MottS Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 Hey .. WHAZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZUP! Ok so I did trash Gentoo and replaced it with MDK 9.2 rc1. The install is WOW .. this boot screen is WOW .. and 'till now it is really stable. I used the hard drive install method .. no need to burn cds. That was fast and easy. So far pretty much nothing has changed since 9.1 exept the installation and the boot screen. There is also a 'Suspend to disk' option in the KDE menu.. doesn't work right away though. My digital camera was automatically detected my Linux .. even created a /mnt/camera by itself with the entry in fstab... I'm impress really. Look at that: dev/sda1 /mnt/camera auto user,codepage=850,kudzu,iocharset=iso8859-15,exec,umask=0,noauto 0 0 The supermount thing is still f'ed up on my system.. nothing new. So here are 4 screenshots for your pleasure community! The install screen .. notice the 9.2 rc1 The boot screen .. WOW KDE 3.1.3 .. bleading edge ;-) Wow .. bleading edge too .. MOttS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidzoo Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 Very nice. Hopefully that suspend to disk option will be available in more than just KDE. If it works, it would be great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shen Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 lmao that boot screen is a rip from suse 8.2..lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoopy Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 OK, gotta ask this: suspend to disk option is this the same as in sleep mode or standby ? Geek --> English translation please. :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvc Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 You're always the first :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theYinYeti Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 suspend to disk same as sleep mode or standby?As far as I know, no. all those modes are only percentages of activity. With suspend to disk, the session (mostly memory) is written somewhere on the disk, and then the computer is really shut down (0% activity): you can even unplug it. Next time you boot, the kernel detects that a session is saved to disk, and instead of booting as usual, it restores this session, and all goes on as before the suspend. Hopefully, we won't have to have a super-new computer to use this option. They might have used a patch like this one: http://swsusp.sourceforge.net/ (wow!! last time I went to their site, it looked abandonned and text-only! They've done a lot of work in 1 year)... Yves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anon Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 . With suspend to disk, the session (mostly memory) is written somewhere on the disk, and then the computer is really shut down (0% activity): you can even unplug it. Next time you boot, the kernel detects that a session is saved to disk, and instead of booting as usual, it restores this session, and all goes on as before the suspend. So as long as you didn't leave alot of open apps, it should boot quicker?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theYinYeti Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 Reboot should always be quicker this way. AFAIK, How much quicker does not depend on the number of applications, but rather on the total memory consuption. Besides, according the the home page (see link on previous post), suspend and restart time both depend a lot on the number of drivers/modules to stop/unload before suspend, and start/load at reboot. Yves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MottS Posted August 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 Hey thanks guys for the little SuspendToDisk tut!! I discovered something new about urpmi. Is this new or I just didn't use RPM distro for too long? .. We can now select which package we want in KDE based package. Let me explain. Usually, if one wants Kmail he has to install kdenetwork. In the same time, he get lots of other shit like korn, kget, etc, etc, etc. But now, we can choose which package we want in the KDE* packages. LOOK: [root@localhost gd]# urpmi kdenetwork Pour satisfaire les dépendances, les paquetages suivants vont être installés (9 Mo): kdenetwork-3.1.3-19mdk.i586 kdenetwork-kdict-3.1.3-19mdk.i586 kdenetwork-kget-3.1.3-19mdk.i586 kdenetwork-kit-3.1.3-19mdk.i586 kdenetwork-kmail-3.1.3-19mdk.i586 kdenetwork-knode-3.1.3-19mdk.i586 kdenetwork-korn-3.1.3-19mdk.i586 kdenetwork-krfb-3.1.3-19mdk.i586 kdenetwork-ksirc-3.1.3-19mdk.i586 kdenetwork-ktalk-3.1.3-19mdk.i586 kdenetwork-kxmlrpcd-3.1.3-19mdk.i586 libkdenetwork2-ksirc-3.1.3-19mdk.i586 Est-ce correct ? (O/n) There we go for Kmail: [root@localhost gd]# urpmi kdenetwork-kmail installation de //mnt/CD2/Mandrake/RPMS2/kdenetwork-kmail-3.1.3-19mdk.i586.rpm Préparation... ################################################## 1:kdenetwork-kmail ################################################## [root@localhost gd]# Wow .. finally! MOttS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dardack Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 i don't know, in 9.1 which i use, when i type say urpmi kdenetwork, it says, packages available with that name in it: (at work not at home so can't quote it) goes back to the prompt and then i can type urpmi kdenetwork-kmail and just install that. My problem is, if i want to say uninstall ALSA, it wants to take almost everything that uses sound with it, that what bites, i mean if i type urpme ALSA, just remove alsa damn it, leave everything else as is, i'll reinstall the cvs version. sigh. it's the same for almost anything, it uninstalls everything else. I wish they would fix that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fubar::chi Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 they did that? that's awesome! they were talking about doing this in cooker after the last release and they actually did it. yay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shen Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 Ya know when I saw that boot screeny I wasn't sure I would like 9.2 but I must say I am definately impressed with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted September 1, 2003 Report Share Posted September 1, 2003 OK, you had time toplay. What else is new ? The suspend to disk etc. I guess could all be done with urpmi kde ?? 9.1 also detects my camera etc. but ... and I ain't figured out why, it stops working after some time? like the devices on the desktop. It never bothered my cos I actually got the fstab entry so I just make a desktop file and use that ... but I hate it when things stop working and I can't figure out why :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MottS Posted September 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2003 OK, you had time toplay.What else is new ? Well, not much 1) The display manager selection (KDM, MdkKDM, GDM, etc.) is now done in System in the MCC rather than Material .. still the wrong place to me. Other than that the MCC hasn't changed. 2) All the apps are updated (Shorewall 1.4.6b, KDE 3.1.3, Apache 2.0.45-5mdk, OpenOffice 1.0.3-2mdk, etc...) The suspend to disk etc. I guess could all be done with urpmi kde ?? It was all set at first boot. But it is not working .. maybe have a problem with my hardware I don't know. The whole thing is done from scripts (+ a patch in the kernel). The script is suspend-scripts-1.6-1mdk. From rpmdrake-remove: /etc/acpi/events/lid/etc/acpi/events/power /etc/pam.d/pmsuspend /etc/security/console.apps/pmsuspend /etc/sysconfig/suspend /etc/sysconfig/suspend-scripts/suspend.control /etc/sysconfig/suspend-scripts/suspend.d /etc/sysconfig/suspend-scripts/suspend.d/anacron /etc/sysconfig/suspend-scripts/suspend.d/beep /etc/sysconfig/suspend-scripts/suspend.d/clock /etc/sysconfig/suspend-scripts/suspend.d/hddisks /etc/sysconfig/suspend-scripts/suspend.d/modules /etc/sysconfig/suspend-scripts/suspend.d/network /etc/sysconfig/suspend-scripts/suspend.d/pcmcia /etc/sysconfig/suspend-scripts/suspend.d/services /etc/sysconfig/suspend-scripts/suspend.d/sound /etc/sysconfig/suspend-scripts/suspend.d/usb /etc/sysconfig/suspend-scripts/suspend.d/xfree /usr/bin/pmsuspend /usr/sbin/pmsuspend /usr/share/doc/suspend-scripts-1.6 /usr/share/doc/suspend-scripts-1.6/ChangeLog /usr/share/doc/suspend-scripts-1.6/README.scripts /usr/share/doc/suspend-scripts-1.6/acpi.sh /usr/share/doc/suspend-scripts-1.6/battery.sh /usr/share/doc/suspend-scripts-1.6/suspend.sh /var/run/pm So from the KDE menu nothing happens (don't know why). If I open a console and type pmsuspend the monitor goes crazy for a sec or two and then the hard drive goes off. However the CPU fan still turns. If I move the mouse, the screen reapear as it was before (with all app and such). If I press the reset button it just reboot as normal .. no the suspend to disk thing does not really work for me (for now). I have read somewhere we have to append something in lilo for it to work (append="resume /dev/hdaX") but this isn't there as we talk. Well, to me they still have to work a bit on that feature. 9.1 also detects my camera etc. but ...and I ain't figured out why, it stops working after some time? like the devices on the desktop. It never bothered my cos I actually got the fstab entry so I just make a desktop file and use that ... but I hate it when things stop working and I can't figure out why :D I was using Gentoo before installing MDK 9.2 rc1 and this distro didn't detect my camera right away. I had to manually put my stuff in fstab and mount it manually. In MDK this is all done automatically .. no need to actually know what the OS does.. funny. well, that's it. MOttS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlc Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 What kernel is it using Motts? I heard something about 2.6test, but I haven't found anything on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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