginfo.i386 0:0.4.2-1.fc5.rf set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-modplug to pack into transaction set. xmms-modplug-2.05-6.fc5.i 100% |=========================| 6.1 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-modplug.i386 0:2.05-6.fc5 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-lirc to pack into transaction set. xmms-lirc-1.4-7.fc5.i386. 100% |=========================| 3.8 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-lirc.i386 0:1.4-7.fc5 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-acme to pack into transaction set. xmms-acme-0.4.3-5.fc5.i38 100% |=========================| 3.6 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-acme.i386 0:0.4.3-5.fc5 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-crossfade to pack into transaction set. xmms-crossfade-0.3.10-1.f 100% |=========================| 3.9 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-crossfade.i386 0:0.3.10-1.fc5 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-itouch to pack into transaction set. xmms-itouch-0.1.2-5.fc5.r 100% |=========================| 3.5 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-itouch.i386 0:0.1.2-5.fc5.rf set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-xosd to pack into transaction set. xmms-xosd-2.2.14-6.fc5.i3 100% |=========================| 6.1 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-xosd.i386 0:2.2.14-6.fc5 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-modplug-debuginfo to pack into transaction set.xmms-modplug-debuginfo-2. 100% |=========================| 5.5 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-modplug-debuginfo.i386 0:2.05-1.2.fc5.rf set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-mp3 to pack into transaction set. xmms-mp3-1.2.10-16.fc5.rf 100% |=========================| 3.2 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-mp3.i386 1:1.2.10-16.fc5.rf set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-aac to pack into transaction set. xmms-aac-2.0-8.fc5.rf.i38 100% |=========================| 5.5 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-aac.i386 0:2.0-8.fc5.rf set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-goodnight-debuginfo to pack into transaction set. xmms-goodnight-debuginfo- 100% |=========================| 2.2 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-goodnight-debuginfo.i386 0:0.3.2-0.2.fc5.rf set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-alarm to pack into transaction set. xmms-alarm-0.3.7-4.fc5.i3 100% |=========================| 3.7 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-alarm.i386 0:0.3.7-4.fc5 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-libs to pack into transaction set. xmms-libs-1.2.10-23.fc5.i 100% |=========================| 10 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-libs.i386 1:1.2.10-23.fc5 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-musepack-debuginfo to pack into transaction set. xmms-musepack-debuginfo-1 100% |=========================| 3.9 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-musepack-debuginfo.i386 0:1.2-2.1.fc5.rf set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-infopipe to pack into transaction set. xmms-infopipe-1.3-2.2.fc5 100% |=========================| 3.7 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-infopipe.i386 0:1.3-2.2.fc5.rf set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-arts to pack into transaction set. xmms-arts-0.7.1-2.i386.rp 100% |=========================| 3.5 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-arts.i386 0:0.7.1-2 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-alarm-debuginfo to pack into transaction set. xmms-alarm-debuginfo-0.3. 