Mandriva 2006 ADSL problem... never ending story

MrMad · October 10, 2005

Hello everybody,

i just installed the Mandriva 2006 club DVD version.

The speed is great :-) - big big step forward.

But unfortunately the ADSL setup is somehow broken.

I've set up the network same like in 2005 LE:

(using drakx)

pppoAtm

my ISP VCi,VCP - 0.35, username etc.etc.

During boot I have only a message

 "Initializing ppp0 - connect(0.35) - resource temprorary unavaiable"

The same message i had in 2005 but without any impact to ADSL.

I've tried to

 pppd call ppp0

but it returned a message

 ppp connect (0.35) - success.

but ifconfig dosen't show the ppp0 at all !!!!

Why is so ?

Can somebody explain the difference between /etc/ppp/peers

and /etc/sysconfig/networking-scripts ?

How to eat it ?

How to find where the problem is ?

Regards

and please

:help: :wall:

Dustpuppy · October 10, 2005

Have you tried this?

let's-eat-gary's thread

MrMad · October 11, 2005

Hi !

Thanks for an answer.

No I didn't cause it's way round.

I would like to understand why it's not wotking as it worked in 2005 LE.

My concern now is why on 2005 I've got output:

PPPoATM plugin_init
PPPoATM setdevname - remove unwanted options
PPPoATM setdevname_pppoatm - SUCCESS:0.35
Using interface ppp0
Connect: ppp0 <--> 0.35
CHAP authentication succeeded
local  IP address 83.23.247.40
remote IP address 213.25.2.41
primary   DNS address 194.204.152.34
secondary DNS address 217.98.63.164

and it's working fine.

And in 2006 it's ending shortly:

PPPoATM plugin_init
PPPoATM setdevname - remove unwanted options
PPPoATM setdevname_pppoatm - SUCCESS:0.35
Connect (0.35) - Resource temprorary unavaiable

What's wrong ?

:furious3:

Edited October 11, 2005 by MrMad

MrMad · October 11, 2005

Hi !

The funny thing is once per 4-5 startup's

the

 pppd call ppp0

will suceed with the output:

PPPoATM plugin_init
PPPoATM setdevname - remove unwanted options
PPPoATM setdevname_pppoatm - SUCCESS:0.35
Using interface ppp0
Connect: ppp0 <--> 0.35
CHAP authentication succeeded
local  IP address 83.23.247.40
remote IP address 213.25.2.41
primary   DNS address 194.204.152.34
secondary DNS address 217.98.63.164

And altough connection ppp0 is visible in ifconfig

and also added to default route the dns's servers

are not used - resolving host names is impossible .....

Any ideas ? :help: :help: :help: :wall: :wall: :wall:

AussieJohn · October 12, 2005

Did you check in MCC -----> Network and Internet --------> Set up a new network interface (LAN, ISDN, ADSL, ... ---------> ADSL ???. In 2006 the default is LAN, whereas in 2005-LE it was ADSL.

Any way if your Speedtouch modem has a Lan connection on it, why not go the LAN path like most people are doing nowdays ???. It is so much simpler and quicker that it is simply just not woth the trouble using USB.

Cheers. John.

MrMad · October 13, 2005

Yes it was done by this way (more then once :-) )....

The problem is that this modem has ONLY the USB port - that is why to bother :-)

And as You can see I made some progress - but I would like to make it work as it worked before

in MDK 2005.

Besides - talking that "You should buy the new modem or new cpu or new MB" looks like

the MS policy not the open source friendly spirit.

Let's make it clear:

It's Mandriva fault - Mandriva should help to fix it !!!

(Or it should be mentioned before - our distro not support the ADSL modems or so.

I can't imagine what will do some poor guy who will spent hundred of euros to the box

edition just to find out ... ooops .. Next time he will buy MS .... If simple things dosen't

work how we can trust that these big ones will ?)

Regards

MrMad

Dustpuppy · October 13, 2005

It's Mandriva fault - Mandriva should help to fix it !!!

You do know that this board is nothing to do with the company Mandriva? It's a collection of autonomous individuals who help because they want to. And quite frankly at the moment you are not exactly making me want to help you.

Got a beef with Mandriva? Go yell at them, not us.

