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  4. Still undecided? Then install Fedora Core 5!

    in Everything Linux

    Posted · Edited by jlc

    thx! You'd think there'd be an improvement from devel to release, not the other way around, and not twice as bad :wall: Just a few days ago, and before, I hardly ever touched my swap, but now I do every boot. Haven't singled anything out, just seems a lot of things are using more mem, and I wish I new why and if anything can be done about it.

    /bvc goes searching...... :whistle:

    YEah, i know it was running debug, but I run rawhide and opensolaris and they weren't as slow so I just gave up on it :)

     

    If you try FC5, don't forget about the respin dvd if bittorrents not bad.

     

    https://mandrivausers.org/index.php?showtopic=32586

  5. Still undecided? Then install Fedora Core 5!

    in Everything Linux

    Posted

    any one that ran/runs Dapper and FC5 got any comments on speed/performance between the 2? I don't care about bootup just after login. Dapper is tearing me up. I told myself to keep the month old devel version and not upgrade to the release, because everyhting was hunkydory, but noOOOo....I had to :wall: I have to turn nautilus off, use a light metacity and the thinice engine to get anything done.

     

    I know I'm biased, but what the hey :)

     

    I installed the last one or two before final on my laptop and it drove me crazy, with in an 2 or 3 hours, i was back in Fedora. YMMV, from what i hear people say the same thing about Fedora, but it feels and response a lot faster than dapper did on my box and I treat my OS pretty hard :)

     

    I also run selilnux, which can take a hit on performance, but again, i don't feel any slow down in fc5 that i did in dapper.

  6. Still undecided? Then install Fedora Core 5!

    in Everything Linux

    Posted

    I finished downloading it. ( my work is very gracious in allowing me to do this.) I have a question however, can I download the updates and install them from a disc? I live in the country with horrible phone lines, thus crappy dial up. If not I may not burn these.

     

    Sure, you can create a local repository with "createrepo" :)

     

    Or somethng like yum localinstall *.rpm should look through them and update too.

  7. Still undecided? Then install Fedora Core 5!

    in Everything Linux

    Posted

    I might try it in vmware to see what I'm missing out on. FC4 was OK, but the only niggles that annoyed me were that when I logged in as root, I could use most of the tools without having to provide the full path /sbin/chkconfig, etc, etc. When logged in as a normal user, and then going to superuser, you had to use the path. Maybe just a bashrc config or something :unsure:

     

    However, I still mostly use Mandriva, and probably still will.

     

    edit .bash_profile

     

    PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin:/usr/sbin

     

     

    normal

    $ echo $PATH

    /usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/home/justin/bin

     

    root

    # echo $PATH

    /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/root/bin

     

    or you could add all of that to it

     

    PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin

     

     

     

    If you think PATH is bad in FC5, don't touch Solaris :)

  9. yum vs smart

    in Other Linux and Unix Distributions

    Posted

    One thing i did forget to tell you though is after the script is run and you open smart-gui and look at the channels, is that Livna-Stable is enabled. I disabled mine before I used it to update to the latest kernel release.

     

     

    We chatted on IRC, but thought I would say it here :)

     

     

    Why FX would bring this is up, because Freshrpms/dags/dries/rpmforge and Livna most of the time wont mix well together because of overlapping packages that can be a different version strings.

     

    However, thats the good thing with priority's.

    Livna-stable is set to 10

    fresh/dag/dries/rpmforge is set to 100

     

    Which basically means if its in "100" install/upgrade, if its in 10 that don't unless i tell you to, like nvidia/fglrx drivers.

  12. yum vs smart

    in Other Linux and Unix Distributions

    Posted

    I tried to install without your script and I don't think I did very good. So I removed smart and reinstalled with your script and it looks like yours when I run the "smart channel --show".

     

    Thanks for the script jlc!!!