100% |=========================| 2.5 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-alarm-debuginfo.i386 0:0.3.7-1.2.fc5.rf set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-flac to pack into transaction set. xmms-flac-1.1.2-26.fc5.i3 100% |=========================| 3.6 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-flac.i386 0:1.1.2-26.fc5 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-scrobbler to pack into transaction set. xmms-scrobbler-0.3.8-1.fc 100% |=========================| 3.7 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-scrobbler.i386 0:0.3.8-1.fc5 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-devel to pack into transaction set. xmms-devel-1.2.10-23.fc5. 100% |=========================| 7.9 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-devel.i386 1:1.2.10-23.fc5 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-gtk-playlist-debuginfo to pack into transaction set. xmms-gtk-playlist-debugin 100% |=========================| 3.7 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-gtk-playlist-debuginfo.i386 0:2.0-0.2.fc5.rf set to be updated---> Downloading header for xmms-itouch-debuginfo to pack into transaction set. xmms-itouch-debuginfo-0.1 100% |=========================| 2.7 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-itouch-debuginfo.i386 0:0.1.2-5.fc5.rf set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-wma to pack into transaction set. xmms-wma-1.0.5-3.fc5.rf.i 100% |=========================| 3.9 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-wma.i386 0:1.0.5-3.fc5.rf set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-gtk-playlist to pack into transaction set. xmms-gtk-playlist-2.0-0.2 100% |=========================| 3.4 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-gtk-playlist.i386 0:2.0-0.2.fc5.rf set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-skins to pack into transaction set. xmms-skins-1.2.10-13.i386 100% |=========================| 6.6 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-skins.i386 1:1.2.10-13 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-musepack to pack into transaction set. xmms-musepack-1.2-2.1.fc5 100% |=========================| 4.1 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-musepack.i386 0:1.2-2.1.fc5.rf set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms to pack into transaction set. xmms-1.2.10-23.fc5.i386.r 100% |=========================| 16 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms.i386 1:1.2.10-23.fc5 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-mp3-debuginfo to pack into transaction set. xmms-mp3-debuginfo-1.2.10 100% |=========================| 6.4 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-mp3-debuginfo.i386 1:1.2.10-16.fc5.rf set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-shn to pack into transaction set. xmms-shn-2.4.0-1.2.fc5.rf 100% |=========================| 3.5 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-shn.i386 0:2.4.0-1.2.fc5.rf set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-wma-debuginfo to pack into transaction set. xmms-wma-debuginfo-1.0.5- 100% |=========================| 5.6 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-wma-debuginfo.i386 0:1.0.5-3.fc5.rf set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-goodnight to pack into transaction set. xmms-goodnight-0.3.2-0.2. 100% |=========================| 2.8 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-goodnight.i386 0:0.3.2-0.2.fc5.rf set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-speex to pack into transaction set. xmms-speex-0.9.1-5.i386.r 100% |=========================| 2.9 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-speex.i386 0:0.9.1-5 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for xmms-cdread to pack into transaction set. xmms-cdread-0.14-11.fc5.i 100% |=========================| 4.4 kB 00:00 ---> Package xmms-cdread.i386 0:0.14-11.fc5 set to be updated --> Running transaction check Dependencies Resolved ============================================================================= Package Arch Version Repository Size ============================================================================= Installing: xmms i386 1:1.2.10-23.fc5 extras 1.6 M xmms-aac