Guest frew Posted October 25, 2002 Report Share Posted October 25, 2002 Yeah, I just got reminded about the holy wars from the post asking about a good C IDE. Anyway, I was thinking it might be nice to discuss our opinions about vi and emacs. Let's try to stay sane with this and not start a flamewar as those usually suck. Try to use those smileys or something if you are being sarcastic. Oh and as for my opinion. I like vi/m but I would like to use emacs more in the future since it is a really nice OS :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzylizard Posted October 25, 2002 Report Share Posted October 25, 2002 Both are complicated and easy to use. I know emacs, a little, and would like to learn vi/m as well. I think it is best to know your way around both editors. When you sit down in front of a strange computer, you won't know which is installed. The one thing that I like about emacs is that added information on the screen and the fact that you can subdivide the window allowing you to work in the shell (shell buffer) and work with a config file/program/text document at the same time. If you are using a desktop, this point may not mean much. But if you have to sit down at a computer that is only running a shell, it can save considerable time. On the other hand, if you are using a small screen where space is everything, the minimalistic approach of vi makes for more characters on the screen. There, my two cents worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiedra Posted October 25, 2002 Report Share Posted October 25, 2002 I've only used vi and I like it. Haven't gotten into emacs, but I play around with it when I have some more time. Here's my smiley! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest itti Posted October 25, 2002 Report Share Posted October 25, 2002 i´m having a hard time getting vi worked out... and i never used emacs so i asume vi is better and l33ter of course. btw there are coffee cups available that have all the vi commands printed on them... i´ll probably get one in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willisoften Posted October 25, 2002 Report Share Posted October 25, 2002 Vim is mostly OK I'm not much on emacs I think its a bit too much program for its own good. I'm happy enough using any text editor at the moment. On Windows I really like UltraEdit. I wish something like it was available for Linux. Suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thayne Posted October 25, 2002 Report Share Posted October 25, 2002 I like Pico myself :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Counterspy Posted October 25, 2002 Report Share Posted October 25, 2002 I decided that emacs would be the one I would try to learn so I downloaded the docs from the Gnu site. The result was a manual in HTML that was two inches thick. When poeple say it is an operating system, not just and editor, they weren't kidding. My progress with it has been very slow since the one thing it isn't is intuitive. Counterspy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystified Posted October 25, 2002 Report Share Posted October 25, 2002 I use vi. I looked at emacs. All I have to say is :shock: :lol: I know this is offtopic and I'm a moderator and setting a bad example (shhh don't tell the other mods) but frew your avatar would make an awesome tattoo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzylizard Posted October 25, 2002 Report Share Posted October 25, 2002 The one editor that I am starting to use in both windows and Linux is jEdit - www.jedit.org. It is an excellent editor with almost the same power as emacs and a more intuitive, gui, interface. It is entirely written in Java - so only get it if you have a faster machine with lots of ram - and is very fast. It understands java, pearl, html, css, php, and many more languages. (Understands means that it will do proper text highlighting for that language) When using it with html, it even supports proper code completion. The editor also contains a plug-in architecture allowing developers to increase the functionality of the program. So, if the core editor does not support your language, or what you want to do, you can either write a plug-in for it, or download one off the net. Another nice feature is that it will auto update any installed plugins. You need to start the process, but it will keep itself up to date. Some nice little extra plug-in additions for the program are shell support and irc support. Very cool program that I strongly suggest everyone download. One more thing, it is also open source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest frew Posted October 26, 2002 Report Share Posted October 26, 2002 I use vi. I looked at emacs. All I have to say is :shock: :lol: I know this is offtopic and I'm a moderator and setting a bad example (shhh don't tell the other mods) but frew your avatar would make an awesome tattoo! Haha thanks much. I am glad this hasn't escalated into any falme wars as I thought it might. The thing that is weird is that allthough many people claim that emacs is easier, I find it really hard to use now tha I am used to vi. I like being able to just be like arg :x and saving and closing and stuff, oh and vi CAN do split screens, the command is <esc> :split.(maybe vim only) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiedra Posted October 26, 2002 Report Share Posted October 26, 2002 I find vi very easy to use, granted i've only used that editor and not others. As for flame wars, some people can be hardcore about what they use. I say whatever works for you is best for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOlson Posted October 27, 2002 Report Share Posted October 27, 2002 vim or gvim for coding and general config file editing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiedra Posted October 27, 2002 Report Share Posted October 27, 2002 Welcome back DOlson! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamCat Posted November 4, 2002 Report Share Posted November 4, 2002 btw there are coffee cups available that have all the vi commands printed on them... i´ll probably get one in the near future. I need one of those! :) I can never remember the vi commands. :roll: vi is what I started learning mainly because the IS guy at work uses vi. I figured one day I would give emacs a whirl but I think this thread cured me of that desire. ;) vi is working just fine. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyv Posted November 5, 2002 Report Share Posted November 5, 2002 I use kwite for my php/html/xml code. I dont care about it much as long as it's got code highlighting for the langauge im using. Oh and as long as it shows the line number your cursor is on. If i find something i like better i will use it. :) :) :) :) :) :D :D :D :D happy enough for ya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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