bvc Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 Also, Debian doesn't use XF86Config-4, it uses XF86Config. :shock: Mine does (Debian Woody>unstable) localhost:~# cat /etc/debian_version testing/unstable localhost:~# uname -a Linux localhost 2.4.20-3-k7 #1 Sun Jul 27 21:10:39 EST 2003 i686 GNU/Linux localhost:~# ls /etc/X11 app-defaults proxymngr sysconfig xfce4 Xsession default-display-manager rgb.txt twm XftConfig Xsession.d fonts rstart X xinit Xsession.options fs sawfish xdm xkb xsm gdm serverconfig XF86Config-4 Xresources xview lbxproxy starthere XF86Config-4~ xserver Xwrapper.config localhost:~# I also use the nvidia installer .run from nvidia.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOlson Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 Mine uses XF86Config... I started with a Woody CD and dist-upgraded to Sid... EDIT: The way it works is it uses either one, with -4 being more prominent. If you only have XFree86 4.X on your system, you only need one or the other, and I prefer the simpler approach of dropping the -4 from the name... That's the way it was meant to be, and the -4 was added because people were sticking both X versions on their system. Plus, the Debian guys that were helping me at the time told me to not use -4. And just now, a Gentoo user told me to ditch the -4 as well. :) EDIT2: Now I remember having problems editing one config and X was using the other, so I just deleted them both and used the one that was created by xf86config and then I didn't have to worry about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvc Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 Did you start with the 2.2 or 2.4 kernel? I started with the 2.4.....don't know if that matters. I started woody cd 1 and did the rest with apt-get/synaptic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOlson Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 I did the same as you. I just did a base install using the bf24 boot option, no extra stuff until after I got to a console prompt and edited my apt sources and then I dist-upgraded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83mercedes Posted August 18, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 I did the bf24 thing as well, and now I am double-sure I have the kernel-source installed (I tried to apt-get it again), and I installed kernel-headers just in case, nvidia (latest) still complains about no kernel-source. I will also try deleting all the XFConfigs, then using the one I make... I can't help but wonder if I shouldn't have just hit 'enter' to go with a 'safe' install?, instead of bf24? Tonight, I will mess with this, and look at all the posted suggestions here again to see if I can't get nvidia installed. I remember well- my first linux was mandrake 8.1, and I had a hard time getting Nvidia installed on that, too, but thanks to all you guys, It happened, and I've been hooked on linux ever since! Good Morning. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlc Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 If you go with the 2.2 kernel approach, you will have less hardware support &, I could be wrong on this but you might only have ext2 FS support, maybe ext3?? Certianly not reiserfs if you use it, you wont be able to. Also, you might want to follow this for your first install(re-install) :wink: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=2016&page=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlc Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 Also, check these links out. http://www.badoual.org/dir/repositorium/de...-deb.html.xhtml http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/sh...&threadid=74279 The easiest way would be to apt-get a new kernel.I never did that when I used debian.Just did it the ond fashioned way and got the kernel from http://www.kernel.org There is a how-to there.Just have a look at your kernel.log in /var/log and do a modprobe to see what modules are loaded by the kernel - you'll need those with the new kernel. If I where you and never compiled a kernel I would try it with apt-get.If you don't have it you might consider installing 'synaptic' as a grphical frontend to apt to see what options you got there (there are a lot of different kernels available for debian). For nvidia, I would point you back to these links too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83mercedes Posted August 18, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 That's a great link, I think I'll print out that whole article! Thanks again! See ya tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlc Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 Your welcome, I liked the idea of starting off bare bones and building upon that, no BLOAT when your putting what you want on there! :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvc Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 After you install the kernel-source>ls /usr/src. Because if I remember correctly it only places the bz2 there and doesn't uncompress it. DOlson or cybrjackle could probably confirm whether I'm rt or wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlc Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 After you install the kernel-source>ls /usr/src. Because if I remember correctly it only places the bz2 there and doesn't uncompress it. DOlson orcybrjackle could probably confirm whether I'm rt or wrong though. Sorry, can't cofirm or deny that. It's been awhile. But like you say, #ls /usr/src will let you know right away. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOlson Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 I get the source myself, I patch it myself, and I make the debs myself. Here's my process: su cd /usr/src/ wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2....-2.4.21.tar.bz2 tar jxvf linux-2.4.21.tar.bz2 wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/peo...-2.4.21-1.patch cd linux-2.4.21/ patch -p1 < ../preempt-kernel-rml-2.4.21-1.patch make menuconfig # here I configure the kernel how I want it. make-kpkg clean kernel_image kernel_headers modules_clean modules_image cd .. dpkg -i kernel-image-2.4.21-preempt_10.00.Custom_i386.deb kernel-headers-2.4.21-preempt_10.00.Custom_i386.deb # plus any other debs that were made for the optional modules, such as ALSA. # here I manually add the boot entry to Grub and then I reboot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83mercedes Posted August 19, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2003 OK, that tutorial link really helped, I reinstalled Debian from scratch, and got into x by using the 'vesa' option, after taking the author's advice and getting windowmaker, and 'synaptic' which is really cool, downloaded Mozilla with it! Now, for the bummer, I did 'apt-get install kde' and now I can't log in to x anymore, the kde splash screen comes up and loads about half-way, then the screen pops off, and the Debian log-in comes back up. I can't figure how to get to a command prompt here, it won't let me... So guys, what's up here? If I can get to a prompt I guess I could do 'apt-get remove kde', right? Or will that let me use windowmaker again? Thanks again, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvc Posted August 19, 2003 Report Share Posted August 19, 2003 Do you get some popups about the X server then it gets disabled? Can you Ctrl>Alt>F2 to get to a command prompt? Have you tried to boot "(recovery mode)"/ init 1? Which bootloader and which distro is the bootloader on? In debian's grub there's an entry for (recovery mode). I don't about lilo. In grub, the option to append is single (for single user mode). example from grub's menu.lst title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.20-3-k7 (recovery mode) root (hd0,7) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-3-k7 root=/dev/hda8 ro single initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.4.20-3-k7 savedefault boot How to use with lilo?...I d/k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83mercedes Posted August 19, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2003 Thanks, it's lilo... No popups, just crahes the xserver...then I get the login prompt again... I will try 'ctrl alt f2', (I used to know that!) and the recovery mode...I still don't get why it does this with kde? :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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