i386 2.0-8.fc5.rf rpmforge 15 k xmms-acme i386 0.4.3-5.fc5 extras 20 k xmms-acme-debuginfo i386 0.4.2-1.fc5.rf rpmforge 23 k xmms-alarm i386 0.3.7-4.fc5 extras 37 k xmms-alarm-debuginfo i386 0.3.7-1.2.fc5.rf rpmforge 6.5 k xmms-arts i386 0.7.1-2 extras 23 k xmms-cdread i386 0.14-11.fc5 extras 37 k xmms-crossfade i386 0.3.10-1.fc5 extras 115 k xmms-devel i386 1:1.2.10-23.fc5 extras 16 k xmms-flac i386 1.1.2-26.fc5 extras 59 k xmms-goodnight i386 0.3.2-0.2.fc5.rf rpmforge 21 k xmms-goodnight-debuginfo i386 0.3.2-0.2.fc5.rf rpmforge 5.7 k xmms-gtk-playlist i386 2.0-0.2.fc5.rf rpmforge 41 k xmms-gtk-playlist-debuginfo i386 2.0-0.2.fc5.rf rpmforge 97 k xmms-infopipe i386 1.3-2.2.fc5.rf rpmforge 22 k xmms-infopipe-debuginfo i386 1.3-2.2.fc5.rf rpmforge 15 k xmms-itouch i386 0.1.2-5.fc5.rf rpmforge 25 k xmms-itouch-debuginfo i386 0.1.2-5.fc5.rf rpmforge 25 k xmms-libs i386 1:1.2.10-23.fc5 extras 245 k xmms-lirc i386 1.4-7.fc5 extras 28 k xmms-modplug i386 2.05-6.fc5 extras 52 k xmms-modplug-debuginfo i386 2.05-1.2.fc5.rf rpmforge 199 k xmms-mp3 i386 1:1.2.10-16.fc5.rf rpmforge 87 k xmms-mp3-debuginfo i386 1:1.2.10-16.fc5.rf rpmforge 171 k xmms-musepack i386 1.2-2.1.fc5.rf rpmforge 22 k xmms-musepack-debuginfo i386 1.2-2.1.fc5.rf rpmforge 59 k xmms-scrobbler i386 0.3.8-1.fc5 extras 51 k xmms-shn i386 2.4.0-1.2.fc5.rf rpmforge 43 k xmms-shn-debuginfo i386 2.4.0-1.2.fc5.rf rpmforge 71 k xmms-sid i386 0.8.0-0.1.beta15.fc5 extras 103 k xmms-skins i386 1:1.2.10-13 extras 2.6 M xmms-speex i386 0.9.1-5 extras 34 k xmms-wma i386 1.0.5-3.fc5.rf rpmforge 79 k xmms-wma-debuginfo i386 1.0.5-3.fc5.rf rpmforge 223 k xmms-xosd i386 2.2.14-6.fc5 extras 19 k Transaction Summary ============================================================================= Install 36 Package(s) Update 0 Package(s) Remove 0 Package(s) Total download size: 6.3 M Downloading Packages: (1/36): xmms-infopipe-deb 100% |=========================| 15 kB 00:00 (2/36): xmms-sid-0.8.0-0. 100% |=========================| 103 kB 00:00 (3/36): xmms-shn-debuginf 100% |=========================| 71 kB 00:03 (4/36): xmms-acme-debugin 100% |=========================| 23 kB 00:00 (5/36): xmms-modplug-2.05 100% |=========================| 52 kB 00:00 (6/36): xmms-lirc-1.4-7.f 100% |=========================| 28 kB 00:00 (7/36): xmms-acme-0.4.3-5 100% |=========================| 20 kB 00:00 (8/36): xmms-crossfade-0. 100% |=========================| 115 kB 00:00 (9/36): xmms-itouch-0.1.2 100% |=========================| 25 kB 00:00 (10/36): xmms-xosd-2.2.14 100% |=========================| 19 kB 00:00 (11/36): xmms-modplug-deb 100% |=========================| 199 kB 00:08 (12/36): xmms-mp3-1.2.10- 100% |=========================| 87 kB 00:07 (13/36): xmms-aac-2.0-8.f 100% |=========================| 15 kB 00:00 (14/36): xmms-goodnight-d 100% |=========================| 5.7 kB 00:00 (15/36): xmms-alarm-0.3.7 100% |=========================| 37 kB 00:00 (16/36): xmms-libs-1.2.10 100% |=========================| 245 kB 00:00 (17/36): xmms-musepack-de 100% |=========================| 59 kB 00:02 (18/36): xmms-infopipe-1. 100% |=========================| 22 kB 00:00 (19/36): xmms-arts-0.7.1- 100% |=========================| 23 kB 00:00 (20/36): xmms-alarm-debug 100% |=========================| 6.5 kB 00:00 (21/36): xmms-flac-1.1.2- 100% |=========================| 59 kB 00:00 (22/36): xmms-scrobbler-0 100% |=========================| 51 kB 00:00 (23/36): xmms-devel-1.2.1 100% |=========================| 16 kB 00:00 (24/36): xmms-gtk-playlis 100% |=========================| 97 kB 00:04 (25/36): xmms-itouch-debu 100% |=========================| 25 kB 00:02 (26/36): xmms-wma-1.0.5-3 100% |=========================| 79 kB 00:03 (27/36): xmms-gtk-playlis 100% |=========================| 41 kB 00:01 (28/36): xmms-skins-1.2.1 100% |=========================| 2.6 MB 00:04 (29/36): xmms-musepack-1. 