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while FC2 is still great in my book, I now have threads all over mub regarding small things that are getting broken... sure is easy to break... of course, it could be me... :unsure:

this thread sure did die quickly... :sad: latest development: grip just doesn't even rip anymore. Even if I just say "Rip Only" which should quickly rip into .wav files, it doesn't work right. It DOES look like it is ripping... and I DO have .wav files on my hard drive after it finishes, but if I try to play them with xmms, it is just a click, then silence, although xmms looks like it is playing normally... So I wonder if grip is really ripping into .wavs correctly, or if xmms just isn't playing them for some reason... xmms does play the songs I ripped with grip a few days ago (when it was working good). Its just that now, I can't rip anything that plays. Note: I also tried ripping into .wavs with k3b - same result - looks like it is ripping, and I get a .wav file on my hard drive, but it won't play. I can't figure out how I could possibly mess up the ripping capability... In between the time when grip ripped good, and when it quit working, all I did was to yum install mysql and then tried to do a startup script to get the sql server running. There's a thread about this in Other Linux Distributions (that also died quickly) anyway, any pointers about what wrong with my ripping ? It worked great the first few times I used grip to rip some CDs, now it just doesn't do it anymore.

Do I install this thing the way I've always done it? d/l driver change inittab to initdefault 3 reboot run the installer: sh blah blah edit your xorg.conf file from "nv" to "nvidia" startx and lastly edit your etc/inittab back to initdefault 5 Or is there a new way of doing it? dang - I guess I should have read-up on whatever instructions nvidia has... but I've done it several times over the past year the above way And when you say " let it compile" do I say Yes for the installer to download whatever it needs to compile from nvidia or do I say No to let it compile something I already have ?? :huh: sorry to be dense, but this'll probably help a few others who might a similar questions... edit: well, when I re-read Ix's above post more slowly - he says it wont find a precompiled kernel source for whatever it needs, so I guess that means to say Yes to allow it to download what it needs?

what am I supposed to say after I run the installer and it says something like " No precompiled kernel sources for something or other, Do you want to download them from nvidia.com...?" Do I say Yes or No? If you say No, then it wants to compile something I already have. Last time I did this (with the prior driver) on my FC2 machine, it trashed my install - nothing worked right anymore - screensavers or anything... This is on an FC2 machine, as mentioned. thanks !

tried the script (copied & pasted exactly as is). Getting an error on line 62 "unexpected token 'new line' line 62 is this one: /bin/kill `cat /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid 2> /dev/null ` > /dev/null 2>&1 Also, how do I make a shell script executable from anywhere? The only way I can run it is if I'm in the directory and do a ./mysqld If I'm anywhere else, it says not found. How do you get it in the path?

thanks for the helpful replies. I did do that, before I posted my first post I also did that before I posted my first post... yep, that's exactly what I got, before I posted here. That's why I knew sql was installed but the server was not running, hence my first post I'm just mentioning the above things because I didn't want people thinking I just ask questions here without doing any checking myself first. I also googled a bit on mysql, and thats how I found the mysql.com site. I did read thru the post-install steps at that site. However, I still had my questions. I will try out your script when I get home later. I never created a shell script before (although I did a lot of batch files back in my DOS days). So do I just do a vi mysqld in /etc/rc.d/init.d/ ? Also, I wonder if all my locations are the same (the directories) as in your script. I'll have to do some checking when I get home. thanks again !!

here is what grip has for the Encoder Command Line, under the Encode tab: -o %m -a %a -l %d -t %n -N %t -G %G -d %y -q 4 %w Under the Encode / Options tab, I have 256 as the bitrate. Now, according to grip's help about command lines and switches, it says that your bitrate is passed to the encoder by the %b switch. I don't see a %b switch in the above command line... :unsure: and when I put one in, and tried out ripping & encoding a CD, grip went thru the rip process, but did not do any encoding. I just had a blank folder. How do you tell grip to encode at a certain bitrate, and what's the point of grip allowing you to enter a bitrate when it doesn't even pass it to the encoder... ??

This is on a stand-alone machine with FC2. I installed mysql by way of yum install mysql I have a few questions regarding getting it setup properly. During an Intro to Databases course last year, we had to install Oracle 9i / SQL on our machines at home (winblows) to do some assignments on. During my oracle install, if I remember right, I entered the username & password during install (I seem to remember "scott" and "tiger" - even though those aren't names I selected). I can't remember how the sql server was started on my winblows machine. Probably automatically at bootup. So anyway, on a linux box, how does the server get started? Is it set-up as a process that starts automatically whenever you log on, or is it started just when you want to use it? Also, how do the username & password get set-up? I don't think I'll have any trouble learning to create a Db and tables and fields and all that, I'm just not sure how to do the initial setup. edit: I did go into Server Settings / Services - from the Main Menu, but mysqld was not listed in the services listing... thanks in advance for any comments [moved from Terminal Shell, etc by spinynorman]

