Guest johnKFT Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 Trying to install a tarball I was told no gcc in your $PATH. Sure enough 'which gcc' announced no gcc anywhere. I went to Mandrake Control Centre and checked the software installer for gcc - it gave me gcc2.96, so I installed that. Still no gcc. Cannot find any gcc anywhere other than this, which does not seem to register anywhere, and should I not have gcc3 anyway? Anyone know what is going on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aRTee Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 During installation, did you select 'development platform'? If not, you don't have gcc (3.x) installed. BTW gcc2.x is the older one. You can run through the install again, just do upgrade (one of the few instances where that isn't too risky) and make sure you select development platform (or whatever it's called). Or try: urpmi gcc and see what it tells you. It may take some trial and error, maybe someone else on this board knows a quicker way (there should certainly be one.. ;) ) On a side note, stupidly enough, even if you select development platform, you still have to select kernel-source in package selection, or install it later with urpmi kernel-source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyme Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 urpmi gcc should install the latest version of gcc. assuming you have all 3 cds :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emh Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 Better yet, typing "urpmi gcc*" will give you all the gcc rpms you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnKFT Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 Thanks everyone. A combination of your helpful replies and some probing and comparing with my current 9.0 (on a different machine) has made me realise that I did not read the small print when ordering my 2CD Standard Edition. I have to confess to wondering briefly how they managed to get onto 2 CDs what required 3 before. In short I am missing gcc and heaven only knows what else in the list of things I upgraded to 9.1 specifically for. I am a bit cheesed off to be honest. The Standard Edition was touted as being ideal for a desktop - just my needs - with no mention of being unable to compile software and heaven knows what else. Where is Zeroconf, touted as the answer to my inability to connect two computers together in the same house? Why can I not connect to the internet in spite of installing the special winmodem driver that always worked with 8.0. 8.1, 8.2 and 9.0. Is there a simple solution to this or am I going to have to fork out for a fancier version? And how can I be sure it will have all the things I took for granted with 9.0? I shall have a cup of tea and think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyme Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 well, you could either download the 3rd CD or you could add one of the web ftp sites to your sources list....those are your two best bets :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aRTee Posted July 18, 2003 Report Share Posted July 18, 2003 johnKFT, where did you get that 2cd edition?? Not from Mandrake I hope? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chadd Posted July 18, 2003 Report Share Posted July 18, 2003 I was wondering if I was the only one to get two cds!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnKFT Posted July 18, 2003 Report Share Posted July 18, 2003 Yes, I did get it from Mandrake (specifically in order to contribute to their finances), and I do not think they made it sufficiently clear that the 'Standard Edition' is in effect a cut-down version of the real thing. As it happens it also came very late due to a cockup on their part and with instructions in French. A helpful chap from Mandrake said he would assist me with the install when I asked what the manual should say in English so I think I will email him with a bit of a complaint about this. I went for the Standard Edition assuming it was equivalent to the previous Standard Editions I have had - 7CDs seemed rather overkill for my modest requirements. I'll let you know how I get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyme Posted July 18, 2003 Report Share Posted July 18, 2003 johnKFT: I think the standard edition is made for people who are just using it (like windows) not people who are trying to develop programs. As I said, you can go download the 3rd CD or add the online sources...I know this is a pain, and MDK should have been more specific as to what was not on the standard edition CDs, but you won't get a very helpful response from Mandrake ;) (that's the way it's supposed to be, sorry for the inconvenience, some crap like that :) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 Firstly, the easiest solution to your problem is to setup a network urpmi source for main. Use http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/ , and if you are on low bandwidth, choose to use synthesis hdlists (since you already have hdlists for the stuff you have on the 2 CDs. Secondly, Mandrakesoft does not hide the fact that Standard Edition is not suitable (on it's own) for development work, but it's not going to advertise that there is no gcc on the page showing the features (just as any other company isn't going to tell you the missing features of a certain model). Just go and compare these two pages: http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/91/standard http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/91/powerpack Finally, if you *just* want to give Mandrakesoft some money (and you can also get all the "commercial" software you get on Standard from them), join the MandrakeClub instead. -You get the CDs sooner (if you dowload/burn or buy from a cheaper online vendor) -You get all the same (and more) benefits) -Mandrakesoft gets more of the money (since they don't have to pay shipping, printing, stamping costs) -Everyone wins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zfalcon Posted August 10, 2003 Report Share Posted August 10, 2003 only thing you miss in that .... on the box in the back at the bottom there is write with other programs .... gcc 3.2.2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glitz Posted August 10, 2003 Report Share Posted August 10, 2003 I find it really cheap of Mandrake to sell a package with less in it than the free download. That's really amaturish. The idea is as stupid as that dumb commercial where the guy saves the company millions by putting one less olive in every jar. And if their excuse is that it was an oversight, then all I have to say is that upper management should at least take a passing interest in the company they are supposed to be running. Glitz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnKFT Posted August 10, 2003 Report Share Posted August 10, 2003 I have tried not to feel too disgruntled over this in view of the fact that I got 9.0 from a magazine dvd and 8.2, 8.1 and 8.0 very cheaply from Mandrake (all with 3 CDs), but I do find it difficult to disagree with Glitz. If the development packages were only needed by specialists writing their own software I could understand, but the fact is they are needed to just install the most tivial little tar.gz. Which means in effect that Mandrake is selling a Standard Package which virtually limits the user to using only software produced by Mandrake for that package. Am I being cynical in saying that this sounds rather familiar. I cannot imagine that there is noticeable extra cost in including the third CD. Or am I being unfair? Thanks to everyone who replied and helped me find the packages I needed. I just found a mirror and put it into the list of sources in Mandrake Control Centre, so although I do not get the descriptions (which is a nuisance - is there a solution to this?) getting the software installed is no great problem - although time-consuming to being with. My connection is far too slow to download a whole CD even assuming I could get the box to recognise my CD writer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zfalcon Posted August 10, 2003 Report Share Posted August 10, 2003 honnestly i will cry a lot more if i wasn t on a free connection of course i m on a 64 bps but it cost me nothing to hold the connect 48 hour but if u look correctly on the linux mandrake 9.1 standard version you have a register number ( not possible to register the standard version actually ) a list of software ( where some miss like gcc ) the complete miss of documentation for install the system if u aren t a guy that know the command to read a how to on command and if ur xfree is dead for some reason u good for a reinstall the complete need since gcc isn t present and since u have nearly to download everything like lib.so.c to update the system so u need completely to get member of LM community and pay 5$ or euro depend where do you live and they call that linux i m a bit angry about that not really cause of my case cause i know i will download the three CD's but i think about ppl that will buy this package to show to ppl how linux is good .... that not a good thing for the community , i m wondering if i m going or not to mail them to tell what i think ( i m not going to insult ppl don t worry ) many ppl have work hard pretty hard to make linux easiest to ppl to install to configure to understand ... personnaly i make ppl come on linux at my job now what i have to tell them ? you buyed a demo now download the real one ? i never got that under slackware .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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