100% |=========================| 22 kB 00:00 (30/36): xmms-1.2.10-23.f 100% |=========================| 1.6 MB 00:03 (31/36): xmms-mp3-debugin 100% |=========================| 171 kB 00:07 (32/36): xmms-shn-2.4.0-1 100% |=========================| 43 kB 00:01 (33/36): xmms-wma-debugin 100% |=========================| 223 kB 00:07 (34/36): xmms-goodnight-0 100% |=========================| 21 kB 00:00 (35/36): xmms-speex-0.9.1 100% |=========================| 34 kB 00:00 (36/36): xmms-cdread-0.14 100% |=========================| 37 kB 00:00 Running Transaction Test Finished Transaction Test Transaction Test Succeeded Running Transaction Installing: xmms-libs ####################### [ 1/36] Installing: xmms ####################### [ 2/36] Installing: xmms-infopipe-debuginfo ####################### [ 3/36] Installing: xmms-sid ####################### [ 4/36] Installing: xmms-shn-debuginfo ####################### [ 5/36] Installing: xmms-acme-debuginfo ####################### [ 6/36] Installing: xmms-modplug ####################### [ 7/36] Installing: xmms-lirc ####################### [ 8/36] Installing: xmms-acme ####################### [ 9/36] Installing: xmms-crossfade ####################### [10/36] Installing: xmms-itouch ####################### [11/36] Installing: xmms-xosd ####################### [12/36] Installing: xmms-modplug-debuginfo ####################### [13/36] Installing: xmms-mp3 ####################### [14/36] Installing: xmms-aac ####################### [15/36] Installing: xmms-goodnight-debuginfo ####################### [16/36] Installing: xmms-alarm ####################### [17/36] Installing: xmms-musepack-debuginfo ####################### [18/36] Installing: xmms-infopipe ####################### [19/36] Installing: xmms-arts ####################### [20/36] Installing: xmms-alarm-debuginfo ####################### [21/36] Installing: xmms-flac ####################### [22/36] Installing: xmms-scrobbler ####################### [23/36] Installing: xmms-devel ####################### [24/36] Installing: xmms-gtk-playlist-debuginfo ####################### [25/36] Installing: xmms-itouch-debuginfo ####################### [26/36] Installing: xmms-wma ####################### [27/36] Installing: xmms-gtk-playlist ####################### [28/36] Installing: xmms-skins ####################### [29/36] Installing: xmms-musepack ####################### [30/36] Installing: xmms-mp3-debuginfo ####################### [31/36] Installing: xmms-shn ####################### [32/36] Installing: xmms-wma-debuginfo ####################### [33/36] Installing: xmms-goodnight ####################### [34/36] Installing: xmms-speex ####################### [35/36] Installing: xmms-cdread ####################### [36/36] Installed: xmms.i386 1:1.2.10-23.fc5 xmms-aac.i386 0:2.0-8.fc5.rf xmms-acme.i386 0:0.4.3-5.fc5 xmms-acme-debuginfo.i386 0:0.4.2-1.fc5.rf xmms-alarm.i386 0:0.3.7-4.fc5 xmms-alarm-debuginfo.i386 0:0.3.7-1.2.fc5.rf xmms-arts.i386 0:0.7.1-2 xmms-cdread.i386 0:0.14-11.fc5 xmms-crossfade.i386 0:0.3.10-1.fc5 xmms-devel.i386 1:1.2.10-23.fc5 xmms-flac.i386 0:1.1.2-26.fc5 xmms-goodnight.i386 0:0.3.2-0.2.fc5.rf xmms-goodnight-debuginfo.i386 0:0.3.2-0.2.fc5.rf xmms-gtk-playlist.i386 0:2.0-0.2.fc5.rf xmms-gtk-playlist-debuginfo.i386 0:2.0-0.2.fc5.rf xmms-infopipe.i386 0:1.3-2.2.fc5.rf xmms-infopipe-debuginfo.i386 0:1.3-2.2.fc5.rf xmms-itouch.i386 0:0.1.2-5.fc5.rf xmms-itouch-debuginfo.i386 0:0.1.2-5.fc5.rf xmms-libs.i386 1:1.2.10-23.fc5 xmms-lirc.i386 0:1.4-7.fc5 xmms-modplug.i386 0:2.05-6.fc5 xmms-modplug-debuginfo.i386 0:2.05-1.2.fc5.rf xmms-mp3.i386 1:1.2.10-16.fc5.rf xmms-mp3-debuginfo.i386 1:1.2.10-16.fc5.rf xmms-musepack.i386 0:1.2-2.1.fc5.rf xmms-musepack-debuginfo.i386 0:1.2-2.1.fc5.rf xmms-scrobbler.i386 0:0.3.8-1.fc5 xmms-shn.i386 0:2.4.0-1.2.fc5.rf xmms-shn-debuginfo.i386 0:2.4.0-1.2.fc5.rf xmms-sid.i386 0:0.8.0-0.1.beta15.fc5 xmms-skins.i386 1:1.2.10-13 xmms-speex.i386 0:0.9.1-5 xmms-wma.i386 0:1.0.5-3.fc5.rf xmms-wma-debuginfo.i386 0:1.0.5-3.fc5.rf xmms-xosd.i386 0:2.2.14-6.fc5 Complete! real 5m11.256s user 1m7.444s sys 0m3.272s
Ok, so we have 5 minutes and a bunch of output to install everything.
