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Hah.. nice... if I could access it as a normal user. What's that now AI? Are you locking users out? Why?

 

 

Just checked. It was closed due to some members went bananas (I didn't checked the replies of the post, but have now) a year ago. A kid thought it was wrong that parents was/is filtering the web for their kids. So a huge flamewar started.

 

Here's the link: http://freshmeat.net/projects/dansguardian/

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Even though my kid's ubuntu is working fine, I'm gonna open up his computer and reverse the master/slave on the 2 drives. I bought him a new 80GB drive before installing ubuntu, but I left win2k on his old 6GB drive and made the new big drive the slave. Made a 10GB partition on it for llinux, the rest for windows.

 

It made win2k extremely slooooow. Clicking on Browse for Other Folders, or clicking on My Computer pretty much started taking about 5 minutes for something to happen. The ubuntu side works fine though.

 

Anyway I'm gonna make the 80GB Master and the 6GB slave, make the 80GB NTFS and reinstall win2k on it. Make the 6GB slave and let ubuntu use it all.

 

I think I goofed up in the original ubuntu install. My kid will have no "home" files - spreadsheets, docs, pics or stuff like that. He will just be installing variious games. A small /home should be enough right?

 

First install, I think I gave probably 50/50 to "/" and /home. Programs (games) get installed in /, right, not /home ?

 

I've always given myself a huge /home, since I'm into digital pics, mp3s, digital video, blah blah.

 

Also, I used an old d/l on ubuntu (5.10). Should I d/l the new "dapper drake" or can I still install 5.10 and then get online and "roll" it to dapper? I know we had this conversation in the "rolling distro" thread...

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Well it's much saver to do a clean install.

 

 

To upgrade. Make sure you have ubuntu-desktop metapackage installed. Now to the sourcelist:

 

gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"

 

replace the list with this:

 

## All officially supported packages, including security- and other updates

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted

deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted

 

## The source packages (only needed to recompile existing packages)

#deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted

#deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted

#deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted

 

## All community supported packages, including security- and other updates

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse

deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse

 

## The source packages (only needed to recompile existing packages)

#deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse

#deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse

#deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse

 

Save and exit.

 

 sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

 

When done upgrading reboot.

If it went well hit for http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic to set up a complete sourcelist (universe, multiverse,PLF etc. etc.etc.) Just pick the stuff you want.

 

 

 

I'll properly go for

/boot = ~50 mb

/ = 20 GB

/home = 59 GB

/swap = ~1 GB depending how much ram you have.

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I'll properly go for

/boot = ~50 mb

/ = 20 GB

/home = 59 GB

/swap = ~1 GB depending how much ram you have.

 

I'm only gonna make his 6GB drive for linux. During the first install last week, I made the above directories, but I remember not doing the /swap. I wasn't sure how to make that one. It let me make /boot, and / and /home, but not /swap... or maybe I needed to do that one differently? I made a /swap in other distro installs, but the ubuntu was the only one I didn't.

 

for a 6 GB drive, something like this:

 

/boot = 50MB

/ = 4GB

/home = 1.? GB (whatever's left)

/swap = 512 MB

 

He's got one of my old machines - P-III 1GHz, 256 RAM, 64 MB nVidia. He's gonna have all his big games on the windows drive - 80 GB. On linux, he'll probably just want a few games: cube, sauerbraten, and he want's Americas Army (if that's a freebie?)

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ubuntu is a little different than I'm used to. I don't like not being able to add or remove packages during install. Also, it is always asking for the "user" password when I screw around with stuff - doesn't ask for root. And it took me a couple minutes to even find "teminal" - wasn't in an obvious location. Anyway, it seems like a good distro so far.

 

I reinstalled win2k, on the 80 GB master, and ubuntu on the slave. This time I just told it to "use the entire slave drive" so no manual partitioning was needed.

 

Something's wrong with our modem or router, so our internet connection dissapears every couple minutes. I can't do the apt sources and upgrading yet, as A.I. suggested. Will wait till the internet connection problem is fixed.

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Well. If you want to add/remove packages you could go for Server installation. It installs absolutly minimal, no Desktop, browser etc. But other than that in my opinion Ubuntu is quiet minimal when it comes to installed package by default. One browser, one e-mail client etc.

 

If you don't want to sudo all the time make a new launcher and add this command:

 

gksu /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator

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I finally got around to hooking my kid's machine back to the internet temporarily, and then I replaced the sources.list with what A.I. suggested, then did the update && dist-upgrade.

 

Took quite a while, but went flawlessly. Rolled from breezy to dapper without any work at all, got upgraded versions of everything available, such as firefox. I don't know what kernel breezy came with, but now my son has 2.6, which is newer than my 2.4 on mandriva 2006.

 

I'm jealous. I'm gonna have to make my mandriva machine an ubuntu box... I can really get used to this "rolling" stuff...

 

thanks a.i.

 

when I give my kid the internet permanently, I'll try to get the Dans Guardian set up.

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I just got through installing tons of games with synaptic. Many were not put in the menu under games.

 

For example, doom, quake2, and a few others. The games appear to be installed all over the place, and I'm not sure how to play doom or quake2. Shouldn't synaptic make the games playable, and findable ?

 

I also used synaptic to install the nvidia-glx driver. Formerly, sauerbraten (cube 2) played so slow as to be totally unplayable. Now, after installing the driver, it doesn't play at all - just gives an error message.

 

init: sdl
init: enet
init: video: mode
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Unable to create OpenGL screen: Couldn't find matching GLX visual

 

thanks for any tips on playing doom, quake2, and on the nvidia error...

 

hmm....well,I could figure out the glx thing tomorrow, its late now....

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Which nvidia card do you have? The reason is that there's two kind of drivers: 1: Nvidia-glx 2: Nvidia-glx-legacy. Legacy is for older cards (driver v. 7174) where the normal driver works for newer cards (driver v. 8762).

 

When done use the sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, if it says or don't work. You'll need to do manually.

 

sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf

 

Change:

Section "Device"
Identifier	 "NVIDIA Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600/GeForce 6600 GT]" (this is my card, you'll properly looks diffrent)
Driver		 "nv"
EndSection

 

to

 

Section "Device"
Identifier	 "NVIDIA Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600/GeForce 6600 GT]"
Driver		 "nvidia"
EndSection

 

Save & Exit.

reboot.

 

 

I just got through installing tons of games with synaptic. Many were not put in the menu under games.

 

For example, doom, quake2, and a few others. The games appear to be installed all over the place, and I'm not sure how to play doom or quake2. Shouldn't synaptic make the games playable, and findable ?

 

I havn't those games though, but try start them from the terminal.

Also download the latest Alacarte Menu Editor for Dapper so you can change your menues: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=163272 Just double click the .deb to install it.

 

 

Also check my game howtos on installing the latest and greatest, I'll add a new howto every week or if you have any requests just send a tell :) -

Games: http://gaming.gwos.org/index.php?option=co...3&Itemid=63

Game related stuff: http://gaming.gwos.org/index.php?option=co...4&Itemid=63

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In synaptic, doom & quake appeared to be the linux versions of the "shareware" versions. Yes, there were more than one doom & quake - synaptic also had the other stuff too. In other words, when installing doom or quake in synaptic, you had to mark several things.

 

A.I. - yes I did check what nvidia card my son had, before installing the driver. I installed the correct "nvidia-glx" driver. His card (geforce3 TI-200) is listed under the "glx" cards, not the "legacy" cards...

 

I figured the "nv" "nvidia" thing was what it was. I remember how to fix that from back when I had to do it all the time with Fedora. I try the "enable" thing now...

 

edit: ok, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable worked great

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