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Installed Arch 0.7.1 in a vmware session, base installation. Followed this with:

 

pacman -Syu

 

to fully upgrade the system. I then followed this with:

 

pacman -Sy kde

 

which then downloaded and installed KDE. I couldn't do startx, so I thought something was missing and did:

 

pacman -Sy xorg

 

and that installed a bit more, and I could now use startx. I first ran xorgcfg -textmode to configure xorg, and this worked OK. I chose VMware as the video module, and then tried to run. It said vmware module didn't exist. So I changed to generic vesa, and now I get an error about it unable to find speedo. What is speedo and how do I get rid of this error? What do I need to install?

 

I'm presuming that vmware module doesn't exist, because something isn't configured into the kernel so just trying to see if I need to recompile kernel to find this.

 

Also, can't get ssh to work either.

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The new version 7.0 of xorg is modular, so

pacman -S xorg

does not install everything needed.

http://www.archlinux.org/packages.php

Look there for all related packages, doing a query for "xorg" and install everything needed.

The Arch wiki should be very useful:

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg7

And, there's also an Arch specific way for quick xorg configuration, which mostly works:

 

pacman -S hwd lshwd

 

hwd -x

 

cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.hwd /etc/X11/xorg.conf

 

The autogenerated xorg.conf mostly works. And yes, there is a vmware display module in the auxiliary xorg packages, but I can't remember which one, sorry... I will lok for it later.

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OK, managed to get KDE running. I searched for vmware in the packages, and then installed that, and then I removed the line for speedo by commenting it out.

 

I then realised that part of my problem was that the default .xinitrc was wanting to load wmaker, and I didn't install that, so I edited this and changed it to exec startkde, and then I was pretty much sorted after that.

 

Just sorted ssh as well, was just a case of editing the hosts.allow file so that I could gain access.

 

It seems pretty quick too, even considering I'm just running in a vmware session with 256MB ram.

 

One question I have. If I want to view installable packages, do I really have to go to the web and do it? Can't I just get a list of packages by issuing a command at the console prompt. For example, the Arch equivalent to:

 

urpmf --name kde

 

will list all apps with kde in their name. I just wondered if there was a similar functionality. I know browsing a webpage is easy enough, but if I was to build a system without browsing functionality, it would make it difficult to install packages unless I had a second system to browse from, and then switch back to the main machine.

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pacman -Ss packagename

See also here:

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman

Mentioning also that not everything is CLI in Arch. There are no less than four frontends for pacman (all unofficial):

- pacmenu (ncurses based)

- guzuta and gtkpacman (gtk based)

- jacman (java based)

Also the GUI package manager from Frugalware (= Slackware with pacman as manager and Arch-style packages) is said to work with Arch, although I've not messed with it yet.

All are very small with few dependencies, so you can toy with them at leisure...

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I did check the man page as well as the --help parameter or typing pacman alone, but didn't really show anything obvious.

 

Will take a look at this again tomorrow and see how I get on.

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pacman -Ss

will list all packages in the repositories. with descriptions

pacman -Sl

will list all packages in the repositories

pacman -Ss searchtext

will search for that searchtext in all package names and descriptions.

 

I suggest you post your questions on the Arch forums, at bbs.archlinux.org as you are more likely to get a reply there and in a much much quicker fashion.

 

Before requesting help with things, it's advised you check the arch news, archlinux.org/news.php in case it is a new change that has come in,

and the wiki, wiki.archlinux.org as it has an amazing wealth of information and tutorials on how to do heaps of stuff.

 

There's a great cheatsheet on pacman there too,

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman

which you may find helpful :)

 

James

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I managed to find too :P

 

The only thing I had next was when I actually installed on my laptop, my machine uses the nvidia generic geforce4 cos it's a laptop and it can't use the nvidia drivers. And it couldn't find the module named "nv". And I couldn't find what package either. Been trying all day too.

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Why not

telinit 3 (or 1)

pacman -Sy nvidia

And then

nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf

and changing "nv" to "nvidia" ?

It works just fine for me, both on my desktop and my laptop.

Factly, the "nv" driver is a no-go for my shitty FX 5200 on my desktop, although I must admit that I've tried to use it under xorg 6.8.2 only- it "might" work under xorg 7.0, although I wouldn't bet on that...

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Unfortunately, my work laptop has a Geforce 420 Go. Which is pants, and not supported by any of the nvidia drivers. If I do install, I startx and then the machine sits with a nice black screen and completely locks up.

 

So, for my machine I have to use the nv, and never get any opengl support. Not that I care, it's only a 16MB card too. As I said, crap :P

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I tried both with Mandriva the 8178 and the 7173 which is the legacy one, and I also tried both in arch too. They effectively don't support this card, and I even went back through nvidia's archive too to try and find out.

 

But alas, nothing, so I just use nv, and besides, it's a work machine, so I only use it for office stuff ;)

 

In fact, the standard vesa probably works the same as well.

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I've had problems using nvidia lately in gentoo and nv doesn't work at all. It's only recently that I've had problems. For some reason it fails to load and I get an xorg error. Since I don't play games or anything I've switched to vesa and it works just fine.

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