Lets remove the pacakges now so we can test smart
# time yum -y remove xmms\* Setting up Remove Process Resolving Dependencies --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. ---> Package xmms-infopipe-debuginfo.i386 0:1.3-2.2.fc5.rf set to be erased ---> Package xmms-sid.i386 0:0.8.0-0.1.beta15.fc5 set to be erased ---> Package xmms-shn-debuginfo.i386 0:2.4.0-1.2.fc5.rf set to be erased ---> Package xmms-acme-debuginfo.i386 0:0.4.2-1.fc5.rf set to be erased ---> Package xmms-modplug.i386 0:2.05-6.fc5 set to be erased ---> Package xmms-lirc.i386 0:1.4-7.fc5 set to be erased ---> Package xmms-acme.i386 0:0.4.3-5.fc5 set to be erased ---> Package xmms-crossfade.i386 0:0.3.10-1.fc5 set to be erased ---> Package xmms-itouch.i386 0:0.1.2-5.fc5.rf set to be erased ---> Package xmms-xosd.i386 0:2.2.14-6.fc5 set to be erased ---> Package xmms-modplug-debuginfo.i386 0:2.05-1.2.fc5.rf set to be erased ---> Package xmms-mp3.i386 1:1.2.10-16.fc5.rf set to be erased ---> Package xmms-aac.i386 0:2.0-8.fc5.rf set to be erased ---> Package xmms-goodnight.i386 0:0.3.2-0.2.fc5.rf set to be erased ---> Package xmms-alarm.i386 0:0.3.7-4.fc5 set to be erased ---> Package xmms-libs.i386 1:1.2.10-23.fc5 set to be erased ---> Package xmms-musepack-debuginfo.i386 0:1.2-2.1.fc5.rf set to be erased ---> Package xmms-infopipe.i386 0:1.3-2.2.fc5.rf set to be erased ---> Package xmms-arts.i386 0:0.7.1-2 set to be erased ---> Package xmms-wma-debuginfo.i386 0:1.0.5-3.fc5.rf set to be erased ---> Package xmms-itouch-debuginfo.i386 0:0.1.2-5.fc5.rf set to be erased ---> Package xmms-scrobbler.i386 0:0.3.8-1.fc5 set to be erased ---> Package xmms-devel.i386 1:1.2.10-23.fc5 set to be erased ---> Package xmms-gtk-playlist-debuginfo.i386 0:2.0-0.2.fc5.rf set to be erased ---> Package xmms-flac.i386 0:1.1.2-26.fc5 set to be erased ---> Package xmms-wma.i386 0:1.0.5-3.fc5.rf set to be erased ---> Package xmms-gtk-playlist.i386 0:2.0-0.2.fc5.rf set to be erased ---> Package xmms-skins.i386 1:1.2.10-13 set to be erased ---> Package xmms-musepack.i386 0:1.2-2.1.fc5.rf set to be erased ---> Package xmms.i386 1:1.2.10-23.fc5 set to be erased ---> Package xmms-mp3-debuginfo.i386 1:1.2.10-16.fc5.rf set to be erased ---> Package xmms-shn.i386 0:2.4.0-1.2.fc5.rf set to be erased ---> Package xmms-alarm-debuginfo.i386 0:0.3.7-1.2.fc5.rf set to be erased ---> Package xmms-goodnight-debuginfo.i386 0:0.3.2-0.2.fc5.rf set to be erased ---> Package xmms-speex.i386 0:0.9.1-5 set to be erased ---> Package xmms-cdread.i386 0:0.14-11.fc5 set to be erased --> Running transaction check Dependencies Resolved ============================================================================= Package Arch Version Repository Size ============================================================================= Removing: xmms i386 1:1.2.10-23.fc5 installed 4.5 M xmms-aac i386 2.0-8.fc5.rf installed 18 k xmms-acme i386 0.4.3-5.fc5 installed 38 k xmms-acme-debuginfo i386 0.4.2-1.fc5.rf installed 50 k xmms-alarm i386 0.3.7-4.fc5 installed 89 k xmms-alarm-debuginfo i386 0.3.7-1.2.fc5.rf installed 9.4 k xmms-arts i386 0.7.1-2 installed 44 k xmms-cdread i386 0.14-11.fc5 installed 73 k xmms-crossfade i386 0.3.10-1.fc5 installed 314 k xmms-devel i386 1:1.2.10-23.fc5 installed 29 k xmms-flac i386 1.1.2-26.fc5 installed 126 k xmms-goodnight i386 0.3.2-0.2.fc5.rf installed 45 k xmms-goodnight-debuginfo i386 0.3.2-0.2.fc5.rf installed 8.1 k xmms-gtk-playlist i386 2.0-0.2.fc5.rf installed 92 k xmms-gtk-playlist-debuginfo i386 2.0-0.2.fc5.rf installed 236 k xmms-infopipe i386 1.3-2.2.fc5.rf installed 44 k xmms-infopipe-debuginfo i386 1.3-2.2.fc5.rf installed 30 k xmms-itouch i386 0.1.2-5.fc5.rf installed 56 k xmms-itouch-debuginfo i386 0.1.2-5.fc5.rf installed 75 k xmms-libs i386 1:1.2.10-23.fc5 installed 608 k xmms-lirc i386 1.4-7.fc5 installed 70 k xmms-modplug i386 2.05-6.fc5 