Guest Gish05 Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 (edited) I am using Mandriva 10.2 and GNOME, here's a screen of what fonts look like: http://img267.echo.cx/img267/1916/screenshot39xd.png Look at the blue text to the right especially. It's like the anti-aliasing is TOO strong. Even if I turn it off, the fonts seem to have htis edgy, uneven artifact to them. How can I fix this problem? Thanks Edited May 19, 2005 by Gish05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 what I did is importing some fonts from my windowb partition: times new roman, arial, courier new, tahoma, verdana, lucida, helvetica, comics, ... (the main fonts) after that, I configured my favorites fonts in gnome-font-properties (in a terminal, just type gnome-font-properties) the result should be better (that's the case for me!). for your info, here's my preferences: gnome-font-properties Application font: Sans - 8 Desktop font: Sans - 8 Window title font: Sans - 8 - bold Terminal font: Courier 10 Pitch - 10 Font rendering: best shapes firefox Fonts for: Western Proportional: Serif Serif: Times new roman Sans-Serif: Verdana Monospace: Courier 10 Pitch I hope that can help you to resolve your prob' Theo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adriano1 Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 That's how I see that text too. Sorry, but some fonts will give you some artifacts, no matter what. Until we get more real high quality fonts, and the system for rendering them improves, we'll have to deal with it. I remember the time when antialiased fonts on Linux was an ordeal. Thank Bob those times have passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeee Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 You may want to check to see if you are using a feature called 'sub-pixel hinting.' This is basically a form of AA optimized for lcd screens. I'm using it on my laptop and it looks great, but if you're on a CRT it's not so great I hear (never seen it myself). I don't know where the setting is in GNOME, but in KDE it's in the antialiasing menu. May want to look for it or look it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniewicz Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 I see this problem in Konqueror as well. However, if I use Firefox, the fonts look great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gish05 Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 theo: THANKS, this helps a bit... That's how I see that text too. Sorry, but some fonts will give you some artifacts, no matter what. Until we get more real high quality fonts, and the system for rendering them improves, we'll have to deal with it. All of this open source development on various Linux distros and we still don't have font rendering as good as windows? Wow... Maybe it's because I'm using an ATI driver?? btw for some reason I can't get XMMS to install... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iphitus Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 I thought my fonts looked better than windows and similar to mac...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foot Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 All of this open source development on various Linux distros and we still don't have font rendering as good as windows? Wow... Hmm, I recently retried Windows (XP Pro with SP2) and one of the minor annoyances was the scraggy fonts on Windows. :unsure: Perhaps its just the way my computer is set up, but you'll have to look elsewhere for a stick to beat Mandrivalinux with! To answer the question, can you set GNOME to use hinting for certain font point sizes like in KDE? If you can, it may be worth having a play as it seems to make fonts more spindly, but clear.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iphitus Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Gotta enable cleartype in the Display Preferences dialog to get nice AA fonts. imho my current fonts are nicer. cleartype looks bad on lcds good on crts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniewicz Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 My recent install of 10.2 has given me very nice fonts in general. Cleaner than 10.1. However, when I use konqueror as a web browser, I continue to see the poor fonts mentioned by Gish05. When I use konqueror as a file manager, the fonts look great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gish05 Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Perhaps it's the graphics driver, then? I'm using an ATI Card - Radeon 9550 - so that may explain it. ATI drivers are pretty crappy when it comes to Linux, I hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 i guess it can be a mix of things. the monitor might be one reason for scrappy fonts, the font type and rendering type and the graphic card can all be sources for crappy fonts (and sometimes, certain graphic cards do not work well with certain monitors etc...). you will have to experiment a bit on your box in order to find the source of your bad looking font. i know, this ain't much help but i think it is almost impossible to give you perfect answers that work on every box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gish05 Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 I'm using a Samsung SyncMaster 710T, DVI... it can't be my monitor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coverup Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 (edited) I'm using a Samsung SyncMaster 710T, DVI... it can't be my monitor <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sometimes fonts do not look nice because the dpi resolution is distorted. This does not affect ttf fonts, but fonts like times and helvetica can get distorted because of that. These distortions are easy to pick up using xdpyinfo: screen #0: dimensions: 1400x1050 pixels (296x222 millimeters) resolution: 120x120 dots per inch This tells me that my laptop LCD uses 1400x1050 pixels resolution. The displaysize is 296x222 millimeters, and gives me exact 120dpi resolution and nice fonts. If the screen were set to a slightly different displaysize, I could have got e.g. 119x121 dpi resolution, and fonts would be distorted. To correct such distortion, add the line DisplaySize xxx yyy to the Monitor section of XF86Config-4/xorg.conf. xxx, yyy are sizes in mm. Guess and check is the best way to get those right. Edit: And yes, sub-pixel hinting is another thing to try. Edited June 2, 2005 by coverup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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