I think I did that localhost setup also - it was part of the instructions on setting up CUPS. I don't print alot of stuff, so this isn't super important. But it would be nice to have a few options when printing. When I print manuals or tutorials and the like, I usually select Fast Draft Quality and also 2-sided printing - saves ink and saves paper.

lol - I also thought "200" was a strange bitrate to enter. Actually, I was looking at a grip heip article I found on the web somewhere, or maybe it was in grip's help, and the example showed "200' in the bitrate setting. I thought, why not 192 or 256 ? That brings up another point. Yes, I notice that most sites say that grip encodes ogg in VBR, but every site I went to said you can enter a max bitrate and a min bitrate. That is what I am used to when I rip CDs with CDex with VBR on my winblows machine. However, when in grip I can NOT see any option for min & max bitrates... :unsure: The CD I just ripped & burned a little while ago (my second one) I decided to select Rip Only, so that it would just rip into .wav files. I burned with k3b, and it seems fine. That burns up alot of space on your HD though, so I'd like to play around with ogg a lilttle more. I noticed the default encoder, even with ogg, when you first use grip is Lame. I used that the first time. Next time I rip into oggs I think I'll try oggenc.

looks about the same to me. I just got through doing a "yum install mysql", and it looks like it installed correctly. And I checked if I had python installed from my original FC2 install, and looks like it is also there. I got java installed last week, so I'm getting a real development machine going here... :D Now to learn it all... :unsure:

I just checked out a tutorial on mysql. Looks like what I want. I've been wanting to learn it anyway. Last year in my Intro to Db course, we spent a few weeks on Oracle 9i / SQL (it came with our textbooks - 5 CDs). So I am slightly familiar with SQL. One of our assignments to do at home was to create tables & such for a Video Collection, and then put some data into it. Wasn't too bad if I remember. If I learn mysql, would it be very similar to regular sql (like oracle's) ? Or is it alot different, with different commands and such? Meaning, I don't like learning stuff unless it'll benefit me career-wise.

thanks for that link. I'm gonna read up on python - on the web, and probably will buy one introductory book. I'm an old guy - still like to read books. Anyway, I'm still unsure how files are updated these days, say in python. For example, lets say I alread have a Record Album Collection file with hundreds of entries in it. I run a python program that accesses the file and displays a record from it (I'm saying a record, but I guess it is called a line now). So on my GUI screen I now see the following info for one album: Artist: Pink Fairies Title: What a Bunch of Sweeties Label: Polydor Number: 555-5555 Released: 1971 Bought: 1979 Price: 8.99 Where: Sound Warehouse Condition: NM Comments: autographed Lets say I change one or more of the fields... how does python know where to write the changed info, or would it re-write the entire record (line)? I mean, does it work the same way that I am used to in procedural languages: You read in a record and then each field would have whatever value. If you change one of the fields, and then write the record, it just puts the new info over the old in the same place. Now, I haven't written any program (cobol) since around 1990 so I am rusty in this stuff.

update: tried it in my wife's car stereo, and it plays fine. Guess I need to replace my truck stereo with a newer model that plays CD-Rs better (and mp3s maybe) more money I need to spend.. :sad:

I used grip for the first time ever. Ripped a few songs to ogg. I think I entered 200 as the quality. When I listen to the songs with xmms, it displays from around 112KBPS to around 150KBPS for the quality, averaging around 125 or so... :unsure: What did the "200" I entered actually do ? I'm used to ripping (mp3s) with CDex, in winblows, and selecting, say 256, and the songs are then 256 - not 125 or 150 or whatever...

here's a listing of windows things and their equivalents in linux: http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/table.shtml#2 so, for example, if you scroll down to Section 3 where it list Text Editors, Notepad, it shows many linux equivalents.

Its the first time I ever used k3b, but I remember first selecting Audio CD, then I dragged and dropped the ogg files until I had about 65 minutes worth. Then I clicked burn, selected 4x, and it burned the tracks and then said Fixating... I noticed the burn type was set to Auto (for DAO, TAO), but in Nero I always did it with DAO. I wonder what k3b used...? BTW - I liked Sound Juicer, but was dissapointed in that you could not select Quality. It says "coming soon !" under the Quality Setting. "Coming Soon" for linux progs sometimes means, well you know... Does anyone know what default quality Sound Juicer rips oggs at? I can't tell, because I can't hear mp3s or oggs on my hard drive - the sound is so low I can't tell what they sound like... (I have another thread about this - in this same Forum - still unanswered... :sad: When I play audio CDs, the sound is nice and loud. When I play an ogg ripped with Sound Juicer, even though I can barely hear it, xmms displays bitrate quality varying from around 125Kbps to 150Kbps. I don't know how that translates to mp3 quality. When I rip mp3s (with CDex) on my winblows machine, I generally do either 192 or 256, even though lately I have been ripping as .wav files, then burning to cd, then deleting the .wav files. Iphitus - when I change tracks in my car, it just displays the track I changed to and 0:00, like Track 3 0:00, and never starts playing. As mentioned above, when I burn CDs for my car stereo, I always burn at only 4x. Edit: never mind about the unanswered "sound problem" thread I mentioned above. I just solved it.

thanks for those links, iph... it looks great. hope I can do something with it. Do you work with these things? I mean, if I have any question...?