installed 120 k xmms-modplug-debuginfo i386 2.05-1.2.fc5.rf installed 558 k xmms-mp3 i386 1:1.2.10-16.fc5.rf installed 189 k xmms-mp3-debuginfo i386 1:1.2.10-16.fc5.rf installed 515 k xmms-musepack i386 1.2-2.1.fc5.rf installed 41 k xmms-musepack-debuginfo i386 1.2-2.1.fc5.rf installed 158 k xmms-scrobbler i386 0.3.8-1.fc5 installed 106 k xmms-shn i386 2.4.0-1.2.fc5.rf installed 95 k xmms-shn-debuginfo i386 2.4.0-1.2.fc5.rf installed 242 k xmms-sid i386 0.8.0-0.1.beta15.fc5 installed 248 k xmms-skins i386 1:1.2.10-13 installed 2.7 M xmms-speex i386 0.9.1-5 installed 76 k xmms-wma i386 1.0.5-3.fc5.rf installed 147 k xmms-wma-debuginfo i386 1.0.5-3.fc5.rf installed 784 k xmms-xosd i386 2.2.14-6.fc5 installed 30 k Transaction Summary ============================================================================= Install 0 Package(s) Update 0 Package(s) Remove 36 Package(s) Downloading Packages: Running Transaction Test Finished Transaction Test Transaction Test Succeeded Running Transaction Removing : xmms-arts ####################### [ 1/36] Removing : xmms-infopipe-debuginfo ####################### [ 2/36] Removing : xmms-sid ####################### [ 3/36] Removing : xmms-shn-debuginfo ####################### [ 4/36] Removing : xmms-acme-debuginfo ####################### [ 5/36] Removing : xmms-modplug ####################### [ 6/36] Removing : xmms-lirc ####################### [ 7/36] Removing : xmms-acme ####################### [ 8/36] Removing : xmms-crossfade ####################### [ 9/36] Removing : xmms-itouch ####################### [10/36] Removing : xmms-xosd ####################### [11/36] Removing : xmms-modplug-debuginfo ####################### [12/36] Removing : xmms-mp3 ####################### [13/36] Removing : xmms-aac ####################### [14/36] Removing : xmms-goodnight ####################### [15/36] Removing : xmms-alarm ####################### [16/36] Removing : xmms-libs ####################### [17/36] Removing : xmms-musepack-debuginfo ####################### [18/36] Removing : xmms-infopipe ####################### [19/36] Removing : xmms-wma-debuginfo ####################### [20/36] Removing : xmms-itouch-debuginfo ####################### [21/36] Removing : xmms-scrobbler ####################### [22/36] Removing : xmms-devel ####################### [23/36] Removing : xmms-gtk-playlist-debuginfo ####################### [24/36] Removing : xmms-flac ####################### [25/36] Removing : xmms-wma ####################### [26/36] Removing : xmms-gtk-playlist ####################### [27/36] Removing : xmms-skins ####################### [28/36] Removing : xmms-musepack ####################### [29/36] Removing : xmms ####################### [30/36] Removing : xmms-mp3-debuginfo ####################### [31/36] Removing : xmms-shn ####################### [32/36] Removing : xmms-alarm-debuginfo ####################### [33/36] Removing : xmms-goodnight-debuginfo ####################### [34/36] Removing : xmms-speex ####################### [35/36] Removing : xmms-cdread ####################### [36/36] Removed: xmms.i386 1:1.2.10-23.fc5 xmms-aac.i386 0:2.0-8.fc5.rf xmms-acme.i386 0:0.4.3-5.fc5 xmms-acme-debuginfo.i386 0:0.4.2-1.fc5.rf xmms-alarm.i386 0:0.3.7-4.fc5 xmms-alarm-debuginfo.i386 0:0.3.7-1.2.fc5.rf xmms-arts.i386 0:0.7.1-2 xmms-cdread.i386 0:0.14-11.fc5 xmms-crossfade.i386 0:0.3.10-1.fc5 xmms-devel.i386 1:1.2.10-23.fc5 xmms-flac.i386 0:1.1.2-26.fc5 xmms-goodnight.i386 0:0.3.2-0.2.fc5.rf xmms-goodnight-debuginfo.i386 0:0.3.2-0.2.fc5.rf xmms-gtk-playlist.i386 0:2.0-0.2.fc5.rf xmms-gtk-playlist-debuginfo.i386 0:2.0-0.2.fc5.rf xmms-infopipe.i386 0:1.3-2.2.fc5.rf xmms-infopipe-debuginfo.i386 0:1.3-2.2.fc5.rf xmms-itouch.i386 0:0.1.2-5.fc5.rf xmms-itouch-debuginfo.i386 0:0.1.2-5.fc5.rf xmms-libs.i386 1:1.2.10-23.fc5 xmms-lirc.i386 0:1.4-7.fc5 xmms-modplug.i386 0:2.05-6.fc5 xmms-modplug-debuginfo.i386 0:2.05-1.2.fc5.rf xmms-mp3.i386 1:1.2.10-16.fc5.rf xmms-mp3-debuginfo.i386 1:1.2.10-16.fc5.rf xmms-musepack.i386 0:1.2-2.1.fc5.rf xmms-musepack-debuginfo.i386 0:1.2-2.1.fc5.rf xmms-scrobbler.i386 0:0.3.8-1.fc5 xmms-shn.i386 0:2.4.0-1.2.fc5.rf xmms-shn-debuginfo.i386 0:2.4.0-1.2.fc5.rf xmms-sid.i386 0:0.8.0-0.1.beta15.fc5 xmms-skins.i386 1:1.2.10-13 xmms-speex.i386 0:0.9.1-5 xmms-wma.i386 0:1.0.5-3.fc5.rf xmms-wma-debuginfo.i386 0:1.0.5-3.fc5.rf xmms-xosd.i386 0:2.2.14-6.fc5 Complete! real 0m55.707s user 0m11.189s sys 0m2.888s
Smart's turn