     

    And yes I'm back in Fedora and having fun. Just wish I could get my tv tuner card to work. lol

     

    Cool, first lab rat it worked :)

  15. Upgrading Red Hat packages using rpm command

    in Other Linux and Unix Distributions

    Posted

    Red Hat, using EL4 Update 2. I couldn't wait to install whilst I had Update 3 ISO's downloading, and just wanted to save installing without reinstall :P

     

    Ah, is this a company box that your using rhel 4 on but don't have it setup for RHN?

     

    If so, and these are just iso's you d/l that are freely avaible, no problem there, but i would suggest using centos, rebuild of rhel4 only has "yum" :)

     

     

    [justin@pillar ~]$ cat /etc/redhat-release

    CentOS release 4.3 (Final)

  17. Upgrading Red Hat packages using rpm command

    in Other Linux and Unix Distributions

    Posted

    If you made your list with rpm -qa you would want to do this first:

     

    rpm -qa xmms\* gaim\* videolan-client\* > new_list.txt
cat new_list.txt
gaim-gaym-0.96-3.fc5
xmms-libs-1.2.10-23.fc5
gaim-meanwhile-1.2.8-2.fc5
gaim-guifications-2.13-0.beta2.fc5.rf
xmms-1.2.10-22.fc5
gaim-encryption-2.38-2.fc5
xmms-wma-1.0.5-3.fc5.rf
xmms-cdread-0.14-11.fc5
gaim-1.5.0-16.fc5
xmms-mp3-1.2.10-16.fc5.rf
gaim-otr-3.0.0-2.fc5.rf
videolan-client-0.8.5-1.fc5
xmms-skins-1.2.10-13
gaim-irchelper-0.12-1.fc5.rf
gaim-plugin_pack-1.0-0.beta3.fc5.rf

     

    Now remove the numbers and extra blobs:

     

    $ sed -i s/-[0-9].*// new_list.txt
$ cat new_list.txt
gaim-gaym
xmms-libs
gaim-meanwhile
gaim-guifications
xmms
gaim-encryption
xmms-wma
xmms-cdread
gaim
xmms-mp3
gaim-otr
videolan-client
xmms-skins
gaim-irchelper
gaim-plugin_pack

  18. Upgrading Red Hat packages using rpm command

    in Other Linux and Unix Distributions

    Posted

    Use SED and CAT

     

    Example:

     

    The file: 

    $ cat list-of-packages
xmms-skins
xmms-wma
xmms-mp3
xmms-cdread
videolan-client
gaim\*

     

    We'll create a new file to include yum and end of line /

     

    $ echo '#!/bin/bash' > yumlist.sh
$ echo 'yum --exclude=*\debug\* install \' >> yumlist.sh
$ cat yumlist.sh
#!/bin/bash
yum --exclude=*\debug\* install \

     

    Now we will add a space and / to the end of the file from your list of packages file:

    sed it:

     

    $  sed 's/$/ \\/' list-of-packages >> yumlist.sh

     

    Add something to the bottom so it doesn't end with /

     

    echo 'echo "done"' >> yumlist.sh

     

    Revised file:

    $ cat yumlist.sh
#!/bin/bash
yum --exclude=*\debug\* install \
xmms-skins \
xmms-wma \
xmms-mp3 \
xmms-cdread \
videolan-client \
gaim\* \
echo "done"

     

    Install the file

     

    # sh list-of-packages.yum

    <SNIP>

    Installing:

    gaim i386 1:1.5.0-16.fc5 updates 4.3 M

    gaim-encryption i386 2.38-2.fc5 freshrpms 93 k

    gaim-gaym i386 0.96-3.fc5 extras 97 k

    gaim-guifications i386 2.13-0.beta2.fc5.rf rpmforge 262 k gaim-irchelper i386 0.12-1.fc5.rf rpmforge 22 k