I'm used to thinking of working with files in that each record of a file is a fixed length, and you read whatever record you are interested in - could be the first record, or could be somewhere in the middle of the file... so it would be an indexed file. While reading java or python books, it looks like files are just lines of text with /n at the end. Guess you have to seek the spot you want to read, if your not reading sequentially. The books I have browsed thru mostly agree that python is a easier language to learn. They say a program in java would be alot smaller in python. For what I want to do - set up my record collection (the 12" vinyl things - not CDs) on my computer. I would have input screens to input new albums that I buy at collector conventions, or I could look up info on existing albums. I previously had my entire collection in an Excel spreadsheet, which has now been lost... my fault. I took a course in VB6 last year, and got an easy A in it. Maybe that would do what I want. Even though I don't really want to learn any more VB. Would rather do the same thing with java or python - if they do stuff like that.

I burned a CD with k3b for the first time ever. I have previously used Nero for the past few years. Anyway, I ripped the songs with Sound Juicer, and burned them with k3b. I liked k3b very much, it is alot like nero, plus its free... :D However, my CD does not play in my car stereo, it just sits at song number 1 and displays 0:00. CDs that I burn with Nero play OK on my car stereo. I assume that CDs burned with k3b should play on other CD players... :sad:

On a new install of FC2 on a new machine, I get nice, loud sound from my audio CDs. However, when I select a mp3 or ogg to play from my hard drive, it plays so low I can barely hear it. When I double-click a song to play, XMMS starts up, and looks like it is playing it but I can barely hear anything. I checked the sound control on the panel (this is gnome) and it is up, and I checked the Volume Control in the main menu - and the necessary volumes look like they are all up. Is there something else to check? Something in XMMS - like an audio plug-in or something? I am using the on-board sound on my KT400A MSI mobo. According to my Hardware Browser I have VIA AC97 sound. I don't know why I get good sound from audio CDs and not from songs on my hard drive. Doesn't it all go thru the same sound hardware... :sad: Edit: never mind, I just figured it out. Under the Volume Control under the Main Menu, and in the Alsa Mixer tab, I did not notice before that you could scroll over to the right to see lots more volume sliders. Found one at the far right called VIA DXS that increases the sound on mp3s and oggs.

I may buy this book to see about python: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...=glance&s=books and anything named after Monty Python can't be that bad... The book seems to be highly-rated by people. I don't consider myself an "absolute beginner" to programming, but I am for OO programming.

oh, well - I knew what UML stands for, I just didn't know exactly you were meaning by what you said Well, the world is going to pictures for everything right ? Like when I go to the gas pump, the "instructions" on the pump are just 4 pictures I think. Guy removing the handle, guy flipping up the lever, guy sticking the nozzle in his gas tank, guy returning the nozzle and flipping down the lever. I don't see how you could program anything by drawing pictures. You mean its like a preliminary design step before the actual coding ?

I'm not sure what you're saying with that last statement... :huh: what do you mean ?

I guess it does sound more like a database thing. In cobol, I would have a program that you could enter, say, an item number on your screen, and then the program would check the file and if the item # was found, the program would display the info to your screen (you also designed which fields would display and what positions on the screen). Guess nothing learned in my younger days is any good anymore. I kind of regret not learning any OO stuff 10 years ago or so - like C or something. Now when I look at a Java program it looks like greek. Some of you older guys might know that when you read a cobol program - its like reading a novel... If so and so thing is true, then perform paragraph X Now, I do know what bits and bytes are - they had those back in the 80s too ;) and I also know how For / Next, Do While, If Else, and all that stuff works. We had that stuff back then also. In cobol, I'm used to thinking in tems of what was called "Structured Programming". Where you would have like a Main program block, and in there you would Perform various other Paragraphs based on what you wanted to do. These other Paragraphs were just other blocks of code in the same program. Or you could also Call external Subroutines that were "outside" of your program. From what I can tell from reading my Java books, it looks like the above stuff is now done with Methods. Like I said above, I know the mechanics of programming (loops and stuff like that). Its just the new ways and syntax of doing stuff that is confusing.