I need to add to another post, to much output :)
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Thnx again, jlc. :)
NP, they need to get better about getting info like that out so things can get impoved.
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Thanks for the information. I think that explains some of the recent troubles that Fedora has. :)
Yeah, the Developers ask on the Test list, but most of the people are running Rawhide and don't want to run stable + testing, I did for awhile and then just mv to rawhide ;)
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redha...a.testers/40132
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As you might have found out, my main concern is not really the fedora distro itself, but the quality of updates. ;) I find it rather shocking that updates break X or printers completely. Didn't they test the "updates" before releasing them? I am really confused and I'd like to know what is going on behind the scenes, but I don't have any time that I could spend on the fedora-project. :sad:
I forgot to mention on this, one of the big problems is they release these to
fedora-updates-testing.repo
Only not a lot of people use it, so they don't get as much feed back from a broad listening audiance :)
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All mine work like a champ so if your not having problems, then don't just remove it!! :P
If you are having problems (artic) than bugzilla it! please :)
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Compiling packages from source is easier than in any other distro, opposed to Mandriva's "almost broken" devel packages.
I have to disagree with you there. I don't think there's a better distro at compiling from source than Gentoo. And yes I have used Slackware.
I think scarecrow's point was doing it from scratch as compared to a build system or package manager. Which I agree fully with him :)
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same thing, diff wallpaper I threw together with the gnome-backgrounds tenacles.svg. The Dapper Drake is landing!
There was a time I said I've never learn to scheme engine themes. Then I did almost nothing but... Now, all the cairo engine crap and pixmaps are too slow. There's nothing left for me to do
Nice and clean.
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Whats up with the SIG!!!
https://mandrivausers.org/index.php?showtopic=32287
tyme showed me that, thats funny!
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ssh may configured to authenticate against an ldap directory
Whats up with the SIG!!!
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http://www.justinconover.com/screenshots/gtkpod.jpg
On Solaris/Gnome-2.14.1
http://www.justinconover.com/screenshots/chime.jpg
A gui to DTrace which is pretty cool.
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I always prefer a rock-stable and secure kernel over a latest-and-greatest kernel
rock-stable and secure kernel, click me.......
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I ended up putting it on my laptop last Friday night, took it off about an hour or two later........ :huh:
So I can't give it any glaring reviews, just not for me it was to sluggish under workloads and that is pretty much enough for me not to like.
