highking Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Hi, I'm a crewmember of the Dutch Mandriva Club, and have been involved with MCNLive a bit in the past few releases (I am the creator of the graphical remaster script for instance). Now, with Chris gone MCNLive can simply be declared dead... :( Problem is, we have no-one who really understands the mklivecd scripts, and the Mandriva boot process for that matter. We have a few people (including myself) on the MCNL board that understand how to create a live cd with the help of a working mklivecd script, but simply no-one who can update the mklivecd that much that it will work for MDV2008.x/2009.x again. This really gives an idea how much knowledge Chris had (or still has) about the whole kernel and boot process. I have tried to build a live cd from a Mandriva 2008.0 and 2008.1 system, but failed miserably... since this already have cost me a lot of time, I decided to stop trying. I'd love to see a new MCNLive again... but I simply can't do it as I don't have all of Chris' knowledge. Besides that it seemed as if I was the only one even trying, which was very frustrating... I now understand how Chris must have felt, doing things all by herself. Now, with the upcoming 2009.0 release, I figured it would be very cool to have a working live cd again. Not like One, but like the 'old' MCNLive. MCNLive was by far superior to One, as it has much more features (think about creating remasters, copy2ram, etc.). Problem is I still don't understand enough about the boot process to deal with this myself, and I just don't have enough spare time to figure it out myself. But without this 'base', we simply cannot continue. So the actual question here is: Is there anyone who has managed to create a live cd off of a Mandriva 2008.x system, that wishes to share his or her knowledge with us? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexter11 Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Never tried it myself but I know that Mandriva is using their own utility called draklive to create live CDs. Anyway did you read this topic: https://mandrivausers.org/index.php?showtopic=44188 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highking Posted August 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 I know, and yes I've read the topic... I even have replied to it then, but they didn't realy like my reply :D Draklive is not really an option, since it cannot create live cd's from an installed system, and as such we are not able to do any configuration. Besides, draklive documentation is very poor, despite of many people (including myself) asking for understandable documentation... :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindwave Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 high you arent the only person working, bookie and i are trying it as well. unfortunately with my job and other responsibilities its not an all day every day chore. i can understand chris retiring due to time constraints i just wish she could have documented her process better so we all could have learned from it. but i do know she was leaning towartds draklive and re writing the existing scripts. PCLOS really caught my attention, but they are stuck on 2007 as well j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamw Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 PCLOS is a branch of Mandriva. They rebased off Mandriva 2007 a couple of years back but they've diverged quite a lot since then. What PCLOS is now is not Mandriva 2007 or Mandriva 2008 or any other kind of Mandriva, it's a distinct thing by itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 In the sources of 2008.1 is a programm called "mklivecd", here is a description of it mklivecd - Builds a LiveCD from an existing Mandriva Linux installation​ it seems that it can make it on a usb-stick. Maybe this works for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindwave Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 unfortunately mklivecd is a generic set of util/scripts that ARE used in the remastering process, unfortunately its not as easy as "mklivecd MYSYSTEM" it SHOULD be, but its not sigh j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highking Posted August 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 In the sources of 2008.1 is a programm called "mklivecd", here is a description of it mklivecd - Builds a LiveCD from an existing Mandriva Linux installation​ it seems that it can make it on a usb-stick. Maybe this works for you. Willliiiiiieeeeeeeeee! No, mklivecd is broken, this is the tool Chris has been using to create MCNLive :D i can understand chris retiring due to time constraints i just wish she could have documented her process better so we all could have learned from it.Please understand that mklivecd is not a product Chris created. She maintained the scripts for Mandriva, but she has not written the scripts from scratch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindwave Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 Please understand that mklivecd is not a product Chris created. She maintained the scripts for Mandriva, but she has not written the scripts from scratch. I I understand that completely, but to understand the thought process behind what was being done wiould have helped a LOT. j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 Willliiiiiieeeeeeeeee! Hey, MMMMMMMMMMMMMMichellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll. B) Long time no hear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pitofero Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 (edited) I have come pretty close to making a live cd with draklive... Right when i reach the end something always goes wrong though...has anyone gotten past the install on the Xephyr screen? and then created an ISO? Maybe we could share what we are doing? Also I am pretty familiar with the way Draklive works, took me awhile to learn it Edited September 2, 2008 by pitofero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindwave Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 if youre interested in writing a short step by step for draklive in either open office or word, I'd be glad to post it to the Linux portion of my site, along with my Roll Your Own 2007.1 and Verizon 5750 USB Modem: http://www.thehess.org/linux.html Jerome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pitofero Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Will do, is there anyone else though who has tried draklive...I found why it fails...and there is no way for me to fix this...somehow draklive fails because it is looking for draklive and/or draklive installer in the Xephyr mount to complete I have searched and they are not there and nor can you install them from the draklive installer on the Xephyr window even with my written documentation if this cannot be figured out then its useless :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest linlove Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 I was also trying to make Live CD from mandriva 2008 but no success. When I copied all the scripts and done a final reboot, my system failed to start. Actually the starting of HAL daemon and atd failed and the System was up without X. I tried startx and kdeinit but no use. Initially before booting it told me some problem about rc.sysinit. /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit: line 120: /etc/init.d/udev: No such file or directory. and another FATAL: Module ip_set is not found. So, finally I am leaving it now. I think I should try some different method in other distribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindwave Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 thats interesting, I tried to install beta 2 last night of 2009 and came up w/ the same 2 errors. since rc1 is out i'll scrap beta2 and try rc1 tonight j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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