9.2 late ?

[DragonMage]

Regarding about mandrake club members being the first to have ISO access, isn't that being talked about ever since mandrake club first started? Or at least that mandrake clubbers have access to their own servers in order to download stuffs? So it's not as bad as it seems.

 

Well... time to renew my membership it seems.. but 60 dollars seems so big a number for me right now :(

[illogic-al]

i refuse to join till they change those damn fonts on the main page. I can wait for the isos or someone can change a few lines of css and mdk gets another club member

[scoopy]

God has spoken:

 

http://www.mandrakeclub.com/article.php?si...mode=nocomments

 

Next ISOs of Mandrake 9.2 Download edition will be available for Club Members and all people who have contributed to the new version (including developpers and translators), prior to retail packs and public download release.

 

This new policy was strongly suggested by Club Members for a long time. It is now possible to offer this opportunity with the new BitTorrent technology.

 

Mandrake 9.2 ISO images will be released in advance to Mandrake Club users, hopefully before October 15th, when all last tests will have been achieved.

 

Thanks to all people who made possible this new promising release of Mandrake Linux.

 

MandrakeSoft Team.

[illogic-al]

> On Wednesday 24 September 2003 11:38, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote:

> > Last time, is there a chance one could have an iso without

> > paying ?

>  

 

Of course, either you have contributed, or you can wait.

 

Note, the big issue is to ensure that boxed sets from the store are  

delivered "sooner" compared to the ISO release. If I have to choose  

between ISOs or a Prosuite DVD-only 3 weeks later, I will take ISOs, if I  

have to decide between ISOs or Prosuite DVD about the same time, I will  

take a Prosuite DVD.

 

Mandrakesoft is purely ensuring that people don't take lazy decisions like  

in the past.

 

> Torrents will be available within a day of it going up on the  

> club, I can almost guarantee it.  I'm a club member and that's  

> how I plan on getting my copy, anyway.  In my experience,  

> torrents are faster than the fastest mirror once they get going.

 

I would discourage you from doing this (unless you have some means of  

ensuring that only club members can access the torrent, which at present  

is probably impossible). Sure, you may gain some new friends who download  

the torrent, but will there be another release for them to run?

 

If you want Mandrakesoft to survive, you will want them to be able to  

generate revenue. Building and distributing ISOs will undermine that  

ability. torrent'ing the official ISOs from MandrakeClub will undermine  

that ability. Since I don't have bandwidth (besides to our local ftp  

mirror), I will probably be buying a Prosuite DVD, and will install with  

that for any friends, but I'm not about to rip it to an ISO and put it up  

n said FTP mirror ...

 

If you don't want Mandrakesoft to survive, why do you bother running  

Mandrake?

 

Think about this one carefully ...

 

Regards,

Buchan

i totally agree with the man. i don't think we should be so quick to put up the isos. it's not like there's some pressing need for people to get them. Build up expectation, let 'em want it more then break out the boxes and isos at the same time.

[DOlson]

I think they should release the ISOs at the same time they get the thing into stores.

 

Just my $0.02 Canadian.

[liquidzoo]

That would be a nice way to do it. That way you have the choice of what you wanted to get that day. If you had the money, zip on down to the store and pick up a copy, otherwise download it.

[Guest kuchwas]

Well, there is another way around it with this tip from Distrowatch http://www.distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20030922

titled "How to upgrade to Mandrake Linux 9.2 without re-installing."

 

I did things slightly different after reading the two links in his post:

 

#urpmi urpmi

#urpmi.update -a

#urpmi --auto-select --allow-force --no-verify-rpm --auto

#urpmi kernel

[Falcdragon]

Well if you really want Iso's and can't wait just download cooker right now while it's still in sync with the 9.2 iso's and use mdk's mkcd tool to generate the Isos.

[GodFlesh]

Well, there is another way around it with this tip from Distrowatch  http://www.distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20030922

titled "How to upgrade to Mandrake Linux 9.2 without re-installing."

 

I did things slightly different after reading the two links in his post:

 

#urpmi urpmi

#urpmi.update -a

#urpmi --auto-select --allow-force --no-verify-rpm --auto

#urpmi kernel

 

 

Nice !

why did you chose to use "--allow-force" ?

 

@++

V

[Guest GorGor]

Umm, for whats it worth, I don't have a cd burner and can't afford ADSL/cable etc. So I have never been a cooker iso fan etc

 

So me waits patiently and stealthly for my GPL copy cds from my fav store, in Australia thats www.everythinglinux.com.au and then I grab it. I wants it. Its mine, I tell you all mine, my precious.

[mtweidmann]

I have never understoad why MDK don't sell the download adition from their store. Just the CDs/DVD in a jewel case, with no extras. I have an ADSL connection but it still takes me ages to download all three ISOs, and I'd rather have a single DVD but don't have the hardware. So I end up buying burnt copies for the web, but I'd get them direct from MDK if I could.

[ezroller]

I think they do thier best to give an incentive to be a paying supporter of thier distro. Its not that they don't appreciate the help everyone that does not pay still offers, its just that they want to keep thier paying members (paying-community) happy. You have to appreciate that a vast majority of the people in the club are actually packaging rpm's, voting on what packages are included in the distro (my favorite member priveledge), or in some other way actively and directly contributing to the release long before non paying members of the community ever get a chance to help them out with it.

[Guest kuchwas]

#urpmi urpmi

#urpmi.update -a

#urpmi --auto-select --allow-force --no-verify-rpm --auto

#urpmi kernel

 

 

Nice !

why did you chose to use "--allow-force" ?

 

@++

V

 

I had some Texstar rpms that produced conflicts that caused upgrade failures. This actually took me two tries to get it to work for me. Thank heavan for PartImage!

 

I think the original posting about upgrading this way probably only used Mandrake rpms on the original machine.

 

Tim

[tyme]

I have never understoad why MDK don't sell the download adition from their store.

I thought they did..../me jumps over to the mandrake store....I guess they don't anymore, but they used to I know that (i bought it once). maybe it wasn't making them enough revenue....?

[Guest anon]

Ainsi parlait Nicholas Brown :

> Is this the correct way to upgrade from using 9.1 to using cooker?

> (are other steps needed etc?)

> (existing media are; main,contrib,plf,texstar)

>

>

> urpmi.removemedia -a

> urpmi.addmedia cooker-main

> ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distribution...oker/i586/Mandr

>ake/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz urpmi.addmedia cooker-contrib

> ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distribution...el/contrib/i586 with

> ../../cooker/i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz urpmi.addmedia cooker-plf

> ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/linux/plf/cooker with hdlist.cz urpmi urpmi

> urpmi --auto-select

> urpmi kernel

 

Safer bet:

- urpmi urpmi before removing your medias, to get sure you have latest  

available version for your distro

- urpmi urpmi before urpmi --auto-select, to upgrade it first