ac_dispatcher Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Hello all, I have a AMD X2 5600+. From past experience I always just downloaded the 32bit distro disks. questions: 1. Is the 64bit version of <insert Distro> really faster than the 32 bit? Can you see the difference? 2. How large is the package repos for 64bit compared to 32? Say for Mandy. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think you can run 32bit packages on a 64 system - right? If so do you run into to many problems with it? Isnt there issues with flash or java when it comes to the 64bit packages? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Scrimpshire Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 There are issues with the java plugin on 64-bit systems, but I just installed the 32-bit Firefox and used the 32-bit java-plugin. (If I remember correctly, I was able to work around the problems with 64-bit Flash. I'm not running 64-bit ATM.) There are equally as many pkgs available for 64-bit and 32-bit AFAIK. Even if not, you can always install *.src.rpms. It may have been my imagination, but the 64-bit install seemed to me to be quite a bit faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artificial Intelligence Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 +1 to what Steve says. AFAIK 64-bit distros comes with 32-bit flash in wrapping so it works with 64-bit browsers. In the next version of Sun Java will be 64-bit supported or use IcedTea instead. You can get the same stuff on 64-bit as in 32-bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking777 Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 I have a 64bit processor, and I use both 32bit and 64bit operating systems. I find it impossible to detect any speed difference between the two. Having said that I have never done any proper benchmarking to prove it one way or the other and I never deal with heavy graphics files like movie editing. I do edit photos but there is no discernible difference there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 64-bit packages are some 15-20% larger than the 32-bit ones... but this is not a rule. With your 4 GB of RAM, the 64-bit version will be a tad slower than the 32-bit one. If you upgrade to 8 GB, and change all your hardware to pure 64-bit capable one (that is- not JUST the CPU, but also mainboard, GPU, etc), then the 64-bit version will be somewhat faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac_dispatcher Posted April 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Thanks a bunch for the input - I think Ill try a few different distros and arch for time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iphitus Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 There's not much, if anything to gain from x86_64 for the average user, except maybe headaches with flash/java/codecs/closed source. x86_64 uses more ram, and takes up more room too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artificial Intelligence Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 On newer models that run 64-bit it should be a problem ;) Don't Average users editing pictures, movies etc. ? There's a big boost to do so on 64bit. But if if we're talking about browser and e-mail, minesweeping I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aRTee Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 I did some benchmarking, read my 2008.0 review. Bottomline: depends on what you do with your machine, in most cases the machine is waiting for you, so you'll never notice. With a stopwatch in hand you may be able to tell the difference, it's not always the 64 bit that wins the race though. I just run 64 bit whenever I can out of spite, since windows users can't (unless they accept much worse hardware compatibility issues then Linux users have lately) - except for Vista users, but then anyone worth his salt knows Vista's a dud anyway - 32 bit Linux will outshine Vista in 32 or 64 bit on the same hardware anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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