Plus it just seems over the past long time now, I've settled on rh/fc for my linux needs and solaris for other *nix needs. They got what I like and do what I want
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Yeah, I already d/l it, I read the news every day, unfortunatly seem to read stuff I don't even care about any more, damn habit of clicking on osnews/distrowatch everyday.
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Not sure if I care to debate anymore, or give a rip if its a fork either.
Maybe Solaris has infected me, dunno but I sure like it
If Ubuntu is a fork, really who cares? One of the biggest sharts anyone can say about it is "sudo" and they don't give enough back to Debian.
The fact remains that they still push patches back to debian propper, if they want to use them and I'm sure they have used them, then cool.
Whilst I don't care for the way they handle sudo, pretty much all the forums for <your>distro have a how-to or advice from someone has been saying the same 5 second quick fix to sudo for years before ubuntu even was a gleam in a dream. So not sure if that really matters much since a lot of users of <distro X> do the same thing cause, su - or su -c "command" has been a pain to some. again I'll have to give this the "who cares" answer.
They have pushed Linux to more people in a good way, than a bad way. It is a very polished desktop and user friendly and still has the stuff for power users. Good mix for most.
I might even give Dapper a try on my lappy soon, I started using ubuntu when it was first released to the public in beta form and I thought it was pretty good then, so who knows, might try it again.
Look, at it this way, there are 350-500+ Linux distributions out there, some of them are forks of forks of forks, who really cares. There is a distro that is compatible for everyone.
In conclusion, I'll say it again "Who cares?"
By the way, were on Post 92, maybe we need a bash ubuntu part 2 thread when we hit 100...... ;)
Speaking of that, anyone remember why this thread was open or what is on page 1...... hehehehe
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Ubuntu users are idiots
Just kidding, someone had to ;)
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If you want to use something else on linux that is handling deps and building from source, I would look at pkgsrc from netbsd, I use it on Solaris too, and works pretty well. That way it isn't overiding other area's of your system, everything goes into /usr/pkg and /usr/pkgsrc
http://www.netbsd.org/Documentation/pkgsrc/index.html
http://www.asyd.net/home/docs/solaris/pkgsrc#libtool
http://www.drxyzzy.org/opsys/pkgsrc-sol9.html
http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/eric_bout...cratch_table_of
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WARNING: Objects in the mirror are larger than they appear.
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Just bumping
In case anyone wants to give a different *nix a try I would recommend giving Solaris Express a go.
I'm running it on several box's at home and at work. It's not the easiest to get through as far as hand holding but its pretty sweet OS.
I've even moved my main box (amd64) to just Solaris Express (bld 36) now, that was more of a personal motivation :)
As much as I like Linux (fedora) I found my self playing enemy-territory way to much when I get home from work instead of working on a lot of other things. :mellow: Plus I have FC running on 2 other box's so its not like I left, just moved the gaming OS off of my good pc so I wont be tempted. Call me weak
Some links
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/blogs (who doesn't like to read a good blog?)
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/communities
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/de...ommunities/jds/
Running Gnome-2.14 from the Vermillion builds
http://dlc.sun.com/osol/jds/downloads/current/
https://mandrivausers.org/index.php?act=Att...pe=post&id=2297
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/dtrace/
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/brandz/
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/smf/
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/
Just some really good stuff that isn't in any other OS.
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Wifi manager sees the other networks without a problem, but my work network is WPA secured. I have a ethernet plug right next to my desk, so I typicaly just plug in, but since you asked, IX, I decided to give it a try. It's not accepting my WPA password. cyberjackle, do you have any suggestions?
I have not used WPA my self so I couldn't tell you to much about it. I know they include wpa_supplicant/gui so maybe try
wpa_gui man -k wpa
or our best friend !google wpa_supplicant +fedora
I fired up the gui and it looks pretty easy to use, but you never know with how cards/firmware/networks are setup how it will work.
yum vs smart
in Other Linux and Unix Distributions
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Pretty easy to add channels
Help menu for smart channel
It's pretty easy to add channels, for example livna
Since I know none of the other repos i use have ati's fglrx driver and livna does
From --show, you can see that updates-testing is disabled.
Now disable livna-stable (for me)
Search for the ati drivers again
Nothing returned.
Sort of yes/no
if you fire up the gui for the first time will rummage through and ask if you want to enable/disable several channels.
# smart --gui