LordFalcon Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Hey guys, well I want to try Mandriva on my desktop but it keeps freezing after I see the loading bar at the bottom. I have tried booting it in different ways mentioned in this forum with the burnt disk but it freezes at the exact spot every single time. I was also curious what was happening so I decided to see the text version of the install with no background and it freezes on the line "starting udev:" Is there a way to fix this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Try shutting down/unplugging any peripherals you have on the puter. If it is a laptop, try booting using the regular troubleshooting switches, like "acpi=off" and "nopcmcia" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Just for adding transparency here: udev is the service that manages the peripherals attached to your computer (keyboard, usb-printer, external harddisks, ...). It will go into an endless loop, trying to add a peripheral that possibly is not supported by the linux-kernel. This is what you experience as the system "hanging". Do as scarecrow suggested. If it still freezes, please give us the Mandriva version and media you are trying to install (DVD/LiveCD), as well as some hardware specs. And welcome aboard. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordFalcon Posted September 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 (edited) It still froze each time and all I had attached was the monitor and keyboard, also I tried the troubleshooting switches mentioned but nothing worked. I had downloaded and burnt the "Mandriva Linux One 2008 Spring Edition" from the official website and had burnt the disk image onto a dvd, all I want to try is their live cd (would there be a difference if i burned it onto a cd than i dvd?) Thanks for greeting me it's been awhile I've actually talked on a forum and I would like to try Mandriva out very soon Edited September 18, 2008 by LordFalcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordFalcon Posted September 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 (edited) Here is the info about my computer: --------[ Summary ]----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer: Computer Type ACPI x86-based PC Operating System Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic OS Service Pack Service Pack 1 Internet Explorer 7.0.6001.18000 DirectX DirectX 10.0 Motherboard: CPU Type Intel Celeron D, 3466 MHz Motherboard Name ECS 945GCT-M3 (2 PCI, 1 PCI-E x1, 1 PCI-E x16, 2 DDR2 DIMM, Audio, Video, LAN) Motherboard Chipset Intel Lakeport-G i945GC System Memory 2560 MB BIOS Type Award (02/15/07) Communication Port Communications Port (COM1) Communication Port Communications Port (COM2) Communication Port Printer Port (LPT1) Display: Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce 6200 TurboCache (64 MB) Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce 6200 TurboCache (64 MB) 3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce 6200 TurboCache Monitor Generic PnP Monitor [NoDB] (LEM790201325) Multimedia: Audio Adapter Intel 82801GB ICH7 - High Definition Audio Controller [A-1] Storage: IDE Controller Intel® 82801G (ICH7 Family) Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 27DF IDE Controller Intel® 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller - 27C0 Storage Controller Microsoft iSCSI Initiator Storage Controller SCSI/RAID Host Controller Disk Drive Generic USB CF Reader USB Device Disk Drive Generic USB MS Reader USB Device Disk Drive Generic USB SD Reader USB Device Disk Drive Generic USB SM Reader USB Device Disk Drive ST3120813AS ATA Device (120 GB, 7200 RPM, SATA-II) Optical Drive NI2650N WYY282Q SCSI CdRom Device Optical Drive TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H652D ATA Device (DVD+R9:8x, DVD-R9:8x, DVD+RW:18x/8x, DVD-RW:18x/6x, DVD-RAM:12x, DVD-ROM:16x, CD:48x/32x/48x DVD+RW/DVD-RW/DVD-RAM) SMART Hard Disks Status Unknown Partitions: C: (NTFS) 103057 MB (11559 MB free) D: (NTFS) 11413 MB (7797 MB free) Total Size 111.8 GB (18.9 GB free) Input: Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse PS/2 Compatible Mouse Network: Primary IP Address 172.16.0.1 Primary MAC Address 00-16-01-B2-11-A7 Network Adapter Nintendo Wi-Fi USB Connector (172.16.0.1) Network Adapter Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC (192.168.1.136) Modem PCI Soft Data Fax Modem with SmartCP Peripherals: Printer Adobe PDF Printer Lexmark X5100 Series Printer Microsoft XPS Document Writer Printer Send To OneNote 2007 USB1 Controller Intel 82801GB ICH7 - USB Universal Host Controller [A-1] USB1 Controller Intel 82801GB ICH7 - USB Universal Host Controller [A-1] USB1 Controller Intel 82801GB ICH7 - USB Universal Host Controller [A-1] USB1 Controller Intel 82801GB ICH7 - USB Universal Host Controller [A-1] USB2 Controller Intel 82801GB ICH7 - Enhanced USB2 Controller [A-1] USB Device Lexmark X5100 Series USB Device Multimedia Card Reader USB Device Nintendo Wi-Fi USB Connector USB Device USB Composite Device USB Device USB Human Interface Device USB Device USB Printing Support DMI: DMI BIOS Vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD DMI BIOS Version 6.00 PG DMI System Manufacturer Gateway DMI System Product W3619 DMI System Version 100 DMI System Serial Number GCJ7410005518 DMI System UUID FEFEFEFE-FEFEFEFE-FEFEFEFE-FEFEFEFE DMI Motherboard Manufacturer ELITEGROUP DMI Motherboard Product 945GCT-M3 DMI Motherboard Version 3.0 DMI Motherboard Serial Number 945G DMI Chassis Manufacturer 945G DMI Chassis Version 945G-M3 DMI Chassis Serial Number DMI Chassis Asset Tag DMI Chassis Type Desktop Case DMI Total / Free Memory Sockets 2 / 1 Edited September 19, 2008 by arctic removed personal information for security reasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Sadly, I don't have much time on my hands right now to examine all your hardware. After some research I found out that your motherboard is apparently not the problem (quite often, brand-new hardware is not perfectly supported out of the box). I wonder if perhaps your card reader might cause the lockup. (Maybe you and someone other users can simply google for some of your hardware + keyword linux or mandriva or fedora or ubuntu. The easiest way to find out if there are known hardware-issues). (...off to work! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSurfer60 Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 At a guess, if you have none of the USB devices plugged in, udev is trying to initialize a device that is not there. Check dmesg to see if there is any errors listed or, try plugging in each device one by one and see if one of them makes a difference. I know that may be a long winded job, but that would be my troubleshooting approach. Unless someone can say which device it would be of course. If you can come up with an answer you will be at the cutting edge and can be a leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordFalcon Posted September 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 (edited) I've just finished plugging in each device one by one and it did not make a difference, but interestingly enough it takes a little while longer for the boot to freeze on the same error. Also what is this "dmesg" that you mention and how do I use it to get errors, I've searched google but found nothing and currently doing what arctic suggested. PS: After trying to pay attention on the booting process right before the error I've seen this weird command: Not activating Mandatory Access Control now since /sbin/css-init doesn't doesn't exist Is this bad? Edited September 19, 2008 by LordFalcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSurfer60 Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 I forgot you say that your 'puter freezes, how long have you waited before restarting? I suggest waiting a while (upto 60secs) and I think udev will resolve and complete the boot process. Once at the desktop then for dmesg open a console and type the command dmesg This will give you the sequence of events during the boot process. Check for anything to do with udev that is reported/failed. Don't worry about the Mandatory Access Control report, I get this without causing problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordFalcon Posted September 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Hey I've tried again plugging the devices in one by one and waiting about four minutes during the boot to see if it does something else but it still freezes on the same spot. :sad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSurfer60 Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 The next step then would be to boot into safe mode, once you are at the single user command prompt type init 3 this should boot to run level 3. If that is a success log in with your user name and password and check dmesg that way. If you freeze again restart and boot to safe mode. At the single user command prompt type less /var/log/syslog This will be rather a long text log so when this is on your screen hit 'End' which will take you to the end of the log. From there using the Page Up key search through the log for the time you restarted your computer and check, the lines above this point, for what udev is doing. Hopefully you will find a clue in the form of an error statement, or an 'oops' statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhn Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Could it be a bad burn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordFalcon Posted September 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 I redownloaded it from the official website twice and downloaded it through utorrent once and each time I burned it I got the same error booting the disk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 I did some more research on your problem and apparently, there does exist a bug that is somehow related to your Nvidia-card. /sbin/css-init led me to several Mandriva related posts where systems hung up at booting/installing, just like yours. Apparently, the problem is already reported in bugzilla and a fix is hopefully available when Mandriva 2009.0 comes out (Someone wrote that there is a fix in Cooker for it, but you won't be able to make use of it without a working base system - or some expert-knowledge on Mandriva). I would - in your case - just wait a bit and try Mdv 2009 or - if you want to play around - try for now if another distro is able to boot on your hardware. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordFalcon Posted September 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 I've finished tried what SilverSurfer60 had suggested and it did freeze again and I wasn't to clear what he was trying to say in the second part. Nevertheless from what Arctic has told me is really a shame as I was really looking forward to trying Mandriva out and the moment I get a laptop I will try Mandriva out on there. Thanks to everyone for helping me out you've all been so nice but for now I will see if I can try ubuntu and other distros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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