MrMad · October 13, 2005

I beg Your pardon,

1st - I didn't wanted to yell to any user of the MDK.

2nd - I didin't knew that this board is users only and not maintained by Mandriva

so again please take my aplogies - this is caused by missunderstanding.

Be sure that I'll go front to the Mandriva and will eat'eam up - i'm deeply dissapointed

probably as the many other users of MDK 2006.

However If I can suggest something - the nick names like Mandriva Guru or so are very suggestive

and one can read them with quite different meaning.

once again

I apologize - my behaviour wasn't correct

Best regards

MrMad

Dustpuppy · October 13, 2005

Cool B)

arctic · October 13, 2005

I beg Your pardon,

1st - I didn't wanted to yell to any user of the MDK.

2nd - I didin't knew that this board is users only and not maintained by Mandriva

so again please take my aplogies - this is caused by missunderstanding.

Be sure that I'll go front to the Mandriva and will eat'eam up - i'm deeply dissapointed

probably as the many other users of MDK 2006.

However If I can suggest something - the nick names like Mandriva Guru or so are very suggestive

and one can read them with quite different meaning.

once again

I apologize - my behaviour wasn't correct

Best regards

MrMad

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Oh.. no reason for feeling bad. Many users made the error and complained here about Mandriva although we don't have anything to do with them. So you are not the first one who fell into that "trap". ;)

For your problem with the USB-Modem... you can blame Mandriva or Alcatel or anyone else. Usually it is not always the fault of only one company but the result of mistakes done by several persons. In the Linux area, however, the problem is most of the time hardware producers that do not allow others to use the sourcecode in order to create a working driver for other operating systems. The result: I have seen lots of hardware that should work with a Mac but didn't, hardware that should work with Windows but didn't, hardware that should work with Linux but didn't and so on... so I try not to point fingers at anyone because it might be unfair. :)

MrMad · October 14, 2005

Understood ....

Ok - what I can do ? (In the mean time when Mandriva will investigate it ?).

Anly clues trials with pppd - where to find the full documentation why it's returning

this message ????

Anyone ?

:help:

arctic · October 14, 2005

I actually don't kow. I don't use speedtouch or any other "obscure modems" ( i am using router-modem combos :P), so I cannot give you any advice but to tell Mandriva about the problem and hope for a solution. Maybe the needed modules can be extracted from 2005 ( as you said it worked there) and recompiled for 2006... :unsure:

MrMad · October 17, 2005

Hi !

After many installs I also find out that reconfiguring the firewall

(shorewall) to use the ppp+ as inet inteface and also disabling the iptables

and turning on netplug demons helps .... but not every time Sad

Sometime - especially after first power on the net not become up ...

(usually the second one is ok altough the message "Resource not avaiable" stay as it was before)

Something is running too fast ? Maybe some delay is needed between modem_run

and pppd ?

How do You think ?

:help:

arctic · October 17, 2005

:unsure:

MrMad · October 20, 2005

SOLVED [/size]

Dear All,

finally I solved this problem by myself.

Here is the treat from syslog which help me figure out what is

going on:

firmware_helper[4979]: main: could not load firmware '/lib/hotplug/firmware/speedtch-1.bin.4.00' for '/class/firmware/2-1'

It's saying clearly that the firmware is missing.

Of course Mandriva supplied firmware ..... but for the modem_run bin for hotplug :-(

Therefore the udev can't find the proper firmware.

I followed informations from this site

Speedtouch firmware udev

Using the firmware exractor I put the necessary files:

speedtch-1.bin

speedtch-2.bin

in the /lib/hotplug/firmware/ directory and ....... Tadam !!! Working Perfectly.

So all the ADSL users having problems with SpeedTouch 330 - please do it in the way

mentioned above .... and see You in the net ....

:headbang: :banana:

PS. A few words regarding why for some users it seems to be working from time to time.

In my case the modem worked from boot to boot just because I have 2005 installed and

when I boot to the 2005 then reset then boot to 2006 everything was ok - modem somehow

remembered the firmware. But after power off and power on again and boot to 2006 ... zonk ...

Now it's a flawless victory.

Many thanks to the b3nt@ukonline.co.uk for comprehensive how to on his site :-)

:thanks:

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