lavaeolus Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 (edited) Ok, some of you might be bored by this, but lastly I often heard: Mandriva is not free, they try to lock you in the club, yadda, yadda... and so on (vomit) To set some urban legends straight: Mandriva is as free as it was before ! There is a free edition that has all the non-GPL-stuff removed, but is otherwise fully functional (maybe its good to have a broadband connection, since some parts have to be downloaded from the internet, but these are mainly somewhat exotic server apps) OpenOffice 2 is in contribs, it's a pre-version, but 1) it works very well 2) Fedora Core 4, Suse 10 and Ubuntu 5.10 ship pre-versions either Mandriva 2006: OOo 1.9-129 FC4: OOo 1.9-104 Suse 10: OOo 1.9-125 or 129 Ubuntu: OOo 1.9-125 or 129 3) this was the version available when Mandriva 2006 came out For the final OOo2 you don't need to join the club, just download it from OOo's site (it's rpm-based now, there is an install-guide within the package, which tells you how to do it, there is a rpm that creates the menu entries too) For Flash-player, Adobe-Reader and Java there are free replacements, if you don't know how to install them go to artee's site: http://www.mandrake.tips.4.free.fr/ he has put together some really usefull instructions on this If you want Flash-player, Adobe-Reader and Java go to macromedia, Adobe, Sun, they have rpms that are fairly easy to install for nvidia and ati-drivers, please don't blame mandriva, blame ati and nvidia for the somewhat difficult install and the closed-source nature of their drivers Freedom in the Open Source world means freedom of choice, not getting everything for nil Final Point: the mere existence of PCLinuxOS shows that Mandriva indeed is free (since PCLOS is based on Mandriva), I don' think Texstar would have taken Mandriva as base otherwise If you don't have broadband connection, there are CD-Vendors as well, where you can get the entire package on CDs, in Germany for example it's http://liniso.de/ Edited November 30, 2005 by lavaeolus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavaeolus Posted December 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 I promised artee to advert his site, I tend to keep my promisses :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gul Dukat Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 I promised artee to advert his site, I tend to keep my promisses :D <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I can tell. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aRTee Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Thanks for the free ad. Darn, I knew I should have put ads on my site... :D Small comment: the Free edition isn't entirely GPL, there are some other parts, for instance OOo is not GPL. However, it does not include any proprietary software, which is the next best thing to being completely GPL if you ask Free Software buffs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiver_Fluffi Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 for nvidia and ati-drivers, please don't blame mandriva, blame ati and nvidia for the somewhat difficult install and the closed-source nature of their drivers <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think you have kinda missed the point on that one. The open-source and ati drivers worked before, the issue was that Mandriva uses a development version of Xorg which they pulled from the CVS. If the used a stable version of Xorg, it is sensible to suggest that the nvidia and ati drivers would not be an issue. Ergo, blame Mandriva, they packaged a development xorg to keep intel happy (i'm sure there is a business arrangement between the two.....) And to be quite frank, installing ati and nvidia's closed source drivers is a doddle, just takes a little patience and about 5 mins of your time............ B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw1974 Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 It's weird, as I've put MDV 2006 on all my boxes now, and had no problems whatsoever with it. The only problems I do have are with some OpenGL screensavers, when running on........Intel Video cards!!!! :P My NVidia systems work perfectly well with all OpenGL screensavers (Euphoria). However, on my Intel Video based systems, the Euphoria screensaver only runs in the top third of the screen! Which part of Intel are they keeping happy? Not sure it's the video section :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiver_Fluffi Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 Which part of Intel are they keeping happy? Not sure it's the video section :P <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Something to do with new-ish graphics adapters...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandriva-user Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 (edited) Thanks for the free ad. Darn, I knew I should have put ads on my site...:D Small comment: the Free edition isn't entirely GPL, there are some other parts, for instance OOo is not GPL. However, it does not include any proprietary software, which is the next best thing to being completely GPL if you ask Free Software buffs... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I looked at that OOo web pages is very good one I like it put there is for linux look up at http://www.hahaha.com Edited December 10, 2005 by Mandriva-user Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artificial Intelligence Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Just add this line to ubuntu repo and you have OO2 final. # Open Office 2 final deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2 ./ :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiver_Fluffi Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Just add this line to ubuntu repo and you have OO2 final. # Open Office 2 final deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2 ./ :) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Aye, most of the major distro's have now packaged it and made available to end users. But, typical of Mandriva, if you want an "Official packaged OOo, you gotta be a club member. Somebody care to explain why the business model works, cos it's beyond me..... (Here AI, nice to see yer still around ;)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artificial Intelligence Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Thanks Fluffi :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalex20 Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 But, typical of Mandriva, if you want an "Official packaged OOo, you gotta be a club member. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, it's not so mandatory. Get Cooker source RPM, let your computer spend some two days compiling - and voila, you've got OO 2.0 final! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiver_Fluffi Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 But, typical of Mandriva, if you want an "Official packaged OOo, you gotta be a club member. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, it's not so mandatory. Get Cooker source RPM, let your computer spend some two days compiling - and voila, you've got OO 2.0 final! :-) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah but cooker is no good for a n00b! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalex20 Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Yeah but cooker is no good for a n00b! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Neither is recompiling software :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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