    gaim-meanwhile i386 1.2.8-2.fc5 extras 57 k

    gaim-otr i386 3.0.0-2.fc5.rf rpmforge 41 k

    gaim-plugin_pack i386 1.0-0.beta3.fc5.rf rpmforge 46 k

    videolan-client i386 0.8.5-1.fc5 freshrpms 6.2 M

    xmms-cdread i386 0.14-11.fc5 extras 37 k

    xmms-mp3 i386 1:1.2.10-16.fc5.rf rpmforge 87 k

    xmms-skins i386 1:1.2.10-13 extras 2.6 M

    xmms-wma i386 1.0.5-3.fc5.rf rpmforge 79 k

    Installing for dependencies:

    xmms i386 1:1.2.10-22.fc5 extras 1.9 M

    xmms-libs i386 1:1.2.10-23.fc5 extras 245 k

     

    Transaction Summary

    =============================================================================

    Install 15 Package(s)

    Update 0 Package(s)

    Remove 0 Package(s)

    Total download size: 16 M

    Is this ok [y/N]:

     

     

    Is that what you wanted?

  20. Fedora Core 5 Re-Spin 20060523 Released

    in Other Linux and Unix Distributions

    Posted

    so do these updates make it so you can install NVIDIA drivers? I seem to remember people having trouble with that.

     

     

    Yep, you install the respin and it will have the updated kernel that will work right off the bat.

     

    These ISOs are based upon Fedora Core 5 and all updates released as of May 23rd, 2006.

     

    Which there have been 2-4 kernel updates since intial release I think. (just guessing)

  22. Picasa now for Linux!

    in Everything Linux

    Posted

    If you use Fedora, don't disable SELinux, just use a work around:

     

    http://james-morris.livejournal.com/11429.html

     

    It appears that some of the libraries they distribute require the execmod permission, which is not granted by default under SELinux. The above workaround above relabels the supplied libraries so that SELinux policy will consider them "safe" to perform operations constrained by the execmod permission. This in fact may be unsafe, although this workaround is certainly better than completely disabling SELinux.

     

    I love unsafe programs, sign me up right now!!!! :unsure:

  23. Reclusive Linux founder opens up

    in Everything Linux

    Posted

    Anyway, Linus is free to use what he want's, its obvious that he cares not for messing with his distro, but more for having one that works, is stable, and up to date, so that he can continue his role as collaborator and developer unhindered. I don't really think any fuss or discussion should be put into it, he's human just like us and can choose what works best for him. Because it works best for him, is no indication that it will work best for our uses, so picking something entirely because Linus uses it, is plain idiocy, thus, it shouldnt really matter to us what he uses.

     

    James

     

    Which is why he says:

     

    At some point I decided it doesn't really matter any more: the market is big enough that nobody cares what _I_ do, so just for simplicity

    I ended up doing just one distribution so that my different machines looked as similar as possible.

     

    I just wanted to stir the pot up, thought it would be fun...... :lol2:

     

    My personal opinion is that Fedora really isn't for new people, but new folks can use it. There gui's are just little python interfaces, that don't break anything like the other "two" can break if you go and change it by hand :) It has to many advanced feautres that most distros don't have and can be a little bleeding for most folks to deal with.

     

    Take SELinux for example, Google has a working Picasa for Linux, what do they tell Fedora users to do because SELinux "breaks" it? Tell you to turn it off!!! Instead of looking at the code and saying hey, maybe this is not so secure.

     

    http://james-morris.livejournal.com/11429.html

     

    http://people.redhat.com/drepper/selinux-mem.html

  25. SUSE Linux 10.1 x86-64

    in Other Linux and Unix Distributions

    Posted

    These tools are all about lock-in and making other distro's look hard but many noobies sucessfully install and configure gentoo without any of these tools. (or arch or slack etc.)

     

    I disgree, if you want to talk about lock-in there's only one OS that is well suited to that description! These GUI tools are a means of making the distro "more accessable", rather than to lock a user in.

     

    What Gowator is saying is once you get used to these tools, you wonder were they are in other distors and don't want switch once you don't find them, added with that you really "might" not understand what there doing in the background and end up not having a clue how to do anything outside the gui. Which is a very stong place in